First Covid-19 Vaccine Given to U.S. Public
Sandra Lindsay, a critical-care nurse at Long Island Jewish Medical Center in Queens NY was among the First to Receive the Shot Monday Morning.
The first U.S. Covid-19 vaccinations outside of clinical trials began Monday, kicking off the most urgent mass immunization campaign since polio shots were rolled out in the 1950s.
A total of 55 sites nationwide had received vaccine shipments by around noon on Monday, said Gen. Gustave Perna, chief operation officer for Operation Warp Speed, the U.S. government’s coronavirus-response program. He said at a news conference that plans remain on track for a total of 636 locations to receive vaccines by Wednesday and an additional 581 between Thursday and Sunday, completing distribution of an initial 2.9 million doses. The vaccines are given in two doses several weeks apart.
The government has a reserve of 500,000 doses in case any problems arise, he added.
Vaccinations in California
Bloomberg reports Vaccine Meets New Cases in California.
California Governor Gavin Newsom looking on, a Kaiser Permanente hospital in Los Angeles began vaccinating health-care workers Monday, as the first 33,150 doses arrived in the state. The first round of Pfizer vaccine doses went to four California hospitals — in Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco and Eureka — with 29 more facilities scheduled to receive shipments in the next two days, Newsom said.
The pandemic continues to rage across the state, and Newsom noted that the number of doses that arrived Monday was roughly equal to the number of new cases recorded in the state on Sunday.
California will vaccinate its roughly 2 million health-care workers first, and hasn’t released its plan for giving doses to anyone else, except for residents of nursing homes.
Worst Covid Week Ever
On December 10, the Covid Tracking Project noted Our Worst Week Yet
By nearly all measures it has been a horrible week, a horrible month (nine days in), and a horrible year. The United States set pandemic records in all three metrics that measure the pandemic’s severity this week, recording a total of 1.4 million new cases and 15,966 deaths. Yesterday, states and territories reported 3,088 deaths from COVID-19—a record no one wanted to see—and the average number of deaths per day this week exceeded 2,000, surpassing the highest average we saw in the spring’s deadly first surge. More than 106,000 people are currently hospitalized with COVID-19.
If the patterns we’ve traced here since spring hold true, the worst is yet to come. Given the rapid increase in the number of new cases, we expect the metrics for hospitalizations and deaths to continue to rise in the coming weeks—especially if in-person gatherings over Thanksgiving led to increased spread of the novel coronavirus, as public health experts warned.
Vaccination Poll
A new ABC News/Ipsos Poll finds many Americans believe elected officials and athletes should be towards the back of the line.
Survey Details
- Large majorities of Americans say health care workers (91%), first responders (87%), the elderly (83%), and people with preexisting conditions (84%) should be high priority.
- Only 16% say elected officials and 9% athletes should be high priority.
- Two in five (40%) say they will get the vaccine as soon as it is available, particularly those over 65 years in age (57%).
- Almost half (44%) say they will wait a bit, particularly minority respondents (52%).
- Fewer than one in five (15%) say the will never get the vaccine, particularly Republicans (26%).
- Only about a third (39%) of Americans think states should make the vaccine mandatory for residents.
Other topics in past polls include George Floyd, slave reparations, and education.
Be careful when scrolling through. The previous poll was July 24, so some of the topics are very stale.
I have high hopes for this vaccination effort even though new variant mutations keep occurring.
Mish
Did not hesitate to push the propaganda here. Wow. What happened?
Are you going to write a big “THANK YOU” to President Trump for getting this vaccine done in record time?? 🙂
The problem is the Pharma/Governmentality complex doesn’t want any solutions other than lockdown||vaccinate 7 billion people (some of whom will promptly starve)||no human life without bioSecurity clearance.
Why would they recommend remdesavir which has adverse effects for 60% of the people and serious effects on 20% (liver/kidney damage) and NO benefit. (The 15 instead of 11 days in the hospital applies only to patients with ventilation but not intubation, not with mild, or moderate, or severe symptoms, but only those with moderately severe symptoms — a very tiny super specific bucket of patients)
Again, no group of people who are already immune ?!
More and more studies are coming out that show strong efficacy for Ivermectin.
A new study in Argentina, of 800 health care workers taking Ivermectin as prophilaxis, resulted in none becoming sick. 400 others were not given Ivermectin, with 238 becoming sick. A perfect score for Ivermectin users has not been achieved in other studies, but it is showing to be highly effective.
Ivermectin does look very promising. However, it wouldn’t be nearly as expensive as some other options, making it unattractive here in the Land of the Free™. Large pharma donors have to be taken care of!
Well, go buy some heartworm medicine from Petsmart and chew away….
….Ivermectin is routinely used to control parasitic worms in the gastrointestinal tract of ruminant animals. These parasites normally enter the animal when it is grazing, pass the bowel and set and mature in the intestines, after which they produce eggs which leave the animal via its droppings and can infest new pastures. Ivermectin is effective in killing some, but not all, of these parasites.[citation needed]
In dogs it is routinely used as prophylaxis against heartworm.[72]
Dogs with defects in the P-glycoprotein gene (MDR1), often collie-like herding dogs, can be severely poisoned by ivermectin. The mnemonic “white feet, don’t treat” refers to Scotch collies that are vulnerable to ivermectin.[73] Some other dog breeds (especially the Rough Collie, the Smooth Collie, the Shetland Sheepdog, and the Australian Shepherd), also have a high incidence of mutation within the MDR1 gene (coding for P-glycoprotein) and are sensitive to the toxic effects of ivermectin.[74][75] Clinical evidence suggests kittens are susceptible to ivermectin toxicity.[76] A 0.01% ivermectin topical preparation for treating ear mites in cats is available.[77]
Ivermectin is sometimes used as an acaricide in reptiles, both by injection and as a diluted spray. While this works well in some cases, care must be taken, as several species of reptiles are very sensitive to ivermectin. Use in turtles is particularly contraindicated.[78]
Research
SARS-CoV-2
Ivermectin has antiviral effects against several distinct positive-sense single-strand RNA viruses, including SARS-CoV-2.[79] On 10 April 2020, the FDA issued guidance to not use veterinary-grade ivermectin as treatment for COVID-19 in humans.[80][81]
Ivermectin inhibits replication of SARS-CoV-2 in monkey kidney cell culture with an IC50 of 2.2 – 2.8 µM, making it a possible candidate for COVID-19 drug repurposing research.[82][83] The doses used in cell culture would require 104 larger doses in humans based on this data, which does not look promising as an effective treatment for COVID-19.[84][85] Such high doses of ivermectin are not covered by the current human-use approvals of the drug and could be dangerous, as the likely antiviral mechanism of action is the suppression of a host cellular process,[85] specifically the inhibition of nuclear transport by importin α/β1.[86]
A preprint published in April 2020 claimed benefits of ivermectin in the treatment of COVID-19, but it was a retrospective study based on questionable hospital data from Surgisphere and was withdrawn at the end of May. The preprint led to several government agencies in Latin America recommending ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment; these recommendations were later denounced by the regional WHO office.[87] On October 12, 2020 Peru withdrew its authorization to use ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine as COVID-19.[88]
In November 2020 a meta-analysis found only weak evidence of benefit.[89]
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Heartgard Plus is a heartworm preventative that kills heartworms and helps to control and treat hookworms for dogs 51 to 100 lbs. Given monthly, it comes in a chewable tablet that you can feed to your pal as a tasty, beef-flavored treat. Head back to the dog park, reassured that your dog is protected from nasty parasites.
Uses
For use in dogs to prevent canine heartworm disease by eliminating the tissue stage of heartworm larvae (Dirofilaria immitis) for a month (30 days) after infection and for the treatment and control of ascarids (Toxocara canis, Toxascaris leonina) and hookworms (Ancylostoma caninum, Uncinaria stenocephala, Ancylostoma braziliense).
Possible Side Effects
In clinical field trials with Heartgard Plus, vomiting or diarrhea within 24 hours of dosing was rarely observed (1.1% of administered doses). The following adverse reactions have been reported following the use of Heartgard: Depression/lethargy, vomiting, anorexia, diarrhea, mydriasis, ataxia, staggering, convulsions and hypersalivation.
Drug & Food Interactions
In clinical trials, many commonly used flea collars, dips, shampoos, anthelmintics, antibiotics, vaccines and steroid preparations have been administered with Heartgard Plus in a heartworm disease preventive program.
Precautions
Heartgard Plus (ivermectin/pyrantel) is well tolerated. All dogs should be tested for heartworm infection before starting a preventive program. Following the use of Heartgard Plus, digestive and neurological side effects have rarely been reported. Heartgard Plus has shown a wide margin of safety at the recommended dose level in dogs, including pregnant or breeding dogs, stud dogs and puppies aged 6 or more weeks.
You cannot win. The aliens are going to keep modifying the virus!
DECEMBER 15, 2020
New coronavirus strain spreading in UK has key mutations, scientists say
Any particular species of alien ?
You must have missed by alien post a few threads back! I submitted this as a premise for a book/movie based on real headlines:
An alien race has been watching the Earth for centuries and has finally decided that they want to take over the planet. They want to use as little violence and destruction as possible, as humans will be used as food or slaves.
The aliens have powers of the mind that will allow them to control and direct humans as they please but first, they will need to introduce a parasite that will migrate to the humans brains where it will make humans docile and able to be controlled by the aliens.
But how do they best introduce this parasite into the humans? The parasite is not airborne, so seeding the atmosphere will not work.
They decide the best approach would be to give everyone a shot containing the parasite via a fake vaccine. But how to get everyone to accept the need to get the parasite shot? A “vaccine” seems to be the best approach. But humans will only accept the fake vaccine in the numbers needed if they fear that they will die or become very sick if they don’t take the shot.
The aliens decide to approach the problem in two steps. Step 1 will be to introduce a virus, similar to the Earth’s flu that will be more deadly to the most sickly & weakest members of the human race, for they are of little use anyway to the aliens. However, their steadily increasing deaths will serve to increase real fear and even create emotional panic as the affected numbers escalate. Once people are fearful enough, step 2 will be to administer the mind control parasite via the vaccine, which will be developed much faster than normal.
The initial point of focus will be to use health officials to ramp up fear as their pandemic models predict very large and ever growing death counts. Once the general public embraces this fear, hysteria and panic will ensue and the human public will call on their politicians to DO SOMETHING to save/protect them.
Messaging that the virus is in the air, on everyday items and is significantly infectious will be promoted. The aliens will prime the media that mask wearing, social distancing and hand washing will help reduce contagion. The increasing wearing of protective items such as masks, gloves, face shields and even full hazmat suits, promoted and reinforced daily will give a false sense of security to some but with the assist of the global media, will help to ramp-up the fear levels permeating the planet.
Politicians would most likely respond to calls to do something in the only way they can – by attempting to shut down commerce and physical public interactions, which for the aliens plans, will have the added benefit of paralyzing world economies, making people even more fearful, despondent and even desperate.
The idea that a vaccine will be a solution, making the virus ineffective, will be seeded in the planet’s media.
As the months progress, the virus will rage on. It will become the number one media story. While some will think that they have finally stopped the virus in its tracks, it will resurface again and again, with the aliens’ help, if necessary, to maintain the drumbeat for a “vaccine” solution that will actually deliver the alien control parasite to them. The daily increasing counts of infections and deaths by the media will help further bolster fear & panic.
A vaccine often takes 10-20 years to develop. But this task will be completed in no more than one year as the aliens secretly implant the knowledge necessary to significantly shorten the usual development time in selected researchers doing the vaccine development.
In 6-9 months with the help of the aliens, humans will “perfect” their vaccine. What will actually be happening though is that the aliens will have manipulated the virus so that it is now less dangerous, making the vaccine testing look as if it is working as intended.
In perhaps 10-14 months, the vaccine will be ready for use. A crash manufacturing effort will be undertaken to make billions of doses.
This is when the alien parasite will be introduced into the distribution chain. After a few months, the human race will be under alien control once the aliens broadcast a global domination code to turn on the parasite.
Those who refused to take the vaccine will be chased down and have it forcibly administered as unvaccinated humans (w/o the parasite) will not radiate a certain color on a particular wavelength that can be seen with alien technology. Resistance will be futile.
The book/movie ends with the fleet of alien ships landing all over the planet as humans meekly wave greetings to their future enslavers.
I was being serious though and possibly yourself, at least in the sense that “aliens” can represent an unknown. So for example China if I remember, and most recently Israel/Occ. P. apparently have officials confirming (or psyoping) that the earth is “visited”. You would also be aware of the quantity and timescale of the known universe, and so it would be fair to say those who deny the existence of extraterrestrial life are “guessing more than those who assume it”. Personally I have met various people with own experience, and others with “strong ideas” on this, reputable people. Being cynical but open minded, as most people should maybe I have my own perceptions, which are mostly all real possibility but on hold for want of any kind of fully reliable proof. The whole panorama I cross-check with possible use of manipulation by authorities.
So, well I read as parallel to your story :
The aliens are the cult/nation/military etc. who released and control evolution of virus and its reality. The parasite would be authority and central banking, where after vaccination the balance of gratitude is towards those “that saved everyone” who just happen to be in a position of financial power subsidising a wrecked economy from which all are dependent on their new largesse. They remove their mask and they are not pretty, but people don’t know what else to do but to thank them, indefinitely.
You know, you wonder how millions go to war to slaughter each other at the command of very few , or how public manias come about, mass psychosis, or how some societies linger decades in a miserable state without seeming to react . The world is a strange place, and so is mankind.
Story telling is like one step up from dreaming, in that it purposefully combines the unknowns that are clearly present into a format that can be related to, cathartic in a way. So for in my parallel, we also use aggregates like central bank, or government – we don’t know fully how they work and very very few do, even the most highly placed only understand the system reality but cannot know the result of their influence or use of it.
Either version or both or neither might be true. I know what I base my own on, that is how I observe the world around me and knowledge of power structuctre, but specifying intent and appointing accountability is much harder because the system is designed to hide those.The only thing that would concern me of your story is that if mine were true only, then it by comparison makes those actually committing wrong look not so bad, also opening those who believed yours to ridicule, even if only self-ridicule. So to be very severe I would have to ask if that were not your intent and if you are not actually working for the earthly “aliens” I allude to. I would have no way to judge your intent, nor the outcome, but at least you only present this as a story, so I think cathartic with a view to helping people’s ability at visualising their circumstance.
It’s a problem, people in power have a lot of ability at rewriting, re-presenting reality – it is their skill and they have large resources as well as public gullibility, corruption or limited comprehension, in their favour. So you present one version and they use it to their advantage. The only saving grace is that basically honest or decent people outnumber them vastly.
A flaw maybe in your story is that the aliens manipulate the virus to make it less dangerous – once released the control of it would not be easy by normal means, I suppose the release of less dangerous higher transmission virus granting immunity might have that effect, but not in a controlled way .
Enjoyed your lengthy, considered reply!
But no, I meant real aliens. I am a lifelong SF fan, have probably read many hundreds, if not a thousand SF books and watch the Ancient Alien TV show regularly.
The only way I could map what I wrote onto Earthly protagonists would be if a James Bond supervillain was behind everything because governments, in general, are too inept and stupid to pull off as big a public fear manipulation as we are seeing w/Covid.
Humans were the food animals of ancient advanced alien space travelers……who left us here to breed in case they might need to load up on protein on some future pass through our galaxy.
Now, unfortunately, we’ve evolved enough to become dangerous to the rest of the sentient beings in the universe, by our discovery of nuclear weapons and social media.
But they won’t send a virus to wipe us out….they just have to post enough fake news on Twitter and Facebook, and we’ll do the job ourselves.
Well i figured by now trump would of sent a majority of doses to states that support him.
This is a math problem, health care professionals are not only at risk of getting C19 but are the biggest spread vector outside of the home, so it should quickly lead to less death – even today 40% of deaths are from LTCs. Then once we get to the 26 million over 70 that should reduce death by 70%. Based on the numbers of vaccines it will be effectively over by March, but politically it will take to the summer to adjust back to some norms.
Wasn’t it outdoor dining that was the big problem?
If you’re inclined to heap scorn on those who are leery of these new vaccines, or Marin County anti-vaxers, or ardent followers of Robert Kennedy Jr., remember these words: “Single point of failure.”
I speak as someone who wanted to be included in a phase 1 trial, but they did not take people in my demographic.
Is your demographic: ‘expendable?’
I’d say yes. Which is why it made sense for me to participate in a phase 1. But YMMV.
Are there any dashboards yet where the public can track the vaccination efforts?
MSM.
Aside that and if you have a wallet, open it and you will either have or not have a piece of paper on which is written when you were vaccinated, and when you should be vaccinated again. If you have that piece of paper then it means you have succeeded in your effort. If you want the public to be aware of this, wear a badge declaring your status as well. You might also choose to advertise using other methods, for example online or by posting on a billboard in front of your property.
The fewer the people avoiding the vaccine, the lower the number of cases.
And the fewer the number of cases, the possibility of the virus dying out of circulation gets higher.
The longer the virus circulates, at even a low level, the possibility of a bad mutation goes higher.
If you had a 100% effective vaccine take by 100% of the people, there would be no virus left.
In that case, you would probably have to be vaccinated only once.
The more people who refuse to be vaccinated, the longer the virus stays around, and the possibility of needing an annual vaccine goes up.
Cats and dogs can get it and don’t forget that it came from the Wild and therefore it can come back from the Wild again. If it stays at a low level it may mutate into something worse but that is true of all the viruses and bacteria that love us.
And your point is ?
Give up?
My point is that covid is like other viruses and we will deal with it long-term as we always do with viruses that have an animal reservoir. Smallpox for example infected only humans so vaccinating everybody leads to smallpox’s demise. Covid is like many virus that infect different species so it requires a different strategy. Since it can’t be totally eliminated it must be contained. You have to use the same strategy as we use with the Flu. Epidemiology 101
Yep, you hit the nail on the head along with the pace of vaccine production will take years. But, we’ll eliminate 70-80% of deaths in short order. Also, when it comes to mutations, the likely outcome is less deadly. The Spanish flu H1N1 is still around and not nearly as deadly today.
the point is that the odds of this:
“the possibility of the virus dying out of circulation”
are slim and none. with “slim” being so low that it’s not worth considering that path.
like the 1919 avian flu, it’s here for good.
The only human virus that has ever been eradicated is smallpox.
The chance that this will happen for a Corona virus is very small, even wild minxes have tested positive, to say nothing of feral cats who don’t practice social distancing.
By many having German ancestry obviously.
My daughter who works in health just got her vaccine. Here in France I am in the age risk group but except for some vague announcements we haven’t heard much about if or when the vaccinations start. Sanofi which has a speciality in making vaccines ran into problems with theirs earlier this month. The trials showed weak results with most groups and bad ones with the older group so it’s back to the drawing board and they hope to have one in a year. Being American but living in Europe allows me to compare programs and outcomes with the virus itself and that is very interesting but something even more amusing (or depressing) comes from comparing the different news flows.
Just remember, both Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are EMERGENCY USE ONLY; The FDA itself says they are still UNAPPROVED !! There is no data on various endpoints such as
effect on nursing home citizens,effect on citizens already infected and recovered from Covid 19, and no data for serious comorbidities and immunocompromised citizens.
Rushed vaccines are never a good thing especially here, the IFR is 0.03% for those under 50. There are several examples of botched vaccine rollouts in history, easily researched.
EUA is simply phase 4 of the clinical trials on the Public, and I for one do not want to participate.
This isnt a typical vaccine. It is closer to taking a vitamin that alters your immune response.
It induces your own DNA to produce spike proteins. Nobody knows the long term ramifications. Let us start with a simple question: In which cells/tissue will the production of viral components take place?
[Nobody knows]
The one thing we do know about mRNA vaccines, though, is that mRNA particles are unstable, and that they can’t reproduce, so they are short lived in the body. Cells which absorb the mRNA will make spikes, which will trigger an antibody response. It will also trigger those cells to be destroyed, and that presumably is the reason for the flu-like side effects in the 24 hours after vaccination.
Hahahaha. ‘We are from the government and we are here to help… (especially since we granted ourselves immunity from prosecution).’
You don’t think that this qualifies as an emergency?
It’s an emergency only in some people’s minds.
“a vitamin” – hahah. It’s mRNA encode for the Covid protein spike encased in a PEG nanocapsule.
Good luck with your vitamin. How did Americans get so dumb?
I’m sure people of other nationalities are all up to date on understanding the role of nanotechnology in developing vaccines for RNA viruses.
Right.
For extra points, why don’t you draw out the structure and explain the synthesis of said nanocapsule, so us dumb ass Americans can understand it better.
By many having German ancestry obviously.
“a vitamin ” – haha.
It’s a mRNA encode for the Covid protein spike encapsulated in a PEG nanosphere.
Good luck taking your Vitamin.
How the hell did Americans become so ignorant?
If Saddam Hussein had anthrax in 2003 we all would have been dead by now. Yeah. Thanks for the cheap oil!!!
Starting so early in the day? Was there a sale on Reddi-Wip ?
A bit of historical context, last pandemic Spanish flu (1917-1918) approximately 675,000 casualties. Let’s see how we end up.
Of course most all the deaths will be pinned on hmmmmmm let me guess!
In 2019, if you had the flu and died of a heart attack, you died of a heart attack. In 2020 if you have covid antibodies and die of a heart attack, you died of covid.
1) That’s not how it works.
And your proof of this is what?
…CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza…
Almost all versions of flu are harder on the vulnerable than the young. In seasonal influenza epidemics, about 70% to 90% of deaths occur in people ≥65.
70%-90% of deaths at any time are people >= 65yrs.
BTW, looking at the most recent data (too bad TheStreet can’t import images now), if any age group is specially targeted by Covid19, it would be the 45-65yr group.
Sorry to break this to you but in 2019 excess deaths were attributed to the flu.
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Don’t know about elected officials but athletes should definitely not be at the front o the line for vaccinations. Currently there are over 300,000 americans and the death rate exceeds 3,000 per day. we have several vaccines developed in record time, a true achievement but the challenge will be in getting Americans to take the vaccine. Trump has embraced the anti-vax movement in the past. The movement is an extension of the anti-science and anti-authority gripping this country and promoted by movements like QAnon. To be succesful we’re going to need everyone or virtually everyone to get vaccinated. It’s not dicussed enough but the country will seriously need to consider mandating vaccination.
Scientifically, mandating vaccinations is the right thing to do.
However, science isn’t the only factor. Freedom is a factor too.
I’m torn….I’m glad for vaccinations but I also value my freedom of choice in this great country.
its more coplicated. by not self-vaccinating a person is exposing others to harm. Its similar to seat belts. All 50 states require children to get vaccinated before they attend public school. we will probably do similar for public school allow companies to have similar regulations.
But if those “others” were vaccinated, then can they still be infected?
Some people cannot take vaccines.
Others are further down the list and will not have had it.
You do realize that the fewer people avoid the vaccine, the lower the number of cases.
And the fewer the number of cases, the possibility of the virus getting out of circulation, the better.
The longer the virus circulates, at even a low level, the possibility of mutation goes higher.
If you had a 100% effective vaccine take by 100% of the people, there would be no virus left.
In that case, you would probably have to be viccinated only once.
The more people who refuse, the longer the virus stays around, the possibility of needing an annual vaccine goes up.
Got it. Makes sense, as we did that with polio, small pox, and others. I guess I don’t mind taking one more vaccine, but if this evolves into some kind of biennial ritual where a new virus comes out of the woodworks and must be fought with the same urgent measures, then I will be a tad suspicious…to say the least!
If we want to erradicate this virus, everyone needs to be vaccinated
Which is not possible, globally and synchronised, and not even counting virus reservoirs of other kinds. So what you are saying is that mankind must be vaccinated in perpetuity to keep the virus under control.
Politicians who recommend the vaccine should be first in line, in fact anyone who does. They can then shut up and go home. Aside that it should be offered to the most vulnerable first.
It would be against the protocols stated at the Nuremburg trials against the Nazis to force people to participate in a medical experiment.
Government mandating vaccinations is a difficult one for me because of the profit motive and the serious amounts of money involved. For schools, public and private venues to require, they should have that right. The risk I see is marginally needed vaccines being pushed by big pharma and required by the gov. for $$$. I think I read somewhere the vaccination course per child K-12 is like $15K these days much of it of dubious value. For Covid the need is obvious but I’d hate to see the precedent set for mandatory vaccinations.
I’m willing to believe Pfizer the they report that the vaccine. is highly efficacious….but remember that only time can tell us how long the immunity lasts…..
There is no way to rush that and know ahead of time…we will just find out over time.
I got an email from hospital I’m associated with and one from the Texas Dental Association.
The people getting vaccinated now are in what they are calling Phase 1A Tier1…..healthcare workers directing contacting the COVID ill…and some nursing home residents.
The TDA (and the ADA) are trying to get dentists assigned to Phase A1 Tier2……basically the second group…but from what I understand, no real determination has even been made at this point about who will be in that next group
We have a couple of difficult months ahead….I think it will be that long before we can get the vaccine
Operation Snail Speed.
Sorry for al the typos….I need more coffee, obviously.
Seems it s more likely than not, that this will have to be a yearly vaccine. They’ll probably improve it over time which can only mean less side effects and possibly better efficacy at least duration
I expect you might be right about that, as far as needing to keep tweaking the vaccine the way we do with flu shots…but the jury is still out. Given that this is the first vaccine ever that is supposed to work on a coronavirus….
A yearly COVID shot wouldn’t be an undue burden….not when the potential consequences are so high. I’ve always been a holdout on the flu shot….just because I never considered myself high risk for serious symptoms….in normal times I never get sick…..of course I always have worn a mask and gloves and eye protection….it’s always worked.
This year I think I’ll even get the flu vaccine….I’m not young anymore, probably ought to just get used to it. The hospitals are getting to the point that it’s hard to get credentialed without a flu shot.