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WSJ Says Elon Musk Went Too Far, New Charges of Antisemitism, the Role of DEI

The Wall Street Journal comments on how a misleading tweet set off a new firestorm over antisemitism. Let’s also discuss a major role of DEI in this mess.

Did Elon Musk Go Too Far?

In a series of Tweets involving Elon Musk, a popular Twitter (X) writer @WallStreetSilv, and other writers I have never heard of, Elon Musk unleashed a firestorm of comments.

The Actual Truth

“Jewish communities have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them.”

Supposedly the Tweet that Started it All

According to the Wall Street Journal, that Tweet by Wall Street Silver is what set Elon Musk off. There are numerous stories on the WSJ, CNN, the Guardian, and elsewhere.

The Wall Street Journal tries to make a case Elon Musk Went Too Far.

That is a free link for those who wish to read the full text.

Elon Musk insists he isn’t an antisemite.

But this past week, the billionaire entrepreneur left many wondering. At the very least, a string of inflammatory tweets he sent Wednesday showed how gratuitous Musk can be and how easily tweets on his own social-media platform can be misleading and trigger him.

His tweets called an antisemitic post “the actual truth” and renewed his pointed criticisms against the Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish advocacy group that he has described as pushing a “woke mind virus” hurting free speech and, in turn, his business, Twitter-turned-X.

A close study of his tweets Wednesday helps show what prompted him to go nuclear against the ADL. His ugly detour began shortly after the lunch hour in California when Musk came across a tweet from the kind of user he might consider one of the so-called citizen journalists he has become obsessed with on the platform. 

“Fake corporate new media is making up stuff again,” began a post by an account called Wall Street Silver, run by Jim Lewis and Ivan Bayoukhi and followed by more than one million users, including Musk.

Wall Street Silver, which has its roots in a Reddit forum dealing with metals, included a screenshot of an MSNBC broadcast about the rise of hate speech at Twitter under Musk that cited data from the ADL. “Not exactly legitimate objective sources,” it concluded.

Musk responded. “They really should just drop the ‘A’ and go with Defamation League,” he wrote. “Way more accurate.”

In the roughly two hours that followed, the billionaire’s rhetoric grew hotter as he continued to name check the ADL. One could almost see anger building in real time as what Musk’s biographer has dubbed his Demon Mode exploded online for all to see.

At one point, Musk tweeted support for a random X user’s post espousing the same sort of vile conspiracy theory about Jews replacing whites that was spewed by a killer who shot up a Pittsburgh synagogue in 2018. That reply by Musk—“You have said the actual truth”—ignited the firestorm against him.

The blame (or honor, if this feud is what Musk wanted) goes to Musk. It’s hard to know at any time if there is a purpose in his mind for some of the actions and statements he makes.

I posted a free link to the Journal article itself so you can follow the complete analysis.

Here’s is the ADL’s Stated Mission. I do not follow the ADL and cannot comment on the charges other than say “show me the evidence”

How Our College Campuses Became Hotbeds of Antisemitism

In an article I totally endorse, please consider How Our College Campuses Became Hotbeds of Antisemitism

While most Americans grieve and reel in horror after the brutal massacre of Israelis, a shocking number of students and faculty on our college campuses are cheering on Hamas – while oppressing, alienating, and verbally assaulting Jewish students.

These are the fruits of DEI indoctrination on campus. The far left’s hateful bigotry is becoming clear for all to see, and it is stunning many who had no idea how bad it has become.

Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) have coordinated multiple protests across dozens of American university campuses. SJP’s national chapter called Hamas’ terror attack a “historic win” for the “Palestinian resistance.”

These students have the absolute right to speak freely. But the rest of us are free to judge them based on their words and deeds. These protests and other actions at our colleges show that anti-Semitism is a growing threat on campus. Many of our Jewish college students are alarmed.

University professors across the nation are coming under fire for hateful comments, appalling treatment of Jewish students, and a shocking show of support for terrorists. 

University Examples

  • Stanford professor was suspended for forcing Jewish students in two of his classes to stand in a corner while he called them “colonizers.” He also shrugged off the deaths of “only” 6 million Jews in the Holocaust and called Hamas terrorists “freedom fighters.” A rabbi who spoke to students said they were left traumatized and dehumanized.
  • Columbia professor called the Hamas massacre of Israeli and American citizens on October 7 “awesome” and a “stunning victory”.” Professor Joseph Massad faced calls for his resignation back in 2004 after accusations that he antagonized Jewish and Israeli students in the classroom. He faces them again today, as an online petition calling for his removal quickly amassed more than 30,000 signatures.
  • Yale professor, Zareena Grewal, stated on X: “Prayers for Palestinians. Israel is a murderous, genocidal settler state and Palestinians have every right to resist through armed struggle.” She reacted to the massacre by tweeting, “It’s been such an extraordinary day!” Her X bio describes herself as a “radical Muslim.” Yale defended her right to free speech but a petition calling on the university to fire her collected more than 25,000 signatures in one day. 
  • Students for Justice in Palestine at the University of Virginia issued a statement calling the Hamas massacre “a step towards a free Palestine.” And a professor there is now under investigation by the state’s attorney general for offering students extra credit to attend a SJP event to “stand in solidarity with Palestinians resisting occupation.”  
  • An Albany Law School professor tweeted, “Long live the Palestinian resistance & people of Gaza” who are “tearing down the walls of colonialism & apartheid.” She added, “As the Biden admin builds more walls at US borders, the people of the world are rising up & tearing walls down. The Palestinians are a beacon for us all.”  
  • New York University Student Bar Association President Ryna Workman wrote in the student newspaper, “Israel bears full responsibility for this tremendous loss of life”and refused to condemn Hamas. In a story that made national headlines but garnered little sympathy, Workman lost a job offer from a prestigious law firm because of her comments.   
  • Pro-Palestinian protestors and Antifa members at the University of Washington lobbed homophobic slurs at a reporter while chanting ‘From the River to the Sea’ and intifada,’ well-known code words for the destruction of Israel and a call to massacre of Jews.
  • ‘Intifada’ chants were common at UCLA’s Pro-Palestine protest, where pro-Hamas students wore masks to conceal their identities. The chants calling for the murder of the Jewish people were also heard on campus at the University of Minnesota
  • A professor at the University of North Carolina raised an Israeli flag to counter a pro-Palestinian protest and was pushed aside. 
  • At Columbia University, an Israeli student was assaulted by a suspect who tore down photos of Israeli hostages the victim had posted. The suspect hit the victim with a stick, breaking his finger and lacerating the victim. 
  • 30 student organizations at Harvard University signed a letter by the university’s Undergraduate Palestine Solidarity Committee and Harvard Graduate Students for Palestine that claims they “hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all unfolding violence.” 

Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI)

Under guise of DEI, those examples are not only what universities allow, it is what the universities preach, expect and demand.

Anyone who disagrees is shouted out if not much worse as the above articles show.

It’s not just about Israel. It’s about climate, gender change, and Black Lives Matter, slave reparations and an entire slew of Left-wing idiocy.

A Two-State Solution

As I have said before, I have always favored a two-state solution. A one-state solution implies genocide and slaughter of the other.

There is legitimate debate on what Israel’s response should be, but there is no legitimacy to Hamas.

The killing of all Jews, just because they are Jewish, is the stated goal of Hamas. Unfortunately, indoctrination of kids at universities to support for Hamas is underway.

The Irony of DEI

The firestorm unleashed by Musk is not be a bad thing in and of itself as long as one side cannot force their views on everyone else.

Unfortunately, there is no diversity or equity at universities.

Instead there is forced indoctrination on a range of ideas including climate change, gender, guilt, and reparations.

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AussiePete56
AussiePete56
2 years ago

As an aside… the guy behind “Wall Street Silver” is accused of serious fraud, and is apparently facing several court cases. Allegedly was never a Merrill Lynch trader as claimed….

https://twitter.com/ThHappyHawaiian/status/1620621828149612548

Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
2 years ago

Why does no one discuss the three state solution?
A state for the Jews.
A state for the Palestinians.
And tucked away in a corner somewhere, guarded behind very high walls like Gaza, a state with all the Zionists.

Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
2 years ago

DEI.
Invariably spelled incorrectly and this really irritates me.
It should be DIE.
As in die, die, die you scumbags.

Columbo
Columbo
2 years ago

Time ran an interesting article on a proposed peace plan between Israel-Gaza. It hailed the current state of war as an opportunity for both sides. I can’t link it though. It was quite detailed at the bottom of the article.
It blamed both sides leadership and called for moderates on both sides to come forth. It would allow the people (Israelis and Palestinians to vote on normalizing relations. With support from world nations, it would create a 50 year demilitarized zone in Gaza. A deal would be hammered out with the borders set at what it was on June 4th, 1967. Land swaps would be negotiated.
That’s the gist of it and I am not sure how similar it is to the 2 State plan.

Moe
Moe
2 years ago

“The killing of all Jews, just because they are Jewish, is the stated goal of Hamas.”

This is absolutely false Mish. They want to end the Jewish state, but they do not want to kill all Jews just because they are Jewish. Don’t take my word for it, check out their charter for yourself.

On the other hand, the Zionists did ethnically cleanse most of Palestine. 80% of Gazans are refugees or descended from refugees expelled by the Israelis.

Bobba Fett
Bobba Fett
2 years ago

We all know what antisemitism used to mean fifty years ago, and 99% of the populace was and still is against that idea.

Unfortunately, the effectiveness of calling someone antisemitic got weaponized. It became an instant way to silence political opponents and get them canceled. It now means “person who has differing political opinions from the establishment”. It no longer means what it used to.

How many times are we supposed to hear XYZ “is literally the next Hitler!!” without thinking of the boy who cried wolf?

The extreme left wingers of NYC are at it again. Yet another political opponent is supposedly antisemitic. Seriously? You are yelling wolf yet again?

How many times are we going to hear Jessie Smollet scream racism? Al Sharpton accusing the NY police of racism? BLM is in a supposedly peaceful protest, and anyone who asks why the courthouse and police station are burning in the background is accused of racism? Seriously? You are yelling wolf yet again?

When an actual wolf shows up, no one is going to listen because the term has been used as a political weapon way too often. There are still actual cases of antisemitism or racism, but they are increasingly rare.

Musk has different political views than the media outlets in NYC. We knew that already. Adults should be able to disagree without calling their opponent antisemitic and racist and the next Hitler.

If you disagree with Musk’s political views, then so state. Maybe explain why you disagree? But this click bait, crying wolf is stupid and it won’t save the WSJ from extinction.

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Alex
Alex
2 years ago
Reply to  Bobba Fett

And the Jussie Smollet Award goes to…

Kevin D
Kevin D
2 years ago

Two communities have battled back and forth over the centuries for the same plot of land. How can one colonize land inhabited and ruled by it for centuries until forcibly removed by Rome in 70 ad? Both groups have historical claim.

Flaw of two state solution is the fact it would not be accepted by other side. Each side ultimately prefers to live free of the other. If you tripled the territory of Gaza do you believe the new expanded country would lay down arms and become Switzerland of the Middle East?

A Rome/Carthage like clash of civilizations usually ends only when one side ceases to exist.

Seoul Man
Seoul Man
2 years ago
Reply to  Kevin D

If Americans are going to say Jews moving from Germany and Brooklyn have a right to move to the Middle East to displace the Palestinians, Americans should be perfectly okay with people of indigenous American blood migrating around the Americas as they please, squatting wherever they see fit. You never see Jewish families giving up their houses in the Hamptons to the indigenous people or any other white people in the USA and Canada doing that. You’re only supposed to lose your home when the indigenous person is a white ” indigenous Middle Easterner” with blonde hair and blue eyes.

Alex
Alex
2 years ago
Reply to  Kevin D

Sorry, it’s only been about 1 century. It started after WW1 with the British Administration which gave tremendous prefers to the immigrating Jews and their appointment to political offices and good jobs. In return for their help the Zionist bombed the King David Hotel which housed the Britsh Administration. For our help we got the USS Liberty, Israeli spies which took US military secrets and then sold them to Russia and China, and of course the mossad failto mention a terrorist attack was going to happen o. 9-11. With friends like these….

MelvinRich
MelvinRich
2 years ago
Reply to  Alex

Don’t forget the British nurses on a humanitarian mission at the King David hotel. Given their MO and history we should not support such a bunch as Israel.

Alex
Alex
2 years ago

I find it hard to believe the examples given at the universities. Probably a lot of heresay stories picked up by the press to push the antisemitism meme which is then used to suppress criticism of Israel’s war crimes. A typical crybully tactic.

Also as is abundantly clear from the lopsided coverage in the press and by the ridiculous statements of politicians, the Israel Lobby is very powerful and controls US foriegn policy. Musk may have bitten off more than he can chew. Many Jewish billionaire are sure to have their knives out for him.

By now, even Mish should know that much of the carnage that happened Oct. 7th can be laid at the feet of the IDF. There were no butchered babies and no raped woman. These exaggerations were made to justify the heavy handed punishment the IDF is now meting out. It also lays the causalites caused by the IDF on Hamas.

While everyone is constantly pointing Oct7 and exclaiming how awful it was, Israel is committing mass murder of innocent civilians everyday. But this is just par for the course. It is the reason Hamas exists. It is the reason Hamas struck back. Many high officials in the IDF and in the Israel government have talked openly about nuking and genociding the Palestinians. Yet the total focus is on Hamas and how it doesn’t recognize Israel’s right to exist. Well given that this incidence caused Israel to say such things, how can one not expect Hamas to say such things when the crimes are much larger and perpetual.

AussiePete56
AussiePete56
2 years ago
Reply to  Alex

You are seriously saying that there were no raped women or murdered children….?

wow

This “moral equivalency” argument of Hamas’ war crimes on the one hand and the unintended but unavoidable collateral deaths of Palestinian civilians due to Hamas’ tactics of hiding behind them is clearly bogus.

The elected government of Gaza declared war on Israel who reluctantly took up the challenge forced upon them while minimising civilian casualties as much as possible.

Ed@yahoo.com
Ed@yahoo.com
2 years ago

The hate only begets more hate. The Jewish state is what it is, ” A forced colonial outpost by the colonialist/imperialist of previous centuries that still wield world power and are responsible for human suffering from their control and dominance since their first King.

Truth
Truth
2 years ago

“… is the stated goal of Hamas.”

It’s the stated goal and foundational tenet of a certain belief system to destroy or subjugate *ALL* non-adherents, not just Jews.

Brian d Richards
Brian d Richards
2 years ago

I think we are all being manipulated with clever propaganda from both sides. Where the truth is may be unfathomable.

Bobba Fett
Bobba Fett
2 years ago

Two countries / land divisions / whatever, halfway around the world are at war, at least according to western media outlets.

If this side wins… the media will be pleased. If that side wins, the media will be upset.

Weapons manufacturers will make a fortune either way. Politicians will collect bribes from oligarchs supporting both sides.

The Jewish family down the street from me will see higher taxes. The Leboneese family down the street will see higher taxes. The single black mother running the town coffee and donut shop will go out of business because she cannot afford higher energy costs or higher taxes, much less both. Potholes in my roads are not going to be fixed no matter who supposedly wins, in the news media or on the ground halfway around the world. US borders will not be secure, no matter who supposedly wins.

Some corrupt oligarchs have bought politicians and news organizations and are whipping everyone into a frenzy for profit.

The truth is: crap happening halfway around the world is none of our business.

PreCambrian
PreCambrian
2 years ago

What makes me so discouraged about the entire situation is that if I lived in Israel for the last twenty years I probably would react just the way that they did to the Hamas massacre of their civilians but if I lived in Gaza for the last twenty years I probably sympathize or support Hamas.

Arafat rejected (or at least didn’t accept) what Israel’s leader Barak was willing to offer from the Camp David meetings in 2000. It seemed like a reasonably good offer at the time to me and I doubt that we will ever be so close to an agreement in my lifetime.

Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago

Can’t wait to see if Javier Milei won or not.

TomS
TomS
2 years ago

The “Palestinians” are nothing more than Arabs who were given their name 1900 years ago when the Philistines conquered the region.

The British Mandate for Palestine originally consisted of present-day Israel, Gaza, Judea and Samaria, and Jordan. That later country is really key to the “Palestinian” question here, since there’s never been an official Palestinian named country. Why? They already have a country called Jordan which made up 80% historic Judea, Samaria, Palestine.

Israel, about the size of New Jersey, made up most of the other 20%. Israel captured the Sinai Peninsula from Egypt, the West Bank from Jordan, the Golan Heights from Syria, & Gaza during the Six Day war. Eveyone knows the history, but NOBODY wants to admit that Jordan literally is where the Palestinians should be move after Israel razes Gaza. Israel’s plan is to make Gaza inhospitable. More power to them, since Hamas leadership says they’ll do 10/7 again & again.

THERE WILL NEVER BE A 2-STATE SOLUTION. The Arabs don’t want that. They want it all which includes the destruction on Israel which is where Iran comes in. Even Saudi Arabia is definitely moving away from alignment with America.

The bad FJB has done is incalculable.

george carleton
george carleton
2 years ago
Reply to  TomS

wow – an upfront articulation of ethnic cleansing, and apartheid. Credit for the courage, but it does mean that you are a racist person endorsing ethnic cleansing of people you believe have no ‘right’ to live on their small plot of land. Imagine we try that out elsewhere in the world?

Bill Meyer
Bill Meyer
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

And for that reason, no one wants ‘em in their country and rightly so!

Seoul Man
Seoul Man
2 years ago
Reply to  Bill Meyer

They’ll be relocating to the USA, Canada, and Western Europe. It’s what the Israelis want and it’s what the West wants.

Alex
Alex
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Funny, Israel is admitting they killed many at the Rave festival. Can’t believe you’re still falling for the whole torture stuff. More like IDF tank shells mangled and burned bodies and they pass it off as torture.

https://new.thecradle.co/articles/israel-admits-it-killed-its-own-at-nova-music-festival

dunning kruger
dunning kruger
2 years ago
Reply to  Alex

Mish, your views on a situation squeezed to the essence are delivered free to me and I thank you for that.

But I am rather disappointed in your Gaza/Israel position and your almost comical acceptance of the 7 Oct narrative. Based on your critical thinking talents, I would expect more even if it meant tin foil. Because what is tin today seems to be fact the next.

Even the ultimate so called anti-semite Owen Benjamin had these sage words soon after – “Something happened but what exactly ? To be seen ..”

I mean “Hummus escaped the prison for 6 hours and then ran back to get bombed after burning babies and raping woman” Really? “Mad max style gliders with Uzis” Seriously?

Did “bullshyt” not cross your mind ?

And now the dam is cracking – even the DailyMail is running with with Apache Hellfire missiles and Two week warnings from the low ranking IDF types which is prolly why the Israelis are actually in negotiations right now. Think of it like V1 on the runway, …. takeoff abandoned at high speed (just like the WEF and COVI. But dont think they wont try again.)

The Ben Grunion Canal, Offshore Oil and Gas , Bibi’s personal need to cover over his domestic blunders and the Zionist wish for a Jew owned condos on the shoreline right up to the Egypt Border explain a lot. Certainly more than this trope about “religion”

To me it was bloody obvious from day one.

Joss
Joss
2 years ago

This is all such Rubbish and a complete waste of time …….

Last edited 2 years ago by Joss
stuart fancy
stuart fancy
2 years ago

Hamas are no longer calling for extermination of Jews, That was when they were much smaller. You should view Hamas as you would the Irish Republican Army, They ended up in a power sharing agreement in the Northern Ireland Assembly

Alex
Alex
2 years ago
Reply to  stuart fancy

Funny, I gave you a thumbs up but it increment thumbs down.

Christoball
Christoball
2 years ago
Reply to  Alex

It happens to the best of us.

interested
interested
2 years ago

“The killing of all Jews, just because they are Jewish, is the stated goal of Hamas”

People keep ‘ saying ‘ this but I have searched and not seen it. If you have a respectable source proof I would appreciate reading and learning more.

thank you

Alex
Alex
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Martin Luther was onto something.

interested
interested
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

“The killing of all Jews, just because they are Jewish, is the stated goal of Hamas”

I believe you will find that you are Not correct – and that The Hamas covenant reports

On the destruction of Israel:
“Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.” (Preamble)

“Palestine is an Islamic land… Since this is the case, the Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem wherever he may be.” (Article 13)

I have never read that Hamas says killing of all Jews, just because they are Jewish – but that they say obliterate Israel – which you may interpret as killing of all Jews in Israel – but I have never read killing of all Jews elsewhere.

.

interested
interested
2 years ago
Reply to  interested

If I am not correct I am the first to want to know
so please do correct with source if I am not correct

correction not only desired but appreciated

AussiePete56
AussiePete56
2 years ago
Reply to  interested

Statement by Sheikh Dr. Ahmad Bahar – co-founder of Hamas

“Be certain that America is on its way to utter destruction, America is wallowing [in blood] today in Iraq and Afghanistan, America is defeated and Israel is defeated, and was defeated in Lebanon and Palestine… Make us victorious over the community of infidels… Allah, take the Jews and their allies, Allah, take the Americans and their allies… Allah, annihilate them completely and do not leave anyone of them.”

Bobba Fett
Bobba Fett
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Mish, the founders of wikipedia no longer consider it trust worthy. They recommend double checking everything one reads there. A small clique has full editor control, and won’t allow the public to correct errors or (more importantly) to present “the other side” of any contentious issue.

I didn’t click on your link, and I won’t go “check out” a discredited site. Perhaps that particular wikipedia article is correct, perhaps not — but I would have to verify its claims somewhere else no matter what. Why not just go to a more credible site, if one exists?

We can’t, because freedom of speech only applies to a select few. Everyone else was already censored. Perhaps Hamas is as bad as you claim? If so, why won’t the censorship groups allow us to decide for ourselves?

I suspect that the Hamas leadership when it was formed decades ago is long dead, or is as mentally challenged as the octogenarian currently shuffling around the White House.

Does the current Hamas spokesman speak for all Hamas? Probably not. Does he speak for all Palestinians? Certainly not.

I am tired of being manipulated into yet another stupid war because that is what is most profitable for corrupt oligarchs and their politicians.

Bobba Fett
Bobba Fett
2 years ago
Reply to  Bobba Fett

… I am not allowed to edit my own comment, so I’ll put it here:

Does the current Hamas spokesman speak for all Hamas? Probably not. Does he speak for all Palestinians? Probably not. Does wikipedia speak for anyone outside their little clique? Definitely not. Does the founding charter from 1967 (if correctly transcribed) speak for anyone fighting today?

Why does any of this obligate people halfway around the world to take sides and stick our noses into other people’s business?

I am tired of being manipulated into yet another stupid war because that is what is most profitable for corrupt oligarchs and their politicians.

Sunny
Sunny
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

The cold fact is 750,000 Palestinians (who were living for generations and for several decades) were forced out with violence in 1948 -Nakba (the Catastrophe) by Zionists with the complicit of collective West especially UK& USA. Israelis,as of NOW are occupied colonizers NOT unlike European Colonizers of Asia, ME and Africa in16th,17th and 18th centuries.

As UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres aptly observed that OCT 7 didn’t happen in a ‘vacuum’ but result of a long ignored (by Israel & West) unjustified occupation of Palestine by Zionists/Jews, Trying to analyze one single event without the context of bitter history of long struggle is disingenuous.

vboring
vboring
2 years ago

Hamas attempts to make every one of their attacks a war crime.

The IDF attempts to minimize the potential of war crimes.

Hopefully the people in Gaza find a way through this conflict. Rising up to overthrow Hamas is their fastest path to normalcy. They have no possibility of a future worth living under Hamas.

Alex
Alex
2 years ago
Reply to  vboring

Good normie! Repeat what is told on the boobtube.

Seoul Man
Seoul Man
2 years ago
Reply to  vboring

The Gazans are your new neighbors, they just haven’t moved in yet. By this time next year, hundreds of thousands of them will be living in the USA in Section 8 housing, using food stamps, receiving free healthcare, receiving free education (and 40% of Gazans are kids), receiving free smartphones and other freebies.

And the same Americans who cheered the ethnic cleansing of Gaza will be the one howling the loudest in rage at having to pay for refugees on welfare.

nooneaskedme
nooneaskedme
2 years ago

I think it’s disgusting to support Hamas and valid to support Palestinians in their quest for a real nation free of Israeli control. I think it’s disgusting to target Jews because they are Jews and valid to criticize Israel’s largely indiscriminate destruction of Gaza, the nearly carefree extinguishment of tens of thousands of innocents and the disproportionate influence wielded by AIPAC. I think it’s right to criticize DEI and to criticize the identity politics used by many (certainly not all) Jews I know. (Identity politics here defined as self-referential victimhood brandishment and fetishization of “our tribe” to the detriment of a universalist vision of mankind.)

Bill Meyer
Bill Meyer
2 years ago
Reply to  nooneaskedme

A real challenge is the Arabs don’t want them…they know what they’d be in for, none of it good.

Seoul Man
Seoul Man
2 years ago
Reply to  nooneaskedme

I agree it’s disgusting to support Hamas, which is why the USA & Israel should be ashamed of doing exactly that in the war in Syria. At least the Iranians and Russians had the decency to fight against Hamas, ISIS, Al Qaeda and other Israel & US-backed militias.

Alex
Alex
2 years ago
Reply to  Seoul Man

Without armed resistance what will happen to the Palestinians? Why is the world now talking about the need for a Palestinian State? Why do you think most Palestinians support Hamas? Israel has left them no other choice.

AussiePete56
AussiePete56
2 years ago
Reply to  Alex

If Hamas laid down their arms there would follow a Palestinian state.

If Israel laid down their arms they would be annihilated

Rogerroger
Rogerroger
2 years ago

Cant we all just get along.

TomS
TomS
2 years ago
Reply to  Rogerroger

Ask Hamas that question, but you already know the answer.

Alex
Alex
2 years ago
Reply to  Rogerroger

Ask the Zionist that, but, you already know the answer.

Bill Meyer
Bill Meyer
2 years ago

Okay, so it’s anti-Semitic to notice anything that some Semites and their socialist secular government might be doing that bothers you IF noticing the policies or actions makes Semites OR the U.S. Congress critters plugged into AIPAC uncomfortable? Just trying to understand the rules of the road here. /sarc

Alex
Alex
2 years ago
Reply to  Bill Meyer

The rules are quite simple.

Jewish interests and Jewish power can’t be questioned. That is antisemitic.
Anything Israel does is beyond criticism. Criticism of Israel is antisemtic.
Jews are always the innocent victim. To say otherwise is antisemtic.
Jews are wonderful and special. They are God’s chosen and should be yours too.

Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago

I loved the Starship launch yesterday. It was beautiful to see and impressive as Hell. The next one will be in about 30 days.

Jackula
Jackula
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78

I’m with you, it was an incredible testament to American engineering and ingenuity. I shouldn’t be so thin skinned but this is something that we should be celebrating in the media instead of whining about getting feelings hurt over some of Elon’s controversial communications dominating the media.

Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Reply to  Jackula

There are many bright points of light but good things don’t generate clicks in modern mainstream media. Thank God we now have many specialized sites for real news.

Alex
Alex
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78

If only Johnathan Greenblatt was on board. It would have been so much better.

Maximus Minimus
Maximus Minimus
2 years ago

It takes mojo (and a few hundred billions) to state the obvious in America.
You don’t have to side with “ragheads”, or any of their religious and military offshoots, to point out the MSM monoculture.
Kudos to Elon to make that distinction.
PS: I wish Elon made a comment about the FED’s policies, which would make him into a true popular icon.

Last edited 2 years ago by Maximus Minimus
Mike
Mike
2 years ago

Based off many comments I’ve seen, antisemitism has become a meaningless phrase. Elon Musk is right that many jewish groups are specifically the ones pushing the anti-White narrative on college campuses. It was only once it came back and bit them in the butt did they actually start playing the victim card again. If jews would stop pushing identity politics around the world through their stranglehold on banking, government, media, and finance – then I’m sure people would no longer have any negative feelings towards them. The number one cause of “antisemitism” is jewish behavior, but of course that does not apply to EVERY jew.

Micheal Engel
Micheal Engel
2 years ago

Ilan was caught in the crossfire between pro Hamas and pro Israel.
If Ilan mom is Jewish, he is Jewish.

Micheal Engel
Micheal Engel
2 years ago

Is Jack Smith Jewish

JDaveF
JDaveF
2 years ago

I didn’t know Mish was anti free speech. Something to keep in mind.

Joe Poncakia
Joe Poncakia
2 years ago
Reply to  JDaveF

Either put a /sarc at the end of your comment or learn to read.

Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago

Elon Musk was right. Many Jewish groups supported Left-wing groups and the Democrat Party because they believed that the Democrats supported minorities and they are a minority too. They didn’t perceive that Jews had in the minds of many had passed into the White category and therefore were fair game to be seen as people to be derided and hated. This happened even though they had supported these groups for decades and when Hamas massacred the Israelis, and many universities and colleges came down on the side of the terrorists either by conviction or cowardice they saw that their efforts had created a monster. Of course they weren’t alone. Most of the blame lies with the Democrats for making it happen and for the Republicans for letting it happen. Now we have to set things right again.

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78

I get the feeling that the average middle aged American has no idea what’s taught at today’s colleges. All they remember are their years in college, most of which happened 20 or 30 years ago when things were vastly different.

BLM and the 1619 project right after George Floyd was the first eye opening experience. Then came the rise of of the Alphabet mafia (LGBTQ(P) the silent P is for Pedo) and multiple gendered kids and pushing that education at the public school level. Now it’s the support for Hamas because Israel, like White America is seen is an evil colonizer and any resistance to that is celebrated (all circles back to BLM).

I said a couple weeks ago that Israel support was going to dry up fast among the young and that in less than 20 years is likely to be entirely gone.

Neil
Neil
2 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

I agree with pretty much any opinion of the political right.
But when it comes to Israel, must disagree.
The zionist state is clearly the last stand of western imperialism. What they have done/ are doing to the indigenous people there is an atrocity.

AussiePete56
AussiePete56
2 years ago
Reply to  Neil

The Jews are the indigenous people, pre-dating the “Palestinians” by centuries

Sunny
Sunny
2 years ago
Reply to  AussiePete56

During 1918, the Jews/Zionists were 3-8% in Palestine. By 1948 they were around 30% and the Palestine Arabs living there for generations. But the 30% drive out the 70% with the complicit and the help of collective West in the UN especially UK (divide and rule) and the imperialist USA. Israel was born!

AussiePete56
AussiePete56
2 years ago
Reply to  Sunny

What the, “From the River to the Sea” people want is the equivalent of all non-Aboriginal Australians abandoning Australia because the English arrivals in 1788 didn’t ask permission from those who were already there.

Israel has turned the desert into a garden and an economic powerhouse and all stakeholders, including the peaceful 30% Arab citizens benefit. The hyper-violent Palestinians are their own worst enemy

Jack
Jack
2 years ago
Reply to  AussiePete56

The Ancient Britons own all the land in England, Scotland and Wales. Everyone living there today needs to move out. The land was taken from them illegally by the Romans, Anglo-Saxons, and Normans.

Sunny
Sunny
2 years ago
Reply to  Neil

For the American right and MIC, Israel is just a ‘large military base’ as a foothold for to reign on several ME Countries with O-I-L! Fits well with there aim of being a global hegemonic force. As Joe Biden has said, if Israel was NOT there, America had to invent it for it’s own interest.

Alex
Alex
2 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

I agree with Neil. Israel is an albatross around America’s neck. It’s hung there by crooked politicians who take money from the Israeli Lobby and doesn’t serve any American interest. Without Hamas the Palestinians would “continue to live in there open air gulag. I use the term gulag in honor of the Jewish humanitarian Genrikh Yagoda. He was head of the NKVD (Soviet secret police) and orchistrated show trials, and headed the prison system in the USSR.

AussiePete56
AussiePete56
2 years ago
Reply to  Alex

Why doesn’t Hamas attack Egypt…?

They control the “gulag’s” southern border….

Alex
Alex
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78

Much of this can be traced back to the Frankfurt school and critical theory. This was led by Jewish intellectuals like Herbert Macuse and Theodor Adorno and was the progenitor of the rampant woke BS.

https://youtu.be/T5zkjRlfw70?si=D-eIRRLhUH2FW6Yk

Seoul Man
Seoul Man
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78

So true. Moreover, the USA & Israel armed, funded, and sponsored Hamas as one of its Sunni militia attack dogs in their attempt to overthrow the Syrian government. Iran fought against Hamas in Syria. Americans and Israelis cheered when Hamas and other Islamic militias brutalized Syrian civilians and soldiers but burst into tears when they did the same to Israeli soldiers and civilians.

JamesW
JamesW
2 years ago

Elon Musk can’t make everyone happy, so no matter what, he loses….it is funny watching the zionists cry so hard though….

Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Reply to  JamesW

He doesn’t care about making people happy and that is his strength. As long as he can continue to build incredible things he will do fine.

Seoul Man
Seoul Man
2 years ago

Musk is right about this. Jewish organizations sponsor a lot of the anti-white and anti-Asian racism but then don’t want to face the same BS.

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