Meet Théo, the Man Who Bet $30 Million on Trump Winning the Election

Théo is controlling the election speculation on Polymarket with massive bets of nearly all his liquid net worth.

Trump-Betting Whale Speaks Out

Théo, The Trump-Betting Whale, tells the Wall Street Journal ‘I Have Absolutely No Political Agenda

“My intent is just making money,” the man, who called himself Théo, said during a Zoom call with a reporter from The Wall Street Journal earlier this week. He described himself as a Frenchman who had previously lived in the U.S. and worked as a trader for banks.

Théo’s huge wagers on Polymarket—a prediction market that isn’t open to Americans—drew broad attention last month after the Journal reported that four accounts on the platform had been systematically purchasing wagers on a Trump victory. 

Last week, New York-based Polymarket said it had contacted the Trump whale as part of an investigation into the wagers. The company described the person behind the bets as a French national with extensive trading experience and a financial-services background.

“Based on the investigation, we understand that this individual is taking a directional position based on personal views of the election,” Polymarket said in a statement.

The details in Polymarket’s statement lined up with how Théo described himself. He confirmed that he had spoken to a member of Polymarket’s legal and compliance team.

Théo emailed the Journal after the publication of an Oct. 18 article about his wagers. To prove that he was behind the Polymarket wagers, the Journal asked him to place a bet on whether Taylor Swift would announce that she is pregnant in 2024—one of the many small, nonpolitical wagers available on the platform. Minutes later, Polymarket’s website showed that one of the four accounts, Theo4, had placed a small bet on Swift’s pregnancy.

During the Zoom call, Théo wore a gray Nike sweater and sported a short, neatly trimmed beard. Speaking English with a slight accent, he said he had made his bets after concluding that polls were underestimating Trump’s support. He denied speculation that his wagers were aimed at creating a sense of momentum for Trump. 

Théo declined to give his real name, and the Journal wasn’t able to confirm all the elements of his story. Although Théo said he was funding the bets with his own money, it couldn’t be determined whether this is true. Nor could the Journal rule out links between Théo and any political organization or Trump allies.

“I have absolutely no political agenda,” Théo wrote in his initial email. 

 Théo could get a payday of more than $80 million-—more than double his investment—if all of his expectations of a sweeping Trump victory come true. Besides his main wager on Trump winning the Electoral College, Théo has bet millions more on Trump winning the popular vote—a scenario that many political observers consider unlikely—and on Trump winning individual swing states such as Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. 

Selling Crypto Buying Trump

The Journal noted Blockchain data showed that the accounts were all funded by the same crypto exchange.

If Harris wins, Théo could lose most or all of his $30 million, which he described as the majority of his available liquid assets.

Théo’s conviction is based on the idea that polls undercounted Trump twice and will do so again.

Poll Methodology Changes

Nearly all pollsters have modified their weighting methodologies this year based on how respondents claimed to have voted in previous elections. This is called weighting by “recalled votes”.

However, people have false memories often claiming they voted for the winner when registrations show they did not even vote.

NYT/Siena is one of few pollsters this year who don’t use recalled votes.

Two Distinct Stories of the Election

On October 6, Nate Cohn at the New York Times explained How One Polling Decision Is Leading to Two Distinct Stories of the Election

Some of the numbers are more than a bit stale so it’s the methodology that’s important.

In one universe, Kamala Harris leads only narrowly in the national popular vote against Donald J. Trump, even as she holds a discernible edge in the Northern battlegrounds. The numbers look surprisingly similar to the 2022 midterm election.

In the other, Ms. Harris has a clear lead in the national vote, but the battlegrounds are very tight. It’s essentially a repeat of the 2020 election.

[Mish Comment: That lead in the states has now vanished]

This divide is almost entirely explained by whether a pollster uses “weighting on recalled vote,” which means trying to account for how voters say they voted in the last election.

This approach had long been considered a mistake. For reasons we’ll explain, pollsters have avoided it over the years. But they increasingly do it today, partly as a way to try to make sure they have enough Trump supporters after high-profile polling misfires in 2016 and 2020. The choice has become an important fault line among pollsters in this election, and it helps explain the whiplash that poll watchers are experiencing from day to day.

Over the last month, about two-thirds of polls were weighted by recalled vote.

An important — and perhaps obvious — consequence of weighting by recalled vote is that it makes poll results look more like the 2020 election results. The polls that don’t do it, including New York Times/Siena College surveys, are more likely to show clear changes from four years ago.

While the differences between the two sets of polls are relatively small, they add up to two different stories of the election. The polls that don’t weight on past vote tend to show results that align more closely with the result of the 2022 midterm election than the last presidential election. They also show that Mr. Trump’s advantage in the Electoral College, with respect to the popular vote, has dwindled over the last four years. The polls weighted on past vote, on the other hand, show little more than a 2020 repeat of the Electoral College gap.

When I started following polling methodology debates 20 years ago, weighting on recalled vote was considered a very bad idea. A surprising number of respondents don’t remember how they voted; they seem likelier to remember voting for the winner; and they sometimes report voting when voting records show they did not.

This pattern has persisted all the way from the first time I read about recall vote all the way to the present, based on data archived at the Roper Center and 2021-24 data from the Pew Research Center and Times/Siena. The same pattern shows up in the exit polls in every presidential election year when it was asked (2004, 2008, 2020).

Is Trump Ahead or Behind?

I am a believer in trends. Trump had momentum for weeks that has mostly flattened over the past few days.

So the question at hand now is whether that momentum put Trump ahead or just caught him up to a tossup.

I Challenge Nate Silver to an Election Bet

On October 27, I wrote I Challenge Nate Silver to an Election Bet, Winnings Go to Charity

I rated the odds of a reply from Silver as about zero percent and sure enough, no response.

I think Trump is at least a 56 percent favorite based on momentum alone, even if he just managed to catch up.

But I don’t rule out the possibility that pollsters messed this up again, in either direction, by monkeying around.

And I certainly can’t see cashing in $30 million in Bitcoin or whatever to place on this trade, if that was my entire liquid net worth.

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Neil
Neil
1 year ago

So what does $80M buy that $30M can’t? Ridiculous bet…

Carmen
Carmen
1 year ago

Nobody knows who is going to be the next POTUS. We’ll have to wait until Wednesday. I pray for peace and prosperity. It’s the only way ALL Americans can move on from all this toxicity.

Last edited 1 year ago by Carmen
Abert
Abert
1 year ago

I put $1500 on Kamala… looking forward to taking money from a trump supporter while they sniffle and burble “Rigged!”, shedding impotent angry tears

RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago

Went to vote, Thursday. One open polling station in the city. Five as of today. Walking in the door, was first in line, mid afternoon. Couldn’t determine if anyone running for City Council wasn’t a Democrat, so i left the entire slate unvoted on. I remember the mayor said he wouldn’t vote for Schiff unless he called for a ceasefire in Gaza. Mayor is chosen among the City Council members.

Democritus
Democritus
1 year ago

Convert having $0 – $30M – $60M to happiness impact and it reads something like 3 – 9.6 – 9.7…
Pretty stupid bet, from that perspective.

Michael Engel
Michael Engel
1 year ago

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Last edited 1 year ago by Michael Engel
truthseeking
truthseeking
1 year ago

Polymarket will loose big…they underestimate women desire to take revenge on men…most women want a woman in the white house-weather she is black, green, red, yellow or whatever..
This election is decided by women voting in masse and demps ability to cheat..

Michael Engel
Michael Engel
1 year ago
Reply to  truthseeking

Women don’t like a woman boss bitching around.

Michael Engel
Michael Engel
1 year ago

The demps who protect our democracy can no longer cheat and steal election. PA supreme court ruled against mail orders without handwritten dates.

truthseeking
truthseeking
1 year ago
Reply to  Michael Engel

So…? It all depends who is inputting those ballots into the counting machines…

KGB
KGB
1 year ago

Theo is not betting on Trump per se. Theo is betting the mainstream media polls are lies, misinformation, and propaganda. Theo knows a sure thing when he sees it.

Philbert
Philbert
1 year ago
Reply to  KGB

Theo’s gonna lose his butt

babelthuap
babelthuap
1 year ago

Trump will win but not based off votes. Wall Street wants this crop of architects gone. There has never been a group of them that have messed up things on this level domestically and globally.

Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago

This will be the face that Trump supporters show on Wednesday:

https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2024/10/31

RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo

I remember the face of Hillary voters on Wednesday.

KGB
KGB
1 year ago

Voting history has utility for young single men. You know a woman’s morals if she voted for Willie’s ho.

Mark
Mark
1 year ago

Greenwashing illicit coins?

Arthur Fully
Arthur Fully
1 year ago

I believe the highest probability outcome right now is Trump winning Georgia, North Carolina and Pennsylvania – but no other swing states. That would give him 269 electoral votes. He would need to win the 2nd District in Maine to get to 270, and I have no idea how the polling is going in that district. I think it’s light red. But if Trump loses there, the race would go to the House, where Trump would likely get the 26 votes needed to win (but barely). How many Never Trumpers inhabit the Republican caucus in the House?

Oracle
Oracle
1 year ago

Marist, which is one of the most accurate pollsters, shows Harris leading Trump 3 points in Michigan, and 2 points in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Based on both this, and the high percentage of female early voters already banked, I am now predicting the “blue wall” holds, and Harris wins. Mish’s earlier statement about voters breaking for Trump does not appear to be happening. It would also not surprise me if Harris also wins at least one of the other swing states as well, possibly North Carolina, which is being dragged down by Mark Robinson’s absolutely disastrous governor’s campaign.

Bryan
Bryan
1 year ago
Reply to  Oracle

Same Marist that had Vance only up by one in Ohio, and yet he blew it out by 7 points?

Oracle
Oracle
1 year ago
Reply to  Bryan

No pollster always gets it right. They still predicted Vance would win, but yes, it’s true that undecided, measured at 8%, broke decisively for Vance. It’s worth noting that was polled Oct 17 – 20th, and these polls above dropped just today. For the record, Marist also has Trump winning NC by 2 points, but I believe that Robinson will drag Trump down, combined with Harris’ far better GOTV ground game. Note that GA is also tied, and a high turnout by women here could also prove decisive.

JayW
JayW
1 year ago
Reply to  Bryan

To win, Trump has to beat Big Tech, the pollsters, the MSM and most importantly The System that’s working “behind the scenes” to ensure he loses.

Nobody should be surprised of Theo loses his $30M.

Don’t bet against The System is like saying don’t fight the Fed.

Legit!

heybige
heybige
1 year ago
Reply to  JayW

I remember when conservatives used to excoriate the “victimhood” of the progressives.

Why does it have to be these mysterious external forces? Isn’t just simply that the guy’s many many many flaws are flagrant and transparent?

MarkL
MarkL
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Check out Seth Keshel who forecasts based on voter registrations not polling. He has Trump winning.
https://youtu.be/4yuqQaaJNZ0?si=pxSJsLe-zmgxnrPa

Corvinus
Corvinus
1 year ago

Good luck to him and us.

JayW
JayW
1 year ago
Reply to  Corvinus

Amen, we’ll all need it.

Avery2
Avery2
1 year ago

If he’d bet $30,000,000 on the Bears last week he’d already be dead of a heart attack.

rjd1955
rjd1955
1 year ago
Reply to  Avery2

Comment of the day!

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 year ago

“Wall Street Journal ‘I Have Absolutely No Political Agenda

“My intent is just making money,” the man, who called himself Théo, said during a Zoom call with a reporter from The Wall Street Journal earlier this week.

The WSJ story makes no sense. If the guy just wanted to make money, he would have been better off buying call options on DJT stock. It went from $15 to $51 over the last month and now back down. The leveraged options would have returned 50x to 300x.

The story makes no sense because it says he is a trader so he should know that he could get far more leverage on options than on polymarket.

Whole thing is fishy.

Not Artificially Intelligent
Not Artificially Intelligent
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

How do you know he didn’t do that too?

Also, any experienced trader knows only to trade where he has a demonstrated edge. DJT is possibly too derivative vs. specific election results.

Flavia
Flavia
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

The term “Russian-backed” comes to mind.

Philbert
Philbert
1 year ago

Theo’s gonna be 30 million poorer on Wednesday… but he’ll cry less than the trump simps.

smohanty
smohanty
1 year ago

He is most likely using other people’s money in this business, not his own. Wait and see!

MikeC711
MikeC711
1 year ago

Interesting guy. I believe that a person (especially a non-American) can wager dispassionately in a simple attempt to make money. If he is right (even just on the main bets) … he will be a wealthier man when it’s over. As long as he has the money and losing doesn’t put him on the taxpayer dime (in France or where-ever) … I hope he has fun.

Mr. Completely Fed Up
Mr. Completely Fed Up
1 year ago

I don’t think this election will be honest enough for him to win his bet.

JayW
JayW
1 year ago

Agreed. What matters is what happens in the days & weeks afterwards.

Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  JayW

Sore losers!

Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago

Not since Lafayette has a Frenchman done more for the American cause.

Not Artificially Intelligent
Not Artificially Intelligent
1 year ago
Reply to  Midnight

What are odds that someone picks a lawfare battle with the guy?

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