If you answered either yes or no you are not thinking clearly. If you answered maybe, then please explain why.
Question of the Day
“Should President Trump participate in a 2nd Presidential debate with Kamala Harris hosted by Fox News?” by Brigitte Gabriel @ACTBrigitte.
@TaraBull808 asks the same question.
Wrong Answers
Those answers are all wrong but I have sympathy for those who said yes.
Help With Maybe
Instead of the headline question, address this one: Under what conditions should Trump accept a second debate?
The Correct Conditions
- Trump agrees prepare
- Trump refuses to get baited
- Trump does not wing any answers (because he is prepared for every conceivable question)
- Trump does not duck any questions
- Trump stops name calling
- Microphones turned off when not a candidate’s turn to speak
None of those things have anything to do with Harris or the fairness of moderators. They all have to do with Trump preparing for the debate and discipline to stick to a planned script.
Everyone moaning about how rigged the first debate misses the fact that Trump had an easy home run pitch but swung and missed.
I discussed this before.
Trump Refuses a Second Debate With Harris
Let’s recap Trump Refuses a Second Debate With Harris, Good Move?
Terrible Responses
Trump wasted time disputing people left his rallies early.
And his abortion answer was a disaster. When asked if he would sign legislation banning abortion Trump refused to answer the question. He should have been prepared for this question.
The correct answer is: “Of course. This is a states rights issue. If I signed it, the Supreme Court would overrule it. I care about constitutional issues, Kamala Harris doesn’t. The same applies to student debt. This administration constantly flouts the Supreme Court.”
Trump was not prepared for any question.
Q: Why?
A: Trump has said repeatedly he does not need to prepare for debates.This is part of his arrogant, narcissist, know-it-all mentality. And he claims to be the world’s best negotiator.
There’s another hoot. Good negotiators don’t get baited into stupid answers.
But, But, But This Was Three-On-One Debate
Yes, the fact checking was totally one-sided. It was so bad that some claim ABC won the debate.
OK, the fact checking was one-sided.
But Trump missed a clean home run opportunity to point that out. He could have hit a home run against Harris and ABC by calmly asking ….
“How come the fact checking is one sided? Why didn’t you fact check Harris on Project 25? On the costs of tariffs?”
The rest of the fact checking was self-imposed. It was stupid of Trump to make controversial claims. Instead of talking about Haitians eating cats (whether true or not), Trump should have focused on immigration crime, diseases like tuberculous (now spreading due to immigration), and the fact that immigration demand is pushing up the cost of housing.
These are not after-the-fact assessments, these were my thoughts real time.
Trump was totally unprepared for any question. And every question was easy to have foreseen!
So don’t tell me Harris knew the questions. The local barber knew the questions. Everyone did.
This much is clear: Trump lost, the nation lost, and so did ABC.
Follow-Up Question of the Day
Would Trump have enough discipline to not make another fool of himself, repeatedly taking the bait?
If yes, he should accept the debate and repeatedly call out Harris if she does not answer questions. If not, he should decline and hope for the best.
Trump appears to be doing better recently but it is foolish to think he is way ahead or guaranteed to win. Nobody knows the true odds.
Are you really happy with Polymarket odds of 53.3 percent for Trump? If so, you’re crazy. 53 percent is little more than a tossup and not guaranteed to get any higher.
And if you think the odds are really 60-40 for Trump, there is no solid reason to believe that now.
There is one other condition I would like to see: Both sides should agree to answer every question and be interrupted by the moderator if they don’t answer.
I would not make that a condition to acceptance, but the more Trump is willing to prepare and directly answer every question, the more he should push for that requirement.
Just curious, what’s your answer to the lead question now?
No he shouldn’t. It will do him no good and only give the mainstream media Democrat Pravda prioganda cabal another chance to attempt to falsely fact check him alone and smear him.
Why would Harris do a debate with a republican propaganda network, knowing full well that the questions are designed to make her look bad and provide clickbait for the last 3 weeks before the election?
If that’s true, then why would Trump decline?!
Because he can’t really debate? All he can do is repeat the same grievances and conspiracy theories over and over?
Presidential debates have become more and more farce. Trump is wise to avoid another 3 on 1 debate. Why should Trump give Harris another opportunity to hide behind her reduced size podium and pretend to look presidential? Why should Trump give another team of biased pretentious moderators a chance to masquerade as objective to boost their careers? The battlelines are clearly drawn: It’s populism, America-first vs. globalist wokism. Let’s get to the polls.
Did FoxNews call Arizona early? There is your answer.
why bother?
this election is in the bag… Kamala & dems are going to get trounced.
Biden did a presser today where he said Bebe was coming over here to help with the storm, which gets my vote!!!
Trump should not be doing any appearances or debates on any main stream media outlet – INCLUDING FOX NEWS.
As a matter of fact he needs to break the MSM. He needs to go scorched earth on them. Take no questions from MSM. Do not include them in White House briefings. If they have to be included, DO NOT CALL ON THEM.
There are plenty of good independent journalists and citizen journalists. Let’s rely on them because the MSM cannot be trusted to provide unbiased political reporting.
It’s a valid point that a Joe Rogan interview would have far more impact than any MSM debate ever could.
Trump doesn’t have any debate skills; Harris is simply the better debater. So, no point for Trump to try again. In any case, his strategy now is not to persuade but only to maximize the turnout of his MAGA base by peddling the most obnoxious and obvious lies of a career full of lies. And this appeal to the most base instincts of the American electorate may well work.
You just described Harris.
This article is a perfect example of why people consider you a Never-Trumper, even though you plan to vote for him.
Turn the internet “way-back-machine” clock back 4 years here. You are more correct than you know.
His points are valid.
Trump only looks good because the Democrat candidates are so abysmally bad.
I mean, really?
Biden?! Hillary?! Harris?! Probably the three worst candidates in American history.
If Trump loses it will have NOTHING to do with the first debate (as no one remembers it), and everything to do with how many illegals and dead people vote. Regardless who wins the results will not be accepted, and the media will fan the flames of civil unrest. Besides, who says there needs to be a popular vote – https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/rule-of-law/can-kamala-take-the-presidency-without-an-election/.
Mostly agree — plus often ignored (even by SCOTUS) … State Legislatures should be holding the power, not a State Governor or certainly not a Secretary of State. Robert’s is too weak to stand up for the original constitution.
“Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors.”
I see no difference in their policies. Both support Israel. Ukraine lost so nothing to discuss. Both will continue printing large bags of money. States decide abortion policies not them. Illegal aliens will leave naturally when the economy crashes from the money printing just like 08 when there was a mass exodus. There will be no money for hotels, debit cards or funding NGO’s giving them free rides over.
exactly. it’s one big uniparty.
You have one error here. The illegals will not leave. If Harris wins it’ll just mean more $$$ printing to support welfare for the illegals.
Let me quote Fat Donnie’s campaign staff: “Are you crazy? Our candidate is a cognitively impaired old man.”
I found the debates to be inadequate regarding the role of the president and government. Until a candidate addresses the out of control government spending we all lose no matter which puppet is installed.
agreed, but “role of the president”? Spending is not the role of the president…
You’re asking the WRONG QUESTION.
Is Harris willing to debate Trump on Fox News?
No I am asking the right question
Refusal to debate is a talking point
I think that he should agree to Debate Kamala but only on the Condition that a FOX NEWS moderating team handle it and broadcast it. The imbalance between chose LIBERAL NEWS CENSORSHIP REGIMES has been totally unfair. Or have DEMAND that ALEX JONES be moderator. That would be a hoot!
Sorry Mish but you are missing it by a rather wide mark. Firstly who is anyone to determine that a yes or no is the wrong answer but even that isn’t the point. If I were Mr. Trump I wouldn’t bother either for the simple reason that I can’t control for the host of agency issues embedded in the moderators, the network management, network owners, network personnel manning the mic cut off, network fact checkers whispering in the ears of the moderators ad nauseam. The Deep State and its arm the prestige press is so aligned against a Trump Vance ticket that it is rather like asking a christian if it feels like a good idea to be part of the festivities at the coliseum today. Everyone knows it won’t be a fair fight but then again that’s the kind of fight everyone wants to see.
I don’t watch the debates, but i believe it was said that Trump did better in the second Trump/Hillary debate, than the first. I think he can improve his performance to some degree if he wants to. I don’t recall any comments that he tried to speak when the mike was turned off when the other spoke, in the last debate.
Since debates have become side-by-side SELF-PROMO’s, they are a waste. AND, I never fool myself into thinking that ANY of the promises are ever kept by these Professional Liars.
I would not giv the womyn the sweat off my…
That’s just nuts, what you said! AR_AR!
Q1. Under what conditions should Trump accept a second debate?
The Correct Conditions:
– Each Candidate bring 10 Questions with them.
– Flip a coin to see Who starts.
– Each Candidate will ask 1Q at a time, to the other Candidate.
– Each Candidate will have 5 Minutes to answer.
– Microphone Shuts Down after the 5 Minutes is up, No Exceptions.
– No Moderators are needed.
– Two Time Keepers will be used apart from one another, to ensure integrity.
– No pre-discussion OR after-discussion allowed on any questions before or after the questions have been asked.
– Opponents Microphone Shut Down During Answers AND Questions by the other Candidate.
That should do it, minus a couple Q’s I may have missed or explained incorrectly…
how about just let 2 adults, the candidates stand and have a debate without anyone else including moderators. i think that is preferable………think lincoln douglass debates with 2 morons instead…….we are idiocracy and pax dumbfuckistan. from bottom to top. democracy works perfectly. it always has since republic of plato was penned
I would love to see that!!
It will never be acceptable for one reason or another, and likewise with any compromise.
So what I propose, or something similar in nature, gets us as close to an uninterrupted debate, no questions known ahead of time debate, not a one sided debate, not a one sided moderator(s), Not an uneven debate, ETC…
perhaps. however, it’s the idiot box mentality of an empire of idiots. our potus is brain dead. his palace coup veep is an idiot and well dumpy is the perfect reflection of amerikans. a grifter and con man who spews nonsense 24/7. democracy works, since ancient greece.
No podiums, wireless handheld mics and they get to stalk around the stage like wolves.
i think that is fine, too. amerikans are such little children, when you scratch under the surface of bravado.
You do not even need to scratch under the surface with me: I am also a blowhard and PROUD to be one.
aye aye. a few of us out there that knows amerikans are just blowhards. all born on 3rd base and think they hit a triple.
YEPSIES DOODLES!
Stu, would you please quit making thoughtful comments on the sham that they call “DEBATES.” Your structure is the way to go!
Well neither Party can complain afterwards, so there’s that!
46 million early ballots requested. almost 3 million cast, and 1.3 million already recorded by party ID. looks like a blowout so far. for Dems. https://election.lab.ufl.edu/early-vote/2024-early-voting/
correction. 47 million early ballots requested
How does that compare to 2020?
go look at graphs of vote by mail trajectory for the past 30 years……….you will see a steady growth. news flash. the plague year was a freak year in most human activities, from world locking down to voting patterns.
Not the brightest analysis. Republicans are turning out more than usual for early and VBM. Democrats are severely down in raw numbers across the board for VBM and early voting. Cope harder.
don’t cope because i don’t give a rat’s behind which uniparty nit wit rules pax dumbfuckistan. it’s all comedy to me. especially the audience participation like you and millions of others. thank you for your service for entertaining me.
Trump is going to win 35 states at least, maybe 40. Your desperation is showing.
bwaaaaahhhhhhhhhh. i don’t give an F who wins. i’ll be voting libertarian.
Absolutely NOT!
1. He doesn’t need to, She Does.
2. I don’t Trust Any News Outlet.
3. Only Fools Rush In.
Why debate now? SS Harris has run aground and is taking water at a rapid rate now.
As the saying goes – “Never Interfere With an Enemy While He’s in the Process of Destroying Himself”.
Exactly! Even Her own party is disenfranchised by Her now!
China’s stock frenzy is an absurd distraction. Nothing has really changed
https://archive.md/TtKyZ#selection-2455.4-2455.77
The fact that Ms. Harris desperately wants a 2nd debate means her campaign’s internal polling is showing she’s behind in the electoral totals. Therefore Trump has nothing to gain by accepting another debate.
nope. she pounded him in first debate. he’s old and dumb. she wants more of that. he does not. simple.
Correct.
That still doesn’t negate my point. She’s losing now, why help her? The goal of the election is to WIN!
Trump already has this election in the bag barring any health issues. Why would he jeopardize winning the election on a debate that can only cost him votes, and not gain anything at this point? Kamala’s campaign self-immolated on 60 minutes. It’s over!
I don’t think he should debate, but if he does, I hope brings up Haitians eating dogs and cats again. That was hilarious.
Mmmm… hot dogs….
Trump stands no chance against a much more intelligent debater like Harris. At the same time, fact checking the hurricanes of lies that Trump unleashes by now routinely to satisfy his fans on Planet MAGA is impossible.
intelligent debater. lol fact checking…. love it. The kool aide is strong this week
Intelligent debater? Harris? I’m a Trump voter but willing to see the flaws in him as a candidate. You on the other hand are a cult member.
No. Trump is not a good debater. That’s ok. He will be a better President than Harris. He just needs to keep hammering away on the immigration issue and the economy. I understand that there’s controversy over some of his economic proposals such as tariffs, but I still believe he’s a net positive over Harris.
Screw a debate. Just run over and over a 15 second YouTube ad showing border crossings and inflation way up and then show Harris saying she can’t think of “one single thing” she would have done differently. Maybe stretch it out to 20 seconds to show Walz saying he’s a knucklehead and he’s friends with school shooters.
New conspiracy theory just dropped — Jews are causing the hurricaneshttps://forward.com/culture/662464/hurricane-helene-milton-jewish-weather-control/
Prove they’re not.
It’s called intelligence…
didn’t trump already Pre Blame the Jews if he loses. what a fella. what a mench. what a great con man.
and a debate proves what again?
It’s amazing how many people can’t think.
This is not about proving anything.
If Trump loses the election, it will be because of the first debate.
If Trump would have prepared he would have won the debate.
If he would prepare and stick to discipline he should debate.
If not he should decline.
This is about Trump, not Harris or moderators.
Therefore, he should decline.
Why would you want to go to the trouble to insult your audience to prove a point? Many people here are probably of equal or greater intellect than you, statistically speaking it is a given. You gain nothing and always lose someone or something.
While I agree, he didn’t help himself in the 1st debate, therefore your points about his lack of preparedness are spot on. However, if Trump loses the election, it’s primarily because The System has learned how to game the system and will have very little to do with his debate performance.
It would be absurd for anyone to think Harris didn’t know the topics & order of the first several questions of the debate. Given her consistent lack of coherent thought, her answers to the first 3-4 questions were absolutely scripted. That’s not a fair debate, but again I completely agree that Trump was very underprepared.
No, he should not debate Comrade Harris unless it’s done on FoxNews, which she will not agree to do. Trump & Vance have had several adversarial interviews that Harris & Walt have not. Again, they’re gaming the system. The same thing happened with Biden with his basement campaign,
Because it’s about Trump, there is no need for a debate. He wanted them, and She didn’t. Now She Needs them, but He doesn’t. There is only something to lose by another debate, and virtually nothing to be gained at this point in time.
She can move the needle, and needs to do so. He currently has the needle pegged in His favor. Why bother giving Her a chance to do something positive for herself!
As Her Democrat Partners would say: “Keep the Boot on Her Throat” until “After The Election” then let her breathe, but only to say: “I’m Sorry”
Alrighty then, Hold the debate at Chimney Rock, NC. Back to you, Leslie and Lester!
great points. i suspect he may consider a debate…. though who would monitor the debate this time?
a second debate ahouldnt be too difficult. the truth is always rasy to portray , liars can only hold their own for so long. perhaps, a debate longer? and have the VPs come in and second guess their answers? defend or deny them? what would this prove? Trump has a better team….. and yhose behind Harris, are helping her in secrecy?
Assuming Trumps internal polling shows him up big, not necessarily nationally but electorally, he doesn’t need to do another debate.
That is a rational comment and thus I salute you.
You gave a nice “it depends” answer
Answer is “no” to debate.
Of your 8 conditions, Trump could not meet 6 of them.
Trump’s worst enemy is his own mouth.
Add to that there is no way he’ll get a fair shake from the advocate moderators so stay out.
Sending Vance to debate The Giggler has some merit.
She may not be all that smart, but she definitely knows enough, to never take a debate stage with Vance on it! She would be chewed up, and spit out within no time at all. Maybe even be reduced to a pile of tears, because she would be so demoralized.
She gets agitated and annoyed by incompetence on a debate stage next to her, so putting her on stage with him, would be like her having a cage match with “Hulk Hogan” Just not happening…
Which is exactly why people answered “no”. There’s no maybe about it.
You don’t understand the Twitter MAGA crowd. They believe he won the debate and won the 2020 election.
if trump won, 2020, won’t this be his 3rd imaginary term? who takes over the MAGA cult suckers……to con? looks like Elmo Musk is panting for it. never enough. a great book btw
She lost the debate, would be a better way to frame it imo, and the 2020 election was close enough in some states to be questioned, but you have to let it go…
Hmmm… a dying country… one of the highest covid vax rates in the world…
Government deficit widens by more than expected, partially thanks to Health NZ and higher ACC claims costs https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/government-deficit-widens-by-more-than-expected-partially-thanks-to-health-nz-and-higher-acc-claims-costs/CHBBOCW3HVBOLJGGCHGSIJ6JVY/
When does NZ get austerity and an IMF bailout?
No he has little to gain and more to lose. IMO she failed to identify her platform in the 1st debate.
I agree with this comment but the point matters not to her supporters who are just as vague on reasons to support her much less any kind of platform, concrete or otherwise.
Only if the polls are close and it looks like he needs it. And only Fox with Hannity & Ingrahm as moderators. NO to Bret Baer/McCallum as moderators. Nothing else. Every debate for for the last 8 yrs has been 3 on 1. About time GOP gets friendly moderators. A Dem candidate has NEVER had to face a unfriendly moderator as long as I can remember.
Hannity would make Harris look smart in comparison. Keep that lummox away.
Not a big fan of Hannity either. But Baer is a Cheney type necon and hates Trump and would try to throw it to Dems. As long as its not Baer or McCallum moderating at Fox, I’m good.
The polls are close. No one can really say for sure who is ahead. The betting markets and polls are very close.
millions of votes already cast and tabulated by party. 47million early votes requested. see UF election lab, i posted.
That’s like saying Harris will win because she’ll get the majority of black votes. You have to look at individual data points in comparison to past elections, among other things.
It’s not 47 million requested but mailed out (see CA which mailed out a big portion of that). Those are not ballots submitted or even counted. Ballots that are cast will not be counted until the week of active in person voting begins (again in CA). Ask me how I know well it’s in the voter’s guide or if you go to your county’s registrar/recorders office you can access most if not all procedural processes regarding the handling of ballots and their counting. Parties do not have access or are given numbers with regard to voting numbers or totals until after voting closes on Nov. 5th.
Why not just get Paris Hilton as the moderator… invite Pornhub to sponsor… maybe some tranny freaks to flash their ball sacks while Pedo Joe strums himself in a chair in the corner … Hunter smoking his pipe nonchalantly…
Then .. to complete the clown show …wheel out stormy daniels and reunite her with trump
Fuck Yeah!!! Winning!!!!
ha ha ha. it truly is already idiocracy……….
It would be like drinking at the office Christmas party, all downside risk. If he were to “win” the debate, the Ds would scream against Fox, so really, how many votes would he gain no matter what?
Sadly, Trump is in as bad a shape as Biden, so the best he could do against the word salad is breakeven….. one couldn’t follow either one of them.
No,she should agree to a debate on X with Tucker Carlson. The time for half measures is over for her. She is desperate otherwise she wouldn’t lie about owning a Glock and continue the desperation by going on a porn podcast.
tucker needs his bow tie back. he seemed smarter than. he seems like a child now. that putin interview was telling at how weak he has become. he’s a grifter and light weight. imho.
Undecided voters do not exist at this point.
I am undecided which means I am an independent according to the media.
A write in for Ron Paul is my decision since 2008.
So technically, you are not a Voter. He has not, and is not running for office, so you can vote for Micky Mouse too, but it’s not a vote unless it’s for a contender on the ballot.
You are what is called a “Write In” which is a disenfranchised voter, who has decided not to vote, and in protest, write in a name of somebody not running for office.
Your what’s called a Non-Voter in technical terms…
i’m with you sunriver. see UF early votes already tabulated. around 15% 3rd party.
Definitely… he was hilarious in the last one. They’re probably afraid he’ll stroke out.
Any kid on the high school debate team could clean Kamala’s clock….but unfortunately Trump does not have the self discipline or control of said high school kid so…even though I will hold my nose and vote for him…I would say he should not debate again.
I will breathe deeply and smile wide voting for him. When both sides hate someone then you know he is the right person.
China’s CSI 300 plunges 7% https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-09/reserve-bank-new-zealand-slashes-interest-rates-recession-jobs/104449354
NZ slashes rates half a point after cutting in August….
I predict NZ will require an IMF bailout at some point … they are short on affordable energy and shutting down industries…
One of their major exports is dairy… that is energy intensive…
How ironic that half of Silicon Valley bought bolt holes there… it’s gonna be the first advanced economy to re-enter the stone age hahaha
I sold out at the top of the market last year … and moved everything cent out of that doomed trash can
They’ll all just move to Australia – no visas required….
I could imagine the Aussies shutting that down…
And Australia is exposed to this disaster so isn’t really a solution https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/overcapacity-and-price-wars
NZ is a wonderful place. why buy. rent.
NZ is a horribly expensive place to live… and it will get much worse … do not move there.. if you are there – leave asaphttps://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/nz-is-running-out-of-gas-literally
The exchange rate makes NZ cheap for US citizens.. and nearly as. Heap for Brits and Canadians.
NZ was never meant to grow up fast like Australia or Canada. Not much will happen there. Except a few farmers going bankrupt and the hospitality industry falling apart. Not sure if the IMF will need to bail out NZ. It’s GDP to debt ratio isn’t as bad as everywhere else.is it?
Totally agree he was not prepared and that’s exactly what I told my wife during the debate. As to whether to do one or not; don’t think it matters at this point.
No. Trump does not want to be anywhere near Harris to afford “They” an opportunity to take them both out and have an excuse to postpone elections.
Nope. Thanks