Looking Like a Tory Blowout and Complete Collapse of Labour

Electoral Calculus has a nice MP projection calculator in which you can plug in estimates.

I used their advanced calculator, using regional numbers from table 38 on page 42 of the most recent ComRes Poll.

Starting Point Values

Electoral Calculus made the projections based off the numbers that I entered which in turn were from ComRes.

UKIP was my rounding bucket. I suggest Electoral Calculus should change the UKIP bucket to “Other”.

Any lines across that did not add up horizontally to 100, I tossed into UKIP except for the first line. If I rounded the first line up, putting 5% in UKIP, I got a majority of 92.

Admittedly this is just one poll. But it pretty much looks like all the rest.

I used ComRes because it provided the necessary regional breakouts.

Electoral Calculus Own Current Projection

Martin Baxter at Electoral Calculus comes up with a majority of 72 based on polls polls from November 12 through November 19.

I came up with 88 using ComRes alone.

Polls November 12 Through November 19

A weighted sample is likely more accurate than the single latest poll. But please note that BMG is the last single-digit holdout.

Leads by Pollster – Most Recent Poll

  1. ComRes: 11
  2. YouGov 12
  3. Ipsos/Mori: 16
  4. ICM: 10
  5. Kantar: 18
  6. Survation 14
  7. DataPoll: 15
  8. Opinium: 16
  9. Panelbase: 13
  10. BMG: 8

Average Since November 11 (14 Polls)

  1. Tory: 42.43
  2. Labour: 29.43
  3. Liberal Democrat: 14.57

The spread of the averages is 13 percentage points (42.43 – 29.43).

Note that the current ComRes spread is only 11 percentage points.

17% of 2017 Labour Voters Considering Backing the Tories

The Telegraph has some interesting stats regarding the ComRes Poll.

The Savanta ComRes’ research found that the Conservative Party is current polling at 42 per cent of the vote, the highest lead the polling company has registered since before the last election.

Of those who cast their ballot for Jeremy Corbyn in 2017, 17 per cent would now think about supporting the Tories.

That is three times the amount of Tory voters who would think about switching allegiances to Labour, with just five per cent saying they’d vote for Mr Corbyn.

The Tories have the most consistent support among their base, with 94 per cent of their voters from 2017 thinking about backing them again this year.

Referendum on Corbyn

Poll after poll suggests the same thing: Fear of Corbyn Outweighs Fear of Brexit.

Brexit is fading as an issue, especially among women.

Who Would Make the Best Prime Minister

A whopping 51.9% of men and 42.0% of women believe johnson would make the best Prime Minister!

Also note that Jo Swinson tops Jeremy Corbyn among women and age groups 55-64 and 65-74.

Not even 18-24 year-olds prefer Corbyn. The only demographic in which Corbyn leads is 25-34 year-olds.

Johnson Unite the Tories

Without a Doubt, Boris Johnson United the Tory Party

Election in Three Weeks

No matter how one slices or dices the polls, unless they change dramatically and suddenly, Corbyn is going to lead Labour into the abyss.

Addendum – Seat Change Projections

Mike “Mish” Shedlock

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Scooot
Scooot
6 years ago

Jeremy Corbyn now says he’s going to stay neutral In his referendum, neither a leaver or a remainer. Does that make him a releaver.

Bagger
Bagger
6 years ago
Reply to  Scooot

Reminds me of the Monkees – “I’m a releaver”.

Mish
Mish
6 years ago

Hmmm. Where was it we heard those things?

Four days ago. Fear of Corbyn Outweighs Fear of Brexit.

Brexit is fading as an issue, especially among women. Only 25% of women have Brexit as their number one issue.

Check out the undecideds! Only 10% of men are undecided vs a whopping 23.5% of women.

My key idea to answer my friend’s question is that the election has morphed into a referendum on Corbyn and away from a referendum on Brexit.

Bastiat
Bastiat
6 years ago
Mish
Mish
6 years ago
Reply to  Bastiat

Hmmm – Who was it that reported things like these?

“Women and younger voters seem to be staying with us, and older men are more angry.”

“It’s much more about Corbyn than Brexit,” they said. “I have people who are down as Labour supporters saying they won’t come out for me because of him.”

Where was that?
I am at a loss

Rupert DeBare
Rupert DeBare
6 years ago

There’s a revealing graph of how the Tories’ lead evaporated in 2017, straight after they published their disastrous manifesto.

itv.com/news/2019-11-22/three-weeks-from-election-day-how-much-could-the-polls-change

Mish
Mish
6 years ago
Reply to  Rupert DeBare

It’s the Labour manifesto that will prove to be a disaster

Rupert DeBare
Rupert DeBare
6 years ago
Reply to  Mish

At least, this time the Tories will not shoot themselves in the foot with a programme designed to alienate their own core electorate.

Scooot
Scooot
6 years ago

A big push by Labour with the launch of their manifesto. The polls taken from today will be telling.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000bx5j

Pater_Tenebrarum
Pater_Tenebrarum
6 years ago

It’s funny that even “don’t know” is considered to be a better prime minister than Corbyn… 🙂

Pater_Tenebrarum
Pater_Tenebrarum
6 years ago

Something worth pondering in this context is what comes after Corbyn. Chances are that his shadow chancellor of the exchequer John McDonnell will be his replacement. At that point it will be time to really be concerned, because for some reason voters find this radical Marxist “trustworthy”.

NeverReady
NeverReady
6 years ago

In my view the Labour Party will split, Momentum and the Corbyn/McDonnell grouping on one side and the old Blairites and Labour centrists on the other.
Going forward a large Labour opposition with 200-250 seats will be split and result in 2 separate parties, with perhaps the Blairite/Centrists pulling in the rump of whats left of the Lib/Dems (who will not do as well as the media make out they will)
The result may be 2 parties with between 100-140 seats each, Tories with a majority and a sprinkling of Independents along with the SNP and DUP’s seats totaling 60 or so.

Corbyn/McDonnell will become irrelevant.

Just what I’m thinking at the moment…

Bastiat
Bastiat
6 years ago

If Labour loses badly and the Marxists try to stay in charge then a split is definitely in the cards.

wootendw
wootendw
6 years ago

“Looking Like a Tory Blowout and Complete Collapse of Labour”

Had it not been for BoJo’s warmongering idol, Winston Churchill, the Labour party would probably have disappeared into oblivion before it ever came to power in the ’20s.

Churchill: WWI (Liberal) First Lord of the Admiralty & cabinet member most enthusiastic about Britain’s disastrous entry into WWI.

Churchill: 1925 Chancellor of Exchequer returned Britain to gold standard at pre-WWI price, leading to Britain’s gold loss (mostly to US).

Churchill: WWII (Conservative) backbencher hounded Chamberlin for ‘appeasement’ leading to Chamberlin’s disastrous war guarantee to Poland’s Col. Beck, who broke off talks with Germans instead of granting them easier transit to E Prussia.

Johnson: 2020 PM of UK after ‘Brexit’, turns up heat on Russia to delight of US neocons.

Rupert DeBare
Rupert DeBare
6 years ago
Reply to  wootendw

Excellent point re: Poland guarantee, but I think Churchill had realized long before Chamberlain that the Nazis were gangsters who were violating every rule of civilized diplomacy to extend their tyranny.
Your parallel holds in another respect, too : Churchill was the heroic voice of the people, gifted with the poetic passion to inspire the democracies to resist and to hope and to never surrender ; Johnson cannot equal his hero, but his charisma and his oratorical turn of phrase could be crucial. “Where there is no vision, the people perish.”

shamrock
shamrock
6 years ago

This one person blog covers British politics more than the entire 600+ person staff of the Washington Post. Why is it so important?

Mish
Mish
6 years ago
Reply to  shamrock

If you want impeachment hearings watch WaPo
If you want stories on farting (I am serious) watch ZH.
There has not been a lot of economic news lately. I can cover British politics or US politics. The latter is coming soon enough and people won’t like that either.

Scooot
Scooot
6 years ago
Reply to  shamrock

I like it, better than the UK’s coverage.

Anda
Anda
6 years ago
Reply to  shamrock

You can’t call most of the media coverage, it is a lot of make believe and partisan. Mish much less so, you notice that people of opposing sides manage to share the page here ? I don’t know how important it is to be covering it though, but I guess if you don’t think it is important then there is no need to read related articles. Europe has a population roughly the size of the US I think, UK is a large part of that, plus the US is large part British and Irish descent, etc. etc. – I think it matters.

avidremainer
avidremainer
6 years ago
Reply to  Anda

EU of the 28=550 m 27=495, US=385 ?

HenryV
HenryV
6 years ago

Infinity to one.

dbannist
dbannist
6 years ago

Corbyn leads Labour into the abyss….and Johnson will lead the way to Brexit.

Anyone want to give odds of Brexit now?

Mish
Mish
6 years ago
Reply to  dbannist

77% by electoral calculus.
They did not say so directly, rather that is their odds of a Tory Majority.

Nearly any majority will do. Perhaps even a minority.

I suggest about 85%

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