Trump’s interview on Meet the Press sounds exactly like the deportation strategy I proposed. 
Above video clip: “And we’re gonna make it very easy for people to come in ….”
Please consider this full interview: Donald Trump details his plans for Day 1 and beyond in the White House.
Partial Interview Transcript (Emphasis Mine)
Kristen Welker:
What about dreamers, sir? Dreamers, who were brought to this country illegally as children. You said once back in 2017 they, quote, “Shouldn’t be very worried about being deported.” Should they be worried now?President-Elect Trump:
The dreamers are going to come later, and we have to do something about the dreamers because these are people that have been brought here at a very young age. And many of these are middle-aged people now. They don’t even speak the language of their country. And yes, we’re going to do something about the dreamers. And —Kristen Welker:
What does that mean? What are you going to do?President-Elect Trump:
I will work with the Democrats on a plan. And if we can come up with a plan, but the Democrats have made it very, very difficult to do anything. Republicans are very open to the dreamers. The dreamers, we’re talking many years ago they were brought into this country. Many years ago. Some of them are no longer young people. And in many cases, they’ve become successful. They have great jobs. In some cases they have small businesses. Some cases they might have large businesses. And we’re going to have to do something with them. And —Kristen Welker:
You want them to be able to stay, that’s what you’re saying?President-Elect Trump:
I do. I want to be able to work something out, and it should’ve been able to be worked out over the last three or four years and it never got worked out. You know, Biden could’ve done it because he controlled, you know, Congress to a certain extent, right? He could’ve done something, but they didn’t do it. I never understood why because they always seemed to want to do it, but then when it comes down to it, they don’t. I think we can work with the Democrats and work something out.Kristen Welker:
Let me ask you about another group of people, the estimated 4 million families in America who have mixed immigration status. So I’m talking about parents who might be here illegally —President-Elect Trump:
Yeah.Kristen Welker:
– but the kids are here legally. Your Border Czar Tom Homan —President-Elect Trump:
You’re talking about separation?Kristen Welker:
Well, I mean there are two aspects to this. Your Border Czar Tom Homan said they can be deported together.President-Elect Trump:
Correct.Kristen Welker:
Is that the plan?President-Elect Trump:
Well, that way you keep the — well, I don’t want to be breaking up families, so the only way you don’t break up the family is you keep them together and you have to send them all back.
Here is the complete Meet the Press Interview Transcript.
What Happened?
- Was it A): Trump was never serious about deport them all.
- Or was it B): Trump was serious about deport them all but Republican governors or economists talked sense into his head.
Those are your only two options.
In parts of the interview, Trump sounded much more in tune with deport them all, but the cited paragraphs are unquestionably clear.
Deal on Criminals
Trump is now angling for a deal on criminals. Given that change in tune, there’s a strong chance that amnesty for dreamers will get enough cooperation from Democrat Senators to break any filibuster threat.
In turn, blue states will be forced to go along. Bye-bye criminals.
57 Percent Approval to Deport All Illegal Immigrants
On November 24, I wrote CBS News Poll Show 57 Percent Approval to Deport All Illegal Immigrants
Let’s dive into details of the latest YouGov/CBS News poll on immigration, policy and the US economy.
If Trump really does decide to go after all illegal immigrants, the economy will suffer and he will regret it.
The poll is bullsheet because it did not discuss costs.
If you asked people if they would be willing to deport everyone if prices rose 15 percent you would have gotten a completely different answer.
It’s the same as nonsensical polls regarding living wages. People favor all kinds of things until you ask them how much they are willing to pay for them.
Border Czar Tom Homan Rips Illinois Governor JB Pritzker On Illegal Immigrants
On November 25, I noted Border Czar Tom Homan Rips Illinois Governor JB Pritzker On Illegal Immigrants
Homan understands the mission and honestly believes in it. Importantly, he has the bureaucratic experience to pull it off.
I seriously do not understand governors and mayors willing to aid rapists, drug dealers, and gang leaders, etc.
What Should We Do?
In the above post, I stated:
I suggest we shut down the border, return to stay in Mexico, arrest and deport the criminals, institute a reasonable immigration policy, and give amnesty to hard-working immigrants who have been here a long time.
It would be very costly and damaging economically to try to deport 15 million people, even 7 million people.
Fancy that. Trump now agrees.
The New Home for Hispanics is the Republican Party
On November 7, I discussed The New Home for Hispanics is the Republican Party
Please click on the above link and play the PBS video interview of Republican Florida rep. Maria Salazar on Hispanics, Trump, and deportations.
She is author of the The Dignity Act
Here’s The Dignity Act Bill Summary
I endorse the Dignity Act. It is exceptionally balanced, well thought out, and bipartisan.
Should I Just Kiss My Illegal Immigrant Husband Goodbye?
On December 6, I discussed the above question in California Reaffirms an Open Arms Invitation to Illegal Immigrants
Things That Make Sense
- Deporting everyone on the ICE list charged with violent crimes regardless of other circumstances
- Deporting recent arrivals with no job and no sponsorship
- Deporting Venezuelan gang members
Things That Make No Sense
- Deporting spouses of US citizens
- Deporting parents of US citizens
- Deporting people who have been here for years, are employed, and are leading productive lives
- Deporting people, especially Afghans who risked their lives aiding the US for years in holding off the Taliban and who would immediately be killed upon return
- Deporting people without understanding the economic impacts
Deport Them All Foolishness
Deport them all is both economically stupid and morally unjust.
People who propose such policies are economic illiterates. Most of them just parrot whatever Trump says without question.
Vindication
I am pleased to report Trump is 1) open to amnesty for dreamers 2) open to discussion about spouses of US citizens 3) open to discussion about parents of US citizens 4) open to discussion of economic impacts and 5) open to moral issues.
Wow, who couldda thunk? (other than me and a few other brave souls willing to stand up to the deport them all insanity).
Trump does not want the mass inflation and job shortages that would occur under deport them all madness.
Deport Them All Is Officially Dead
The deport them all meme is now officially dead. I did not believe Trump would be that stupid. And I was right.
And now that Trump is on board with a realistic border proposal, I suspect most of the flag-waving economic illiterates and hypocrites will soon be on board too.
After all, everyone knows “Republicans are very open to the dreamers.”
Since that what Trump says, obviously, it’s always been that way.
My stated position on immigration has not changed.
Trump’s has.
I don’t recall you mentioning DACA. At least not in your last several posts on immigration. Trump always held the dreamers as a separate group going back to 2017. They are children who came to the US before 2007. I never considered them part of the coming round-up and my assumption was correct.
When Trump was elected in ’16 one of the first things he did was to not sign DACA. His statement was: “Now, it’s time for Congress to do something about them.” But Congress did NOTHING for them. All they did was continue their hatred of Trump. The thing about the Dreamers is that they have been living their lives and paying taxes like everyone else. The illegals Trump wants to deport are those that invaded in the past 4 years — starting with the cartels and other criminals. What is interesting is that many country’s ambassadors have already told their people who have come here illegally to leave. One of the first was the Philippine Ambassador.
Obama has the record. It is said he deported 5.6 million.
DEFINE “Dreamers”, Mr. Trump! You owe us THAT much at least.
Who needs to send anyone, anywhere if we annex Mexico and Canada to the US? See other recent comments by Trump.
I think this article is a total misrepresentation of what he said in this interview.
Just saying.
It is damn clear you cannot read.
That was a transcript not an opinion
I HAVE A DREAM. That one day a politician will say what he means and means what he says. I know that makes me an idiot.
Humans are resources.
No difference than any other natural resource like oil, food and minerals.
The US government needs them.
Watched the entire interview.
In this rare case almost everything he said was rational.
However, I shall not hold my breath.
They want to create “U.S. citizens.” All U.S. citizens have a TRUST created in their NAMES. The “British Territorial United States”, a CORPORATION that is a FRANCHISE of the British Crown, that you believe is your govt., but IS NOT, then go to the IMF and get $MILLIONS for THEIR “U.S. citizens”, which THEY created, which they then begin to TRADE on the BOND MARKET for $MILLIONS$. Your Birth Certificate is a BOND, and a BOND is created for every US citizen – making you a WARD OF THE STATE and their PROPERTY, aka HUMAN TRAFFICKING. This is about this TRUST SCAM, mainly – what it is. This is what they are doing. That is what your ALL-CAPS name is all about, ENSLAVING you without you knowing that a “U.S. citizen is the PROPERTY and SUBJECT of the British Crown Inc.. It is called an UNCONSCIONABLE CONTRACT – one you never agreed to knowingly, and were deceived into agreeing with by deception. Americans are born “State Nationals” – WE THE PEOPLE, not British Territorial U.S. citizens – but we are soon UNLAWFULLY CONVERTED into “U.S. citizens”, never being told what that is – brainwashed to believe “U.S. citizens” are “Americans” for many generations, since the Civil War when the FRAUD began – ALL FRAUD. 1933 is when it kicked into high gearn – the FRAUD against Americans BY the entity occupying the District of Columbia, the British Territorial “United States” – which is NOT “The United States of America.” Semantic deceit and dumbed down people go hand-in-hand.
US citizens ONLY have “privileges”, not “God-given Unalienable rights” they are owed as Americans. Only by fraud and Un-conscionable contract are you a U.S. citizen. Remain a US citizen – be their DUPE, and PAY ALL THEIR FABRICATED DEBTS. Let THEM decide what Rights you have, which they call “Civil Rights” (made up BS), which are ONLY “Privileges” that they can take at whim – when the time is ripe. Thus is the destiny of a British Territorial US citizen slave – with a small (c).
Not so for us STATE NATIONALS – WE THE PEOPLE – we ARE Caesar, in America.
If you think these people’s work is not vital, that may be a valid opinion. But you should stay far away from whoever gave you the information of “My reasoning on that is due to the large monthly stipend and free housing that many/most received from the Biden admin.”
People in the US illegally are not generally available for any federal benefits. Although their US-born children might be. States or cities can provide what they want – or feel like they need to. But your general statement has been debunked many times.
maybe because he was told what to say? after all his porn star wife and kid are part of the invasion.
I bet his “porn star wife and kid” can best you in a spelling/math/language contest Irish..
Trump says all the words and gets credit for the ones people like. By saying he’s for everything, he covers all the bases.
I recall early in Trumps first administration he asked congressional leaders for a border security bill that accommodated Dreamers (give & take), followed by an immigration reform bill. The recording of the conversation is memorable because Speaker Pelosi was in the room and, at least on the surface, acting normally, going so far as to suggest a “clean bill” for Dreamers separate from border security. Nonetheless, there was a Trump request nearly 8 years ago to address immigration comprehensively, and Congress stalled out on it. The current Trump sounds like the original Trump.
Trump had a deal with Schumer – then stupidly backed out of it
I still don’t understand what exactly you mean when you say “shut down the border” or “seal the border.” Can you please define this?
“Trump’s interview on Meet the Press sounds exactly like the deportation strategy I proposed. . . .Wow, who couldda thunk? (other than me and a few other brave souls willing to stand up to the deport them all insanity).”
Jeeze, your courage, intelligence, modesty, wit and grace should be a model for everyone with a website.
Wow, a different Trump from the one who campaigned.
Shooter identified. Radical leftist anti capitalist. The left and their violence. It never ends
In order to to get anything done you need some congressional support. The media every time jumps off the deep end for political reasons. Trump knows he needs some support on the other side he can only change some rules sending back the last 5+ yrs or so is a start so start with the criminals and penalize states that refuse and damn, stop giving away benefits to illegal aliens.
You get it. Many here do not. They want to thump their chests and say, see I told you so.
Trump has to work with what he has. But first he has to win an election. Otherwise he is just another Monday morning quarterback.,
He has many enemies throughout the entrenched elites and deep state.
They will do whatever they can to make his a failed Presidency.
The proper line of questioning is why has no other approach then full on Amnesty ever been broached to the Public? That answer is because some group for Political reasons made immigration a cornerstone of their choice to manipulate the electorate.
If they can divide along Race, Color, Creed, then they can dominate at Ballot Box.
All part of the Washington Plantation.
I remain hopeful Trump will move beyond that and truly be a President for the People.
That will be his Legacy. He does not need the money or the Power trip of Washington.
Some people just want to leave their name on History by doing the right thing.
For those whose attention span is greater then the past few years, would post this reminder that came from movie based on Count of Monte Cristo.
A movie based upon a story line about getting revenge.
“After all I am a Count, not a Saint.” Last line of the Movie and worth heeding as to what is ahead.
Mish, what is your position on ending birthright citizenship?
Barron would have to go back… his mom was not a citizen.
Barron will make an excellent President someday.
It’s interesting. Apparently the 14th Amendment-related issue was already decided by SCOTUS to include only those who were born in the US to those parents who are LEGALLY in the US, so could open some doors. Have to find the case, though…
Highly unlikely to happen. It would take a constitutional amendment that has no chance.
Understood but isn’t the whole concept being abused as it is today vs how it was written. It technically should not exist. It doesn’t exist in any other country
It technically exists in about 30 countries with Canada being the other. The legacy of English common law just solis , but a lot of Latin American countries have them too. Food for thought
Thanks for the facts; to some of us, they matter
Day 1: The United States federal/state/local governments are bankrupt.
Day 2: Illegal aliens are the demographic necessity to alleviate the bankruptcy.
Day 3: Wash/Rinse/Repeat the lie as long as they vote Republican.
By the way, the United State is bankrupt. End of story.
Somebody always has to pick the cotton.
Maybe he reads your posts.
Hopefully someone in his administration does. Lots of good ideas posted here.
Too many big words.
On a previous post I mentioned this is what the Trump admin is saying: We looked around and there are on a few hundred people to deport (ones that committed crimes the last 4 years). Everyone else can stay.
So basically the same as Biden policy as it is now (border tightened since Trump railroaded the immigration bill).
Yeah, why have a border at all right
Yeah, it’ll probably be about the same. Any meaningful change would never make it through house + senate anyway, unless he wants to just re-run the bill from last year. But *that* might not pass the house, even.
It could pass. Trump just wants his name on stuff and to take credit. It wasn’t that the immigration bill was bad. It was that he wouldn’t have gotten reelected if it had actually passed.
Daniel Penny acquitted. What a disgrace this trial even took place
Was he acquitted on both counts or just on the one that had the longer jail term?
They dismissed the other. Its over
Thank God.
I wonder how much Trump winning had to do with this (correct) verdict? All the fiasco around Floyd happened under Biden.
He should sue the city of NY and the DA.
from the bloviator-in-chief, who knew /sarc
But in reality, he should put the US military on the border and seal it up. They are the “defense department” after all. Use the military as a support/logistics function to export everyone to Mexico – since Mexico encouraged all these people to go to the US as long as they didn’t stay in Mexico, put them back and let Mexico deal with it.
That should suffice because it covers what, 10-12 million?
Free phone for welfare recipients was a program started under Reagan, it still exists today .
Biden is a dreamer. He’s in la la land. Why is he giving a Nazi salute? Lol. https://nypost.com/2024/12/09/us-news/joe-jill-biden-ignore-kamala-harris-at-kennedy-center-honors/
Well well well….Trump now backpedaling on kicking out ALL the immigrants? Lol. I told you so. There was never going to be any real change except a circus show with sound bites and headlines to throw a few chunks of red meat to the rabid MAGA folks then it would be business as usual.
No wall, no mass deportations, no real change when it’s all said and done but even if by some magic miracle all of those things happened, the next administration would simply undo it.
You can’t fix the demographic death spiral and I’m sure Trump handlers had to take him aside to explain the more people you kick out the faster the economy collapses, the faster medicare and social security go broke and mass upheaval happens.
For the rabid MAGA folks, you should have listened to your master:
“Be fruitful and multiply”
“You reap what you sow”
“The meek shall inherit the earth”
But you ignored the advice and now you pay the price……
The Democrats blocked the wall and stopped construction. Mass deportations will still be happening. Lots of real change. You cheering the damage done by Biden/Harris is sweet. What advice is “more of the same.”
Well Trump/GOP will have 100% control of all branches of government in 41 days so let’s see some awesome results. I suspect you’ll still be whining about democrats after Jan 20th because that’s all you do, whine, whine, and whine.
Nothing to whine about. We saw the results of the last 4 years. The facts are in. And yes the country spoke and rejected your hate.
Such tender feelings….
Who here needs a pardon? I have a direct line to Hunter and for a handsome fee he will get his dad to give you a blanket pardon for the length of time you need. Better hurry up because for now he can still sign his name.
Nope, Mish has reported on this many times. Trump rejected a great deal with the Democrats for wall funding.
That is correct.
He will finally get the deal he could have had in 2017
In fact I will keep receipts on this banger of a post which will be like your posts with 100% confidence that Trump would lose badly in the election. You’re never right. Which is hard to do.
He doesn’t care what he promised, he got the votes.
Massive deportations coming. Promise kept. Throwing the dreamers a bone changes nothing
Trump may well just fast track the immigration process for Dreamers and let them put up their qualifications showing what they have been doing while being here.
Immigration issue is not well served via Blanket Amnesty as has been practice. Having criteria for allowing immigration of individuals is the standard used by other countries.
Even during past major immigration events in US there was a need to first be sponsored and secondly to have evidence of being able to self support once allowed into country. Being free of disease was also required.
These are just common sense.
I would add the economy as it runs now with all the certification- verification processes required by employers, giving a chance to come clean defines a time slot. Once that announced time slot is exceeded then the Legal process for establishing immigration Rule compliance can no longer be set aside.
Giving a Grace period allowing compliance is not amnesty.
True he only cares about feeding his ego. This is a sick man that should be receiving mental health care. The publicity that comes with being POTUS is all that he cares about, not you not me, only his own ego.
Don Jr is hawking gold on annoying pop up Rumble ads while mentioning “the irreversible financial collapse”, so there’s that.
Yup, I agree. Trump blew hard on the dog whistles he knew would get him elected.
In the same interview Trump also said he will not change the eligibility age or benefits for SSI/Medicare. He went on to say that he will pursue legislation to not tax SSI benefits. The deficit can’t be fixed without addressing those programs through benefit cuts and/or increased taxation. Cutting taxes, as he is proposing, will make it much worse.
Based on his 1st administration, I figured Trump would start to soften on alot of his campaign promises. Just like a true politician.
The bigger question is why he insists on going on those hack shows.
Very true. He is a saint with the lies the media continually tell.
Sounds reasonable to me, but it won’t be free, if you know what I mean.
Quid pro quo, baby!
Probably $75-100B to secure the border and deport about 5-7M people over the next 4 years, letting in about 500K after they pass A-Z requirements to re-enter legally.
“Deporting people, especially Afghans who risked their lives aiding the US for years in holding off the Taliban and who would immediately be killed upon return”
Those would be legitimate asylum seekers. Most coming across the northern and southern borders do not fit into that category.
– Democrats have made it very, very difficult to do anything. Republicans are very open to the dreamers.
> I find it comical in a small way, that I had just finished an article with Cenk Uygur, and He was stating the same thing, but in a different manner. I agreed with Him on virtually everything, and I especially liked his delivery (humble).
Trump: I really and truly do want to work something out.
Democrats: Your Hitler, Never!
Trump: I really and truly do want to work something out.
Uygur: I really and truly do want to work something out.
Mish, are You onboard? I hope so, as you a great ally for what needs to be done, and that’s the direction the Party & Trump is heading in!
Trump said it best, when he pointed out: Biden could’ve done it because he controlled, you know, Congress to a certain extent, right? He could’ve done something, but they didn’t do it.
It’s not that they didn’t, but rather that they couldn’t, as Uygur and Trump have pointed out. They eat each other up all the time. They cannot agree, because “Tyrants” Demand Their Way, and with so many tyrants in the room, at all times, they can’t get out of there own way, never mind trying to come to some sort of agreement on ANYthing!!!
What Happened?
A
– Most of them just parrot whatever Trump says without question.
>That sounds like Democrats switching over to Republican to me? They are mostly Parrots, but not so much for Republicans.
Vindication: I am pleased to report Trump is 1) open to amnesty for dreamers 2) open to discussion about spouses of US citizens 3) open to discussion about parents of US citizens 4) open to discussion of economic impacts and 5) open to moral issues.
Welcome Aboard, and Happy to have you arrive! More ammunition to fight the good fight!!
“Deport them all” was a “Narrative” that was Spun, not a direction for Trump.
I am Very Happy to report: “The Narrative is dead”
I have hope for Mish. But Never Trumpers are worse than liberals in admitting they were wrong on any level.
My stated position on immigration has not changed.
Trump’s has.
Mish is Ok, He is honest and fair. Liberals same thing, but can be more noisy at times…
Never Trumpers or more commonly “TDS” is an illusion of sorts, dreams of what should/could be mostly, and some more aggressive, mostly paid shills & agitators mixed in.
The feeling that one must agree and even participate in, just to feel like they belong and are accepted is very strong indeed…
So maybe Trump and or his advisors are smarter than you think?
Any rational individual wants illegal criminals out of our as in all of us country so of course that is step one with deportations
And now I want to see the lying liberal city mayors try to stop criminals from getting arrested. Oh please you lying mother fer liberal politicians I want video of that
That will keep these scumbags out for the next 12 years
You would think rational individuals would want criminals out yet if you listen to Democratic positions on this you’d be surprised to find that’s a no go for many of them also. Braindead
“Wants the Illegal Dreamers to Stay” ¶ NO! ☮️✝️
He lied to you all. Repeatedly.
Couldn’t care less about the Afghans. Hopefully, deporting them will make future US military interventions more difficult as the population of the invaded country will be less likely to cooperate. We forcibly repatriated Soviet citizens back to Stalin after WW2 where they were imprisoned and killed.
I would be a little more accepting of a very limited amnesty for some of the illegals if we could definitively end birthright citizenship for children whose parents are illegal. We’ve run out of road to kick the immigration can down.
People miss the issue (or are just being duplicitous) when they ask about how ‘honest’ or ‘hard working’ these ‘migrants’ are. Its irrelevant unless you have a fundamentally anti-American worldview.
As soon as you ask about how many DACA members are ‘hard working’you have:
a)lost (whether accidentally or by design)
b)sold out America
c)not understood the key issues
There are no doubt 200 million ‘hard working Chinese citizens’ alone. Can they come to America and take over? (and they would if you let them in—regardless of what you ‘called’ them. Because that what demographics mean).
(The merchant class would say yes–although not so explicitly.)
The answer is NO!! Becaue nations are ethicities not economies, ONLY the merchant class has any other viewpoint–and they push it everywhere. That’s why they push endless amnesty and know any amnesty is just a new tool to push for the next round.
White Americans are dreamers too. They have hopes and ambitions as the founding fathers. These are THEIR dreams for the future: Stop flooding our countries with millions of non-Whites and stop forcing Whites to assimilate with them.
A nation is not an economy. But you can easily see how has that base and corrupt worldview.
I hope you have a merry ‘white’ Christmas
All illegals need to go back. Including white ones. I don’t discriminate.
Watched some clips. Welker was rather hostile in her questioning. Trump even called her out on it. I have to wonder how much rent in Los Angeles would go down if illegal aliens were deported. Democrats are pushing rent control and renters rights against apartment owners, who are not the ones causing the problem.
There wouldnt have to be rent control if the building owners would just consult the inflation numbers more often. Inflation is 2.5%, not 25%. (Haha)
Rent would drop to “Market Value” based on affordability by the pool of renters looking for rental space.
Today “Taxpayers Pay” via the Government, after collection of the taxes via the IRS. The rent is based on a few things, but affordability is not even on the list, as Taxpayer Money is very Bountiful!!
Based upon:
1. Whose Property?
2. What Favors are Owed?
3. Who is Renting?
4. How Much is needed by the Owner?
5. What Favors are being Offered?
Etc.
This has been going on since Reagan. A “comprehensive” agreement was reached. In return for amnesty for the people who are already here, the Democrats to agreed to seal the borders, track visa overstays and implement workplace controls. The amnesty was accomplished and nothing has been done relative to the Democrat promises. Fool me once…..
Eliminate birthright citizenship. Stop the flow by completing those parts of the 1986 agreement never funded by the Democrats. That leaves a fixed number of illegals to be ranked from convicted murderer to that valedictorian, veteran, Nobel Peace Prize winning dreamer we hear about all the time. The negotiation can begin with a fixed number of people with which we have to deal. One by one; go or stay. No more “comprehensive.”
One must realize that the Democrat definition of “comprehensive” covers every person in the world who might, some day, want to come to the US regardless of what they bring to the table.
Agree … also need to end Chain Migration where one person sponsors on average 3-6 more and up to 20-30.
https://cis.org/sites/default/files/2017-09/vaughan-chain-migration_1.pdf
also there is a LEGAL pathway to the USA already in existence. Go to the Embassy where they live and apply for acceptance as an immigrant. That has always been the pathway. Exceptions do exist for example at the end of the Vietnam war many vietnamese followed the rules and became good citizens. Our family sponsored several who found work, went to college and had productive lives. The easy alternative is to just open the floodgates and that is how we are today.. Does it happen overnight, not usually but it does happen
-If you asked people if they would be willing to deport everyone if prices rose 15 percent you would have gotten a completely different answer.-
Dumping the costs of medical care of the uninsured illegals onto everyone else would stop. That should lower costs.
Dumping illegal alien kids into the public school system and having taxpayers foot the bill should stop. That shoud lower costs. Ditto the prison system.
Illegals receiving SSI payments would stop, too. And yes, illegals can be elibile for SSI.
Really on the SSI?
https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-11051.pdf
Yes, good link. Most Biden immigrants are on “parole” (3rd bullet) … in the Biden DOJ/HLS eyes, they most are not illegal …they are pending hearings so are on parole.
No, they are not: https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2023-08/23_0712_cbp_fy22_parole_requests.pdf
Almost every blog poster thinks they know what defines ‘illegal’ within migrant law and who qualifies for SSI. But they don’t really know. And it’s sad because the basics of this information can be found with a 60-second web search from reputable sources
He says whatever he thinks the people nearby want to hear. There is no brain activity. First Lady Leon is the real ruler.
It would of being hell yes. And the threat proves the point–this is an attack on America.
A nation is not an economy. ONly the merchant class and their lackeys want to make it one.
He got the vote. He doesn’t need to stick to his promises anymore
There is/was a lot of belief by Trump voters that he’d actually deport millions and millions of people. It’ll be interesting to see what they think of this.
As for actual policy, what Trump wants sounds like it’ll need mostly Democratic support to pass the house. It will also be interesting to see how many GOP reps fall in line.
I guess that assumes Trump does anything at all. I’m not sure he cares now that he’s elected/no longer at risk of going to jail. He may just ignore the issue completely.
Biden and Obama didnt let illegal criminals stay here very long, so trying to “deport all criminal illegals” probably had no legs anyway, and there is something fundamentally wrong having a person who was brought here at age 1-2-3 (I know of one) who had no choice but to go over the border with parents really shouldn’t be guilty of anything. If you want to deport the parents, go right ahead. In my friends case, one is dead and the other worked herself not to death for family of 9, but pretty close. Even my Republican mom saw sending dreamers back 20 years later as wrong.
Everything is a negotiation. Does one start a negotiation regarding illegal immigration by stating that their position is that the only ones who will be deported are convicted murderers and rapists and hope that the Democrats will go along with both?
No. A negotiation is “We want one mile of totally secure southern border in return for granting legal status to five fully vetted Dreamers.” The Democrats come back with “We want 30 Dreamers, not five, and we will agree to just 10 feet of secure border.” That is a negotiation.
That is a game, played by elite people with no skin in. Ill say again — a lot of the remaining fence line is private property. You gonna do the American thing and just take peoples’ property to build a fence everyone will find a way to get around?
Scott, let’s say there are some people on the southern border who, for reasons of their own, do not want the southern edge of their property secured against trespassers from any of almost 200 different countries. Let us also say that in order to complete the wall and provide road access for the Border Patrol to maintain the wall, we would use eminent domain to secure the necessary property.
Every day in this country we use eminent domain to build roads, libraries and Walmarts. These projects do not come near to involving national security.
Alternatively, should it be economically feasible, we could build the wall on the northern edge for those property owners who do not want the wall on their southern edge. They might have to get themselves to an international crossing point to visit their own country, but it would leave undisturbed that strip of their property about which you are concerned.
If it could be done so easily it would have been done already.
Without Democrat opposition it would have been done.
One day folks will realize Trump does reasonable things. He just uses hyperbole to set the bar. Time and time again.
Yes. People somehow think the Obama type who likes the smell of his own farts acts Presidential. Meanwhile his policy was atrocious. Substance over style please.
You wont vote for substance. You will vote for “shiny things.”
What substance was Harris offering? Seriously.
Time will tell, but absolute power does corrupt absolutely
He simply cannot deliver. There is no strategy, just lies and failure.
He has to talk tough otherwise he will just encourage more to come over or to arrange their lives to fit within an exception. If he says “we won’t deport the illegal spouses of citizens” a whole bunch of new marriages would occur. There would have to be a date set, like “if you were married before 2020 and have citizen children born before 2024.” Just an example.
The other class of people who need to be deported are those who already had their full immigration hearing and were found to not be entitled to asylum. They already have an order for removal and so need to be removed.
Saying, “Republicans are very open to the dreamers” is a sarcastic jab. If you understand Trump, he is not “Republican”. He is as counter to the current crop of “Republicans” as he is to “Democrats/Progressives”. These folks have been unified in carving up the value our society produced for their own ends for decades. Trump is about returning the power to control that value back to the people and out of DC and out of State governments.
The “people” have been so wrong about things (like that slavery much?) and the states are so gerrymandered that getting to perfection relying on the states is a long road to go.
It is amazing to me that slavery has been a “thing” throughout history, including up to today, but is only an unforgivable sin if it happened 200 years ago in a specific area of North America.
“Deporting everyone on the ICE list charged with violent crimes regardless of other circumstances”
Would that be violent crimes domestically? If so, that basically lets the subject get away without punishment and then pushes the alleged perpetrator of a violent crime onto an unsuspecting population. Would be no “justice” for victims or their families either. How about prosecute and incarcerate violent offenders, then deport them? Prosecute them then deport and pay to have them incarcerated in the country they came from?
As for your two possibilities, “A” seems more likely and it fits the pattern of bluster. How realistic would it be for the president-elect to be talked out it by governors and/or economists?
It would have to be people with criminal backgrounds in their home country or in this country, gang members, and people on the terrorist watch list. All gang members should go, even if they’ve never been charged. Example, the Venezuelan gangs are recruiting younger people in NYC to do their crimes for them. The gang member might never have been charged, so what?
or C) Trump wildly inflated the negative effects of illegal immigration and used the resulting fear to get elected. Once elected, he can now backpedal to a reasonable platform supported by democrats, hire illegals for his hotels, give himself amnesty for his crimes and give himself tax cuts.
Ask NYC about the negative effects of illegal immigration. Billions of dollars they don’t have that aren’t being used for actual citizens.
You think big cities werent overwhelmed with bodies in the last 200 years when they had influxes of large numbers of immigrants? Its a stress, but in time it gets it gets handled. If East and West Germany can become GERMANY, we can do it too. And just think of all the Syrians who may be going back home now. Europe may find the loss of all those young people to hurt a lot.
They are hurting a lot, now.
Im here in Chicago. No we arent. 🙂
Bullshit. Do the math. NYC alone looks like 15 billion in spending for illegals over the past 3 years. The idea this is a good thing is staggering. Why aren’t you housing illegals? Until you do your part you have no right to be critical of sending back anyone.
And if you think sending people back is so simple, you do it. Dont rely on Trump to carry your water.
The criticism surrounding Johnson and Chicago’s New Arrivals Mission – which so far has cost the city $574.5 million since its inception in August 2022 – comes as the mayor is trying to overcome a $1 billion budget shortfall by the end of the year. The City Council held a meeting Monday during which residents voiced their opposition to an approximately $60 million property tax increase floated as one way to help close the gap.
“I got a great way what we can do with this budget. First, let’s start with cutting off illegals getting free everything, free housing, free schooling, free food. Yeah, let’s start with that. That’ll save us a lot of money,” one woman told Johnson.
“Let’s start there. Then, let’s start with you. Your salary. You are going down in history as the worst mayor in America. Let’s start with cutting yours. You making too much money,” she continued.
Don’t bring reality into this!
I am aware that they are.
Tell that to the people of NYC and Chicago, as well as Martha’s Vineyard, which didn’t want a single one of the group Desantis sent them.
We in Chicago love young people and integrated them more or less ok. I just gave a $10 to a lady on the street with her kid yesterday. Lucky for you, people can move around this country freely, so some of those young people might actually work for you or help you someday. If I had it my way, we’d keep them all here and you’d have to clean your own house or probably go without medical care.
LMAO. Sure. you integrated all the illegals in chicago that has the african american community so pissed off at their african american mayor.
Says Scott whom probably lives in a gated community of all white people.
Eh, makes the news more interesting ….
Your city is going broke under the weight of illegals.
They said that 30 years ago. There are other ways to go broke .. not just from illegals.
I remember people in Chicago complaining to the mayor about his plan to increase property taxes by 300 million to handle the influx of illegal immigrants.
Why say there are only 2-options? Trump knows full well this is a complicated situation and very dependent on an individual’s adherence to our merit-based system or simply believing they are owed lifetime security. Those with a criminal record will be deported forthwith. Those who came recently or have been here for a while and now have families and are positively adding to our society require a sorting process and a pathway to earn citizenship. They must begin the process of obtaining citizenship to demonstrate their desire to follow the US Constitution and we must provide that pathway. Those who do not move to do so will be deported. This will be a self-identifying sorting process. We want to keep the contributors to society which is the original intent of immigration law.