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Trump Again Negotiates by Demanding Unconditional Surrender, TACO or War?

It appears Netanyahu is making demand on Trump again.

Nothing But Unconditional Surrender

There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER! After that, and the selection of a GREAT & ACCEPTABLE Leader(s), we, and many of our wonderful and very brave allies and partners, will work tirelessly to bring Iran back from the brink of destruction, making it economically bigger, better, and stronger than ever before. IRAN WILL HAVE A GREAT FUTURE. “MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN (MIGA!).” Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP
Mar 06, 2026, 6:50 AM

After touting progress towards a deal, Trump again shows he wants no deal.

He is back to the idiotic demand that led to war in the first place.

What Happened?

  • The most recent interaction was a phone call between President Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu that took place overnight (May 6–7, 2026, Israeli time / late May 6 US time), right after Netanyahu’s security cabinet meeting. ynetnews.com
  • Netanyahu publicly stated during the cabinet session that he speaks with Trump “on an almost daily basis,” that their teams are in daily contact (including that day), and that he would speak with Trump again that night. Israeli media (Ynet and others) confirmed the call occurred amid ongoing US-Iran negotiations and efforts to end the war. timesofisrael.com
  • The last direct contact was the phone call from last night / this morning. Their coordination remains extremely close and routine.

A Time for War

30 Years of Days Away

A Probable Response

Just Yesterday

Yesterday: “Operation Epic Fury Is Over”
Last Night: Trump spoke with Netanyahu

Giant Gamma Squeeze

Don’t Worry, Our Fertilizer Is OK

In the Lunatic Department

War Was a Defensive Operation

Who to Believe?

Higher Prices Are OK

Higher prices are the price we have to pay to combat woke.

Somehow I missed that. I need to make a note.

In case you missed it, please see The Real Reason Trump Cancelled “Project Freedom” After One Day

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Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago

Never Trust the Iranian Regime – And NO to a ‘Moratorium’

by Majid Rafizadeh

May 9, 2026 at 5:00 am

• Any agreement that would allow Iran a multi-year “moratorium” towards enriching uranium again would erase everything that President Donald J. Trump has so brilliantly and historically accomplished. Any “moratorium” is essentially no different from the catastrophic “sunset clauses” in President Barack H. Obama’s 2015 JCPOA “nuclear deal” – a short delay that will correctly be taken as a green light inviting Iran to resume enriching uranium for nuclear weapons.

• Politically, such a policy would be devastating for Trump. He would immediately be seen as the negotiating partner who desperately wanted a deal — any deal — just to declare victory and announce that he had “won.” If there is a “moratorium” even for 100 years, it is Iran that will have won.

• Inside Iran, there are still reports of repression, restrictions on internet access, and crackdowns on dissent complete with torture, forced confessions and executions. Why would a government that brutalizes its own citizens treat anyone else any better?

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/22510/iran-regime-moratorium

EmergentMind
EmergentMind
1 month ago

ZH transplant here. Looking for a better site. First glance seems pretty insightful, and mostly good comments.

Arthur Orwell
Arthur Orwell
1 month ago
Reply to  EmergentMind

Fair go. I found Mish on Zerohedge, or I wouldn’t be here. I don’t read the ZH comments (it’s more than enough to do to read the articles), but if they are worse than these, they must be pathetic. I don’t find the editorializing on ZH to be at all heavy, though I can see that the boys are city boys, and that they understand Austrian economics (for which my applause).

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago
Reply to  Arthur Orwell

ZH has good reporting overall. I don’t waste time with their generally foolish comments. Unfortunately, the quality of commenters here has also fallen over the past year or so as a slew of always whining leftist libs have infiltrated this blog.

Jack
Jack
1 month ago

If it was a defensive operation and not offensive as Rubio states, then if the US left the area the conflict would be over.

Maybe the US overstayed and does not belong in the Middle East.

Frosty
Frosty
1 month ago

Trump and Israel are not looking for peace, they are only interested in annihilation and genocide.
Look at Gaza, Lebanon, Iran and the closure of the flow of goods out of the Persian Gulf. Millions will starve in Western Asia because of the lack of fertilizer and fuel.

realityczech
realityczech
1 month ago
Reply to  Frosty

cry more… the mullahs will appreciate your tears.

Mike R
Mike R
1 month ago

Apparently shooting and blowing stuff up only rises to the level of armed conflict when it rises above a non-defined threshold of violence. Who knew????

rk syrus
rk syrus
1 month ago

Fox News reports that US Navy’s Littoral Combat Ships are shelling Qeshm Island and Bandar Abbas Ports! “This is NOT a restarting of the war”

USA forces kill entire parliament of Iran plus another 500 school girls. “No war here, move along.”

USA strategic nuclear forces drop The Big One and turn metro Tehran into hot molten glass “Absolutely no resumption of war, totally not!”

realityczech
realityczech
1 month ago
Reply to  rk syrus

I heard it was 500000 girls and 20 teenth million mothers and 2 quadrillion to the 3rd power of school teachers.

Quatloo
Quatloo
1 month ago

Will Trump strike Iran after the markets close on Friday?
The administration is awfully quiet while waiting for Iran’s response on the MOU proposal. Iran’s response is highly likely to be “no”, which was Trump’s response to Iran’s proposal.
More discipline than usual for the armed forces right now. It feels like an attack is coming.

realityczech
realityczech
1 month ago
Reply to  Quatloo

Good, let’s go by your feelings.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago
Reply to  realityczech

You’re particularly easy to trigger today… life got you down?

why
why
1 month ago

Have you guys seen Trump’s truth social post about the exchange between Iran and the US.

The level of maligned decorum was off the charts, especially for a president. I guess this must be a reaction to the politico article claiming Trump’s ego is the thing preventing a deal occuring between the US and Iran.

Trump still is giving Iran time to agree to the deal Trump and his administration is offering, but it must be done “fast”. Do note he said 3 US Destroyers were able to pass the strait.

Always under the illusion of a great and power America, even when reality shows differently. Please remember this fact when Trump starts claiming deals from the Chinese summit (as how he reacts to Iran after will be the true reality).

Tenacious D
Tenacious D
1 month ago
Reply to  why

“Don’t Worry, Our Fertilizer Is OK”

We don’t need to import fertilizer. We can just drive Orange Julius Caesar, Hegsdeath, and Cocaine Rubio around and have them open their mouths and spread their bullshit into the farm fields. Maybe just attach them to the bottom of a cropduster.

Frosty
Frosty
1 month ago
Reply to  Tenacious D

Nothing grows where Trump goes…

Frosty
Frosty
1 month ago
Reply to  Frosty

Agent Orange was almost as toxic!

CJW
CJW
1 month ago

You would think Trump would have learned not to listen to Nutandyahoo after this SNAFU. I wonder if Mossad has some dirt on him?

pokercat
pokercat
1 month ago
Reply to  CJW

Really you wonder? My guess is the have still pics, video, written material and audio by the ton.

CJW
CJW
1 month ago

The Christian bible says love thy neighbor as you would yourself. Nutandyahoo is a war mongerer.

A defensive operation? What are you doing over there Marco? Defending the US?

Bring the military back home out of harms way. That would be defensive.

Tenacious D
Tenacious D
1 month ago
Reply to  CJW

Yahoo’s people killed Jesus Christ.

pokercat
pokercat
1 month ago
Reply to  Tenacious D

And would again today.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago
Reply to  Tenacious D

The romans strung him up.

Jack
Jack
1 month ago
Reply to  CJW

I find it strange and offensive that a Jew is trying to lecture Christians about Bible scriptures. Jesus’ mantra is to love thy neighbor and to turn the other check.

Maybe someone needs to start lecturing Bibi on the contents of the Torah.

peelo
peelo
1 month ago

Trump is stumbling in circles, incoherent. I don’t believe any word out of his mouth. No one in the world (with any sanity or self-respect) should either. That leaves us in quite a pickle.

TEF
TEF
1 month ago

What a mess.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
1 month ago

https://the307.substack.com/p/israeli-paper-admits-that-the-mossad

Israeli Paper Admits That The Mossad Astroturfed The January Riots In Iran
Remember how the internet experts on Iran who post here assured us that the Iranian people were just itching to revolt?

todde
todde
1 month ago
Reply to  Feral Finster

meh. the thing that is common among almost all us little people across the world, we hate who rule over us.

if the timing was better and/or Trump could of had enough self discipline to keep his mouth shut, it could have happened.

the guards are corrupt. they eat up a lot of the economic opportunities.

the irgc has earned some respect these last couple of months. their standing with the Iranians i know went up. at least they’re competent. look at our grifting fool in comparison.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago
Reply to  todde

Were the roles reversed, he would have sold us out after the first sign of violence, and jetted off to a wealthy exile.

Quatloo
Quatloo
1 month ago

Iranian media reporting Iran’s military fired missiles at “enemy units” following what was described as a US attack on an Iranian tanker in the Strait of Hormuz. The enemy units sustained damage and fled.

Quatloo
Quatloo
1 month ago
Reply to  Quatloo

This Supposedly happened near Bandar Abbas and Qeshm Island. Reports indicate they may have been attacks by the UAE Air Force.

Or an Israeli false flag op.

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 month ago
Reply to  Quatloo

Yes. The US attacked. However, the US says this is not a breach of the ceasefire. Funny.

Quatloo
Quatloo
1 month ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Iran accuses US of violating ceasefire
A spokesperson for Iran’s Khatam al-Anbiya Central Headquarters says the US has violated the ceasefire by targeting an Iranian oil tanker moving from Iranian coastal waters in the Jask region towards the Strait of Hormuz, as well as another ship entering the Strait of Hormuz opposite the UAE port of Fujairah, according to Iran’s IRIB broadcaster.
In a statement, the spokesperson said the US also “carried out airstrikes on civilian areas in cooperation with some countries in the region on the coasts of Khamir, Sirik and Qeshm Island”.
Iran’s military “also immediately and in retaliation attacked American military vessels east of the Strait of Hormuz and south of Chabahar port, causing significant damage to them,” the statement read.
The spokesperson warned the US and its allies that Iran “will give a crushing response to any aggression… without the slightest hesitation”.

Last edited 1 month ago by Quatloo
why
why
1 month ago
Reply to  Quatloo

From what I’m reading the US says this, so far, doesn’t affect the ceasefire and was only done in self defense.

As of right now the US hasn’t started bombing Iran.

why
why
1 month ago
Reply to  why

I also want to add: this is twice now that American forces have experenced agression by Iran. And in both cases, the latest being just a few hours ago, the US has said that Irans actions don’t violate the ceasefire agreement.

Why is that? Is Trump that concerned for Iran, or is he waiting on China to tell him what the details of the agreement will be?

We have less than 24hrs from the deadline Trump gave to find out. As stated before if no bombing after this time we defer to the Chinese summit as to what Trump will accept or not for a deal.

CJW
CJW
1 month ago
Reply to  PapaDave

I would believe Iran before I would believe Trump.

Trump is a liar plain and simple. He cannot be trusted.

He has lost all credibility if he ever had any.

pokercat
pokercat
1 month ago
Reply to  CJW

And unfortunately the USA along with trump have lost all credibility. Although to be fair, looking at history and the treaties we broke we never should have had any credibility.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago
Reply to  PapaDave

They were using special “Peace Ordinance”.

why
why
1 month ago

IMO I don’t belive a deal will be made till May 14-15th. This is when Trump is to meet Xi in China.

This meeting, again IMO, well determine (1) the outline of the deal, and (2) if the US can accept the deal or not.

If a deal is accepted Trump will spin it as MAGA (even though it will put the US in a woring position economically) and use it as proof America still is the leader, and a country of great might. If no deal is reached Trump goes back to bombing.

The reason that I say this is because the 14 point memo doesn’t mention anything about the tolls that Iran will extract to pass the waterway. This is odd because this whole week Trump and his administration have been saying they want a waterway which is free to pass and without a charge to pass it.

About the nuclear material and facilities Iran has said over and over they are unwilling to budge, and nothing has changed except their oil wells are under the threat of becoming inoperable due to their lack of use. I don’t believe that’s something they will bend for because war has a way of destroying things from bombs and so in their mind the oil wells were sacrificed already (due to the potential of them being bombed) when they decided to dig their heals in and fight for their sovereignty.

Also the slow exit from the waterway that the US is claiming it will take if a deal is met is something Iran has stated is unacceptable. Iran wants the US out of the region period so to back away to the US leaving the waterway in stages that’s quite quite the fall a demand, no?

Many may not realize this but China is in the driver seat here and has supported Iran since the days of Obama to sidestep the sanctions that Obama and every president since has put on Iran. First it was gold for oil and then it moved to the Yuan for oil (that transition is important because one means full dependency the other doesn’t). Thus Irran has to transition to a vassal state of China in order to do what it’s doing today.

Take on the hegemon of Western power (America), literally, on its own and ensure the rest of the actors in the region are either kept at bay (Israel) or know the implications of their destruction if they decide to enter into the fray (everyone else).And that last part worked so well that the fear traveled to Europe proof is their refusal to help America.

So no I don’t think a deal will be struck until China makes hTrump understand that this is the deal offered (14-15th) and he has no say in what is being offered, but to say yes or no. Or he will continue to drag this out until he realizes he has no cards (my guess by year end or next spring).

I will be proven wrong if before the 48hr deadline passes (which started yesterday) and Iran signs a credible deal which none of the demands above are met. Or I’ll be proven right if the deadline passes and the US (and that’s key here – the US – because no one else doing the bombing here matters for this deal) doesn’t start bombing within 24hrs after the deadline passes.

If Trump rejects what is being offered at the summit in China the US will start bombing Iran after the summit. My guess is by June or July.

why
why
1 month ago
Reply to  why

It seems after I posted this it’s being reported the Saudis have lifted the restrictions on the US military to use their bases and air space.

I have to believe this is optics (for pressure) for now, but will be something used by Trump should he reject the deal offered at the Chinese summit.

It would be extremely irrational IMO to start bombing Iran till after the meeting with China due to how much damage this will cause to get a trade deal with China.

However, if I am correct this news points to the fact that it will take at least 6 months till Trump realizes he has no cards.

Frosty
Frosty
1 month ago
Reply to  why

China (XI) may simply cancel the summit and tell Trump to pound sand. He has squandered almost all the good and negotiating power will our great nation once had.

why
why
1 month ago
Reply to  Frosty

“He has squandered almost all the good and negotiating power will our great nation once had.”

As much as I agree with this statement (100%) I’m not sure there was much power and respect left of and for American leadership when Trump arrived on the scene the second time around.

Truth is to get to this point of failure geopolitically and domestically as a nation it take decades of corruption and looking away from both sides of the aisle. It takes decades of consistent funding, supporting, and weaponizing the opposition in other countries when you claim you belive in democracy and yet supprised when nations call you heretical and refuse to bow. It takes decades of grift and corporate lobbying to think it’s normal for individuals and families to go bankrupt because of medical care, or college, and that $7.25 an hour is still the standard for the minimum wage. And it takes decades of greed to believe and put corporations at the same level or above individual rights.

The true morally sound leadership of America that made America what it once was died long ago, and I doubt it will ever come back. Because the cancer of it all is too great, and the systemic shock we are feeling today is the signal to the brain that it’s longer receiving oxygen. And given the trashing about it looks, to me, that the brain will die soon.

Frosty
Frosty
1 month ago
Reply to  why

Trump is a whole new dimension of blatant war mongering…

pokercat
pokercat
1 month ago
Reply to  why

I think representative democracy (republic) as a form of govt can be restored but I think capitalism as an economic system is failing. I think many restrictions must be placed on corporations, the system must change or we will fail completely.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago
Reply to  pokercat

Infinite greed is the bane of all ideologies.

pokercat
pokercat
1 month ago
Reply to  why

What has got to be a defining issue for Iran is who will enforce any agreement when the USA breaks it in a few months or weeks or days?
They should want and need some sort of “Sword of Damocles” over America’s head.

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago

It really isn’t Israel that needs to worry about Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon, it is Europe. Read the rational here:

The Unthinkable: A Nuclear Iran

by Lawrence Kadish

May 7, 2026 at 4:00 am

It is time to think about the unthinkable.

For the sake of argument, let us consider a world where Donald J. Trump did not win the presidential election that returned him to the Oval Office in 2025 and, instead, Kamala Harris won that contest.

Given her progressive ideology, it is inconceivable that Harris would or could confront Iran’s race to create a Middle East empire under their control, much less exert any American influence to restrain Iran’s pursuit of nuclear weapons placed atop intermediate- and long-range ballistic missiles.

And that is where the nightmare emerges. Iran’s intermediate-range ballistic missiles, such as the ones it launched in March at the joint US-UK military base on Diego Garcia, can already reach Rome, Athens and all of Eastern Europe. Imagine the following: Iran confirms a successful intercontinental ballistic missile test, its warhead capable of reaching all of Western Europe and the UK. Suddenly the strategic guardrails that have governed peace and security since the Cold War are gone.

However, having nuclear weapons and using them are two profoundly different issues.

So in our nightmare scenario, let us then consider the thinking of Iranian leadership that believes infidels reign in those targeted cities. Accordingly, it’s time to go from threat to strike because they know a Harris Administration would be paralyzed when they do so. Not so the Israelis. So, while Tehran has sworn to destroy “the Zionist entity,” they are not suicidal. That leaves them plenty of other targets in which a nuclear strike will tell the world Iran now owns the Middle East on its terms.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/22501/unthinkable-nuclear-iran

Lawrence Bird
Lawrence Bird
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

Seriously – how much do you get paid by Mossad to write these things?

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago
Reply to  Lawrence Bird

Not enough!

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

imagine

Exactly. Cool story, bro.

Jon
Jon
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

The reality is that Iran has no interest in creating a middle east empire. Iran hasn’t invaded another country in centuries.What would it possibly gain? More mouths to feed? Secondly, per US agreements with NATO, the US is obligated to defend Europe from a nuclear attack by anyone. And here’s a secret that nobody knows: The UK and France both have nuclear weapons and could annihilate Iran. But its a fun story even if it is 100% divorced from reality.

William Jackson
William Jackson
1 month ago
Reply to  Jon

HAHAHHAH BS Bro

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago
Reply to  Jon

So then why does Iran want a nuke weapon, if it it would not protect them from?

realityczech
realityczech
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

rational thinking is jew journalism. ask any commenter here. they’ll tell you.

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
1 month ago
Reply to  realityczech

1st you capitalize “Jew,” unless you’re an actual antisemite.

Second, 60% of American Jews oppose the war in Iran, so your attempt to tie it to Jewishness is wrong.

Last edited 1 month ago by Phil in CT
Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil in CT

Second, 60% of American Jews oppose the war in Iran,…”

If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing.
—Anatole France

William Jackson
William Jackson
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

Islam is a political cult of hate with a desire of world domination wrapped in a brainwashing enslaving fake religion name

pokercat
pokercat
1 month ago

Islam like ALL religions are cults and fake.

Quatloo
Quatloo
1 month ago
Reply to  pokercat

Just like astrology or communism or Santa Claus, all you have to do is believe!

Dave Smith
Dave Smith
1 month ago

If this video is accurate and I have no reason to believe it is not, Iran may have much bigger issues that the US war, that being water for it 100,000 million people plus some others:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVtPKnBqdJg

After watching this, I have to rethink some of my thoughts about how this might end.

Dave Smith
Dave Smith
1 month ago
Reply to  Dave Smith

100 million

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago
Reply to  Dave Smith

This is not new news. I posted about the Iranian water issues months ago.

Iran is thinking about (or maybe will) move their capital city (Tehran) because they can’t deliver enough water to the city.

Trump should hit Iran’s desalination plants. That will bring a quick Iranian surrender!

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

Iran could return the favor across the Middle East. Dumb. Even Israel did not do that and they are hardly known for their restraint.

Last edited 1 month ago by Phil in CT
realityczech
realityczech
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil in CT

eat those capn crunches my man! your meds are on the way.

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
1 month ago
Reply to  realityczech

Your comments remain puerile and a waste of time. My 13-year old son is infinitely better at putting people down, so aping a teenager is really not working for you.

Last edited 1 month ago by Phil in CT
todde
todde
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

No, it will not bring anything quick, there is plenty of water to last for the duration of the war.

I will let you know if they start rationing it, but this is wishful thinking.

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago
Reply to  todde

chatGPT says the water situation in the capital is much more dire than you imply.

https://chatgpt.com/s/t_69fe49a184488191a3c69deb2198bc16

Jon
Jon
1 month ago
Reply to  Dave Smith

Iran knows it needs to increase its water supply and the cheapest way to do that is with desalinization plants. But those plants require massive amounts of energy, and Iran does not want to use its oil and gas reserves to produce that energy, preferring to sell it for foreign exchange. But Iran has significant deposits of uranium. So its plans are to build more nuclear power plants to power new desalination plants to provide water for its population. It’s been working for decades to learn how to enrich uranium for the needed reactors (to be supplied by Russia).

todde
todde
1 month ago
Reply to  Dave Smith

there is plenty of water in Tehran. It is about 5000 rials for a bottle. It is available on tap, like anywhere else.

gasoline, food and water are all available. gas is 11 cents a gallon American money.

Unemployment is an issue. Large steel plants and petroleum plants are idle or destroyed.

inflation is always an issue and is bad.

the main issue I hear about is lack of jobs.

Last edited 1 month ago by todde
todde
todde
1 month ago
Reply to  todde

and inflation. always inflation.

but Jesus christ, no one is walking around Tehran with empty water jugs. the shit on the internet kills me.

Dave Smith
Dave Smith
1 month ago
Reply to  todde

You’re saying Jojo and the flick are not passing on valid information, but there is only your word in your reply. Could you bolster it with some support?

todde
todde
1 month ago
Reply to  Dave Smith

No, youre free to pick and choose what you want to believe from the internet.

time will tell.

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago
Reply to  todde

Sounds much worse than you write. This article below is 10 days old and there is no reason to assume that the situation is not much worse as of today’s date.

11 cents US for gas is quite a lot when the it takes 1.8 MILLION Rials to equal a single US $1. That would equal about 200k Rials. According to chatGPT, the median earnings in Iran is between US $150-300/month!

But you post with an air of authority on the situation in the country. Unless you can explain where that authority originates from, it is safest to assume that you are just another internet dog.

Iranians Feel the Pain as Their Economy Descends Into a Death Spiral

Businesses are closing, unemployment is soaring and food is increasingly unaffordable

Margherita Stancati

April 28, 2026 10:00 pm ET

Quick Summary

War and a U.S. naval blockade have caused severe economic hardship in Iran, leading to more than one million jobless.

War has imposed a heavy cost on Iran’s economy: more than a million people out of work, soaring food prices and a prolonged internet shutdown that has slammed online businesses.

The question is how much more pain Iran’s leaders are willing to tolerate as they try to negotiate a favorable end to the war.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iranians-feel-the-pain-as-their-economy-descends-into-a-death-spiral-47dba669

BigBob
BigBob
1 month ago

For all you bozos who think it is simply a question of refusing to do Israel’s bidding, here is a primer for you:

Epstein was a Mossad agent whose job it was to create and collect sexual dirt on US politicians and public figures. Later they could use this data to blackmail US politicians into helping them with their dirty work. The Chief Pedophile of the United States was one of Epstein’s prime catches and now he must do whatever Bibi says or they will smear him with their photos/videos etc.

This is why we are where we are.

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago
Reply to  BigBob

And you don’t think that EVERY government, from the US to the Russias to the Chinese, etc. don’t all do the same thing and have operatives trying to entrap people into situations where they can be blackmailed?

Jon
Jon
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

Absolutely they do. Fortunately for foreign nations, their population wouldn’t elect sick, twisted, narcissistic pedophiles. Unlike Republicans.

pokercat
pokercat
1 month ago
Reply to  Jon

In 2024 almost as many “independent” voters voted for trump so although republicans are horrible people they have lots of company.

Last edited 1 month ago by pokercat
SteamBoi
SteamBoi
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

Sure other countries run ops here. However, name one Russian, Chinese etc billionaire who is an American citizen who owns/runs/controls major (media) corporations and government officials in the US? And now let’s list all the US citizen billionaires with direct ties to a certain country in the middle east.

pokercat
pokercat
1 month ago
Reply to  BigBob

My guess is they have definitive proof of rape and possibly an accomplice to murder. Who knows?

Last edited 1 month ago by pokercat
Tom
Tom
1 month ago

According to JD Vance, being woke is more cost effective and efficient than being anti-woke. Capitalism dictates more DEI, not less.

After all, there’s a lot of non-western European white Americans who have filed patents and other cool inventions. All of those items would belong to someone else, some other country, if it weren’t for the DEI we supported.

If America wants to be a white supremacy Nation, I guess there’s nothing to stop that from happening. But they will be much poorer for it

Arthur Orwell
Arthur Orwell
1 month ago
Reply to  Tom

This is such a sophisticated argument that I don’t understand it.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago
Reply to  Arthur Orwell

That does not surprise anyone.

Jon
Jon
1 month ago
Reply to  Arthur Orwell

Hopefully Tom will repost it dumbed-down.

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
1 month ago

meanwhile the other shipping route: The Panama Canal has competition. A new rail line crossing southern Mexico can move interoceanic freight in 72 hours, which is faster than the canal option. This transit alternative is creating new industrial zones along the train route. Rail demand is likely because the Panama Canal is currently experiencing delays due to less water feeding Gatún Lake, requiring ships to wait longer. It takes 26 million gallons of lake water to float one ship through the canal, 22 ships per day, down from 38

https://www.graphicnews.com/en/pages/45086/transport-mexicos-tehuantepec-isthmus-corridor

Tom
Tom
1 month ago

I’ve been following that for a couple years. Do you have any idea how long of a train you need to move a panamax?
5,000 TEU fits 2,500 rail cars. That’s 25 trains. That’s not trivial.

The Mexican corridor is not going to replace the Panama canal. As the Panama canal dries up, the Mexican corridor is the next best option

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago
Reply to  Tom

Get China on the job and build an alternate canal through Mexico. They are starting to build one in China now called the Pinglu Canal Project.

China is cutting a 134-kilometer canal so ships can enter deep into river routes, and the project shows how seriously Beijing is redrawing natural borders for trade

Published On: May 5, 2026 at 5:00 PM

China is pushing ahead with the Pinglu Canal, a massive 83-mile (134-kilometer) waterway designed to let ships move from inland rivers to international sea routes. The project is meant to speed up freight from the country’s southwest, cut costs, and deepen trade links with Southeast Asia.

https://www.ecoticias.com/en/china-is-cutting-a-134-kilometer-canal-so-ships-can-enter-deep-into-river-routes-and-the-project-shows-how-seriously-beijing-is-redrawing-natural-borders-for-trade/31701/

Frosty
Frosty
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

I give you the rare thumbs up!

This is the type of infrastructure project that the U.S. should be building instead of fighting Israels theocratic war.

Creamer
Creamer
1 month ago

Y’know I would have thought this Senate map was a gimme for Republicans but now I’m not sure. As long as gas stays up (it will) I don’t see any way they don’t lose house and senate. Hopefully we can get some impeachments going after that point.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 month ago
Reply to  Creamer

Senate is very difficult, even with all the help Trump is giving to the Democrats. We are close to where the ideal outcome will always be split house/sen lest we get more of this clown car legislating like we’ve had the last 16 months.

Triple B
Triple B
1 month ago

It’s like watching slapstick diplomacy: slip on a banana peel, pop up, shout ‘SURRENDER,’ fall over again. Rinse, repeat, call it a strategy.

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
1 month ago
Reply to  Triple B

When will Trump dump whiskey Pete?

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago

We have to go dumber…

Quatloo
Quatloo
1 month ago
Reply to  El Trumpedo

How about the winner of the UFC fight on the White House lawn on July 4 becomes the next Secretary of War?!

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago
Reply to  Quatloo

Too skilled and disciplined. We need a real loser.

pokercat
pokercat
1 month ago
Reply to  El Trumpedo

How about Lura Loomer she more of a man the wiskey pete anyway.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago
Reply to  pokercat

She is probably the stupidest nutjob in existence… she’s perfect to lead the Loony States of America!

CzarChasm Reigns
CzarChasm Reigns
1 month ago

It will be impossible to claim Word War Won…
when no one can trust Trump…
or his administration.

Anthony
Anthony
1 month ago

our fertilizer is just fine, the admin keeps shoveling it out of themselves.

this is beyond idiotic now i mean, it’s not even parody.

we need to stop blaming this on Israel. no one is forcing Trump to do anything. he does what is in HIS best interest. if Israel offered him something that is STILL on Trump. he doesn’t have to listen. He didn’t listen in 2016-2020.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 month ago
Reply to  Anthony

Forgive us for expecting the president to consider the good of the nation that elected him to pay attention to the good of the nation.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago

He does seem to remember his children every now and then.

TEF
TEF
1 month ago

Mind the 5 May to 6 May 2026 ACWI Global Equity Composite Daily Exhaustion Gap. Technicians and AI both are aware …
https://theeconomicfractalist.blogspot.com/

Brutus Admirer
Brutus Admirer
1 month ago

The Hoodlum video is a really good expo of what a lying warmonger Bibi Netanyahu is.

I just finished reading RISE AND KILL FIRST by Ronen Bergman about the some of the many thousands of assassinations Mossad has done. In it, even long-time Mossad director Meir Dagan said Netanyahu was an absolute snake.

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago
Reply to  Brutus Admirer

That’s an insult to snakes.

J K
J K
1 month ago

Trump, Vance, most in Congress and Trump’s brainwashed followers are destroying our country both within and around the world. Sadly, the Democrats are more focused on DEI, woke, gender change surgeries, freeing criminals, illegals, etc. Can’t forget they have their own wars that destroyed people’s lives in countries like: Libya, Syria and Ukraine. Trump continues the damage there. If there is a God, I hope he rots in hell like Biden, Obama, Bush and the other monsters that have ruled over us.

American is damned by both political parties aka as the Uniparty. Members in both parties are bought off by the Israeli lobbying group AIPAC and other members of the Zionist cult. If not the Zionists, then corporate America and rich business people also control the puppet strings.

Nobody standing up for the Middle Class and large portion of the bell curve that carries this country.

We’re screwed.

njbr
njbr
1 month ago
Reply to  J K

Where do you think the high profile of those “Democratic” issues came from?

Those issues were the means of advancing the autocratic agenda of the Republican party.

Who the eff cares about a swimmer who came in 5th place, tied with a trans swimmer?

Only because it was pushed by Republicans as the “crisis of civilization”

All to distract you from the dismantlement of democracy.

So who’s the tool now?

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago
Reply to  njbr

If nobody cares, then why do Dems push it so hard? I think most people’s position is “transition all you want if you’re 18+, but leave the kids alone.”

Last edited 1 month ago by Sentient
El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago
Reply to  Sentient

Where are they pushing it? I haven’t been hearing anything about it from anyone but right wing loons for years now.

Jon
Jon
1 month ago
Reply to  Sentient

Why do you think they are pushing it hard? Where did you hear that from?

shelly
shelly
1 month ago
Reply to  J K

go fuck yourself

Harrold
Harrold
1 month ago

This is worse than the Vietnam War. At least LBJ had concepts of a plan to win.

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
1 month ago
Reply to  Harrold

The difference between Vietnam and Iran is Trump knew how to get out of Vietnam.

Anthony
Anthony
1 month ago
Reply to  Harrold

well, 55,000 US soldiers died so no it’s not even close.

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago
Reply to  Anthony

When (not if) Trump re-attacks Iran and Iran does what they’ve promised – destroy oil rigs, refineries and ports through the Gulf countries, the impending worldwide starvation deaths will be baked into the cake. They’ll be in poor countries, though, so I guess they don’t count.

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago
Reply to  Sentient

My popcorn is getting cold. Let’s get it on already!

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago
Reply to  Anthony

We’re only a couple months in. Give it time.

Jon
Jon
1 month ago
Reply to  Anthony

Agreed, as long as there are less than 50,000 dead American soldiers, I’m cool with it!

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago
Reply to  Harrold

He also had control of his bowels, which is nice to have in a head of state.

Quatloo
Quatloo
1 month ago
Reply to  El Trumpedo
Brutus Admirer
Brutus Admirer
1 month ago

I question if the Vance video belongs in this post. Vance seems to be talking about consumers avoiding corporations employing woke policies, even if that mean paying more to buy from a non-woke company. Very different issue than this catastrophic war (which I’m told Vance opposed to the extent he was consulted).

Jennifer Scuteri
Jennifer Scuteri
1 month ago
Reply to  Brutus Admirer

When Republicans are being (rightfully) condemned, their go to is “Woke” or Transgender M to F playing women sports. Vance trying to blame “Woke” on high prices is relevant to the post as Vance is trying to divert claims that the Iran war is causing higher prices. Next Republicans will blame inflation on men playing in women sports. They are running out of ideas.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 month ago

I am still waiting for the GOP to propose enforcement mechanisms for proper gender bathroom usage. Without a manual genital inspection at all bathroom entrances, how will you know if someone is using the correct bathroom?

I guess one plausible explanation is they don’t GAF about the bathrooms and their usage, they just want to vilify and other people who aren’t just like them.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago

The word ‘trans’ triggers their moron minions deep in their ancient lizard brains. They can derail any discussion by bringing it up.

Last edited 1 month ago by El Trumpedo
Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

If it looks like Colonel Klink in a dress, it’s not a real lady.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago
Reply to  Sentient

Sgt. Shultz though…. Thiiiiiick…

Brutus Admirer
Brutus Admirer
1 month ago

Jennifer, you could not be more wrong. The date of Vance’s words is 19 September 2024. His words have nothing to do with Trump’s present war and are totally out of context for this post. Really kind of bad form by Mish.

In their proper context, his words are exactly right and actually above reproach.

Last edited 1 month ago by Brutus Admirer
Cyrano
Cyrano
1 month ago

This is no longer entertaining. This is comic book world now. The Israelis must be stopped from dragging our lives down into the gutter with their politicians. Enough! Something must be done immediately before Epic Fury part 2 begins. We are watching our own destruction real time.

Lisa)Hooker
Lisa)Hooker
1 month ago

US Secretary of War to announce Operation Blatant Hypocrisy.
It’s an umbrella operation to include all the other operations.

LM2020
LM2020
1 month ago

Vance hasn’t been sticking his head above the parapet for a few weeks now, trying to salvage his 2028 prospects. He needs to pull a Marjorie Taylor Green and quit and start exposing the fruitcakes running the show in Trumpland. This war is the worst kind of blunder, and the effects will reverberate for generations.

Harrold
Harrold
1 month ago
Reply to  LM2020

Vance answers to Peter Theil, not the Republican Party.

Jon
Jon
1 month ago
Reply to  LM2020

MAGA makes up 2/3rds of the Republican Party, and they are completely wedded to Trump. Vance has no choice but to suck up to Trump. And he has zero chance in 2028.

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
1 month ago

We need boots on the ground….

…in ISRAEL

Anthony
Anthony
1 month ago
Reply to  Joe Penny

oh right, it’s all Israel’s fault. How about blaming the politicians that listen to Israel? why do they never have any resposibility?? whatever Israel is offering them, they can and should refuse.

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
1 month ago
Reply to  Anthony

Listen to Israel?
They are owned by Israel.
JFK said no to nukes for Israel, and they took him out.

Anthony
Anthony
1 month ago
Reply to  Joe Penny

riiiiight, Israel took out JFK. what did suposedly taking out JFK do for Israel anyway?? It was the French that helped Israel get nukes, which is started working on at its beginning in 1948. I suppose you think we have Israeli drones in Area 51?

you hate Israel so much you seem incapable of fathoming that whatever Israel does to gain influence can easily be refused by saying no. Corruption takes 2 people.

Jon
Jon
1 month ago
Reply to  Anthony

2 people and whole bunch of evangelical voters.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 month ago
Reply to  Anthony

Yeah right, you think Trump can reject money and ripe young girls? He never has done that before.

Anthony
Anthony
1 month ago

right, sorry I expect too much of our politicians.

rjd1955
rjd1955
1 month ago

Trump got us into this mess and now he is trying to extract himself from his blunder and try to point to whatever outcome arises as a ‘victory’. He’s just trying to save face at this time and we, the US citizens are paying for his recklessness.

Last edited 1 month ago by rjd1955
El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago
Reply to  rjd1955

Iran just keeps handing him more Uno cards, and he keeps thinking that makes him the winner.

A stupid representative of a stupid nation.

Frosty
Frosty
1 month ago
Reply to  rjd1955

Trump is not trying to get out of this war. He is drawing it out to create as much damage as possible in the Middle East and Asia.

Spreading massive economic chaos, bombing deaths and regional western Asian starvation while supporting Israel is all that matters to Trump.

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