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Trump Says Indefinite Cease-Fire Will Not Last Indefinitely. What’s His Game Plan?

Believe it or not, we need to discuss “Sherman’s March to the Sea”.

Recap

  • Yesterday, with time running out on his latest bluff to knock Iran back to the stone age and destroy its civilization, Trump announced “we have been asked to hold our Attack on the Country of Iran until such time as their leaders and representatives can come up with a unified proposal.
  • Regarding Trump’s comment, the Wall Street Journal reported The Wall Street Journal reported “Trump Extends Iran Cease-Fire Indefinitely With Peace Talks in Limbo.”
  • In light of what Trump said, the WSJ headline is accurate. But today we have a clarification of “until such time as their leaders and representatives can come up with a unified proposal.
  • Today, the Wall Street Journal reports “President Trump will give Iran a few days to offer a peace plan, U.S. officials said, a sign that his cease-fire extension won’t last indefinitely.”

Game Plan for the Next Six Days

  1. Today, Wednesday, redefine indefinitely.
  2. Thursday, repeat threats to attack Iran. Say something like we won’t wait forever.
  3. Friday, threaten infrastructure. Give Iran until Monday or Tuesday.
  4. Saturday, repeat threats to end Iran’s civilization as we know it. Trump will say, I don’t want to do this but I will.
  5. Sunday (or Monday depending on the extension deadline), a Trump insider will place huge bets on the stock market going up.
  6. Monday or Tuesday, Trump will announce a peace talk announcement, or agreement by Iran, or some other set of lies or related nonsense.

Eventually, the market will tire of this game and steps 5-6 will implode. Delta hedging could get real ugly if Trump’s insiders have to unexpectedly bail.

Ohhh – Ahhh the Drama Builds

Morning Glory

Fox news is promoting a ground war. It relates to General Sherman’s March to the Sea, through Atlanta.

Please consider MORNING GLORY: Will President Trump go full Sherman in the war on Iran?

The famed Civil War general didn’t want to do what he did, but it was necessary.

“If we can march a well appointed army right through Jefferson Davis’ territory,” Sherman appealed to a skeptical General Ulysses S. Grant and President Abraham Lincoln, it would be “a demonstration to the world, foreign and domestic, that we have a power that Davis cannot resist.”

“I can make the march and make Georgia howl,” Sherman added to the doubters, Grant and Lincoln. Sherman was proposing something not done before in the long years of war to preserve the Union and free the enslaved — abandoning his lines of supply and living off the land his army would despoil.

War is cruelty and you cannot refine it,” Sherman said.

Lovely. Thank you Fox news for that fascinating ground troops warmongering infomercial disguised as a Civil War recap of Sherman’s March to the Sea.

Special Musical Tribute

I am very pleased to offer the above special musical tribute. “Peas, peas, peas, eating goober peas. Goodness how delicious, eating goober peas.”

I know that song and found the above video searching for it.

Q: How do you know that song?
A: It came up in high school history class and I remembered that line.

I did not know Tennessee Earnie Ford was involved..

Iran Fires on Three Ships, Escorting Two to Its Coast

Meanwhile, the Strait is shut. The Wall Street Journal reports Iran Fires on Three Ships, Escorting Two to Its Coast

Iran attacked three ships in the Strait of Hormuz and escorted two of them to Iranian waters, as tensions flared in the waterway.

Mediators scrambled to get the diplomatic process back on track, including arranging a possible meeting between Iran and the U.S. as soon as Friday, officials familiar with the matter said.

What Else Is On Trump’s Mind?

I am sure glad you asked, because this is news is critical.

I am pleased to report that Trump has provided all important details of New York Times Readership vs viewers of the Apprentice.

This must be really important because Trump posted it twice.

Related Posts

April 20, 2026: Are Talks With Iran Agreed to? Trump Says Yes, Iran Says No

Apparently, only one side needs to agree to have talks.

April 21, 2026: Trump Indefinitely Extends Cease-Fire. Congratulations Iran, It’s TACO Tuesday.

Peace talks are cancelled. But Trump extends the cease-fire anyway.

I was going to do a post asking readers how long that would last. But that idea was superseded by a Trump reversal in just one day.

April 22, 2026: Virginia Voters Approve Gerrymandering. How Many Seats Will Democrats Pick Up?

The probable answer is four, pending legislation.

Addendum. Everyone Knows

Truth Social: A RIGGED ELECTION TOOK PLACE LAST NIGHT IN THE GREAT COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA! All day long Republicans were winning, the Spirit was unbelievable, until the very end when, of course, there was a massive “Mail In Ballot Drop!” Where have I heard that before — And the Democrats eked out another Crooked Victory! Six to five goes to ten to one, and yet the Presidential Election in November was very close to a 50-50 split. In addition to everything else, the language on the Referendum was purposefully unintelligible and deceptive. As everyone knows, I am an extraordinarily brilliant person, and even I had no idea what the hell they were talking about in the Referendum, and neither do they! Let’s see if the Courts will fix this travesty of “Justice.” President DONALD J. TRUMP

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Webej
Webej
1 month ago

until such time as their leaders and representatives can come up with a unified proposal.

As usual more projection: It is the US that has no plan and no planning, no coherent aims, and no coherent narrative.

The disconcerting thing about Trump’s mental illness is not the outrageous lies and confabulation, but the fact that he no longer realizes he is harming himself and making a fool of himself. People tend to be guarded about what they say in public, aware of how other people might construe what they express.

Webej
Webej
1 month ago

America does not learn from experience.
For 250 years it has confabulated its wars.
The plan is always to liberate some nation where the people will rise up to welcome the liberators. Repeat 200× . Always nothing but a counter-factual gloss of civil religion.

Even the civil war as been re-imagined to comport with the religion of spreading “freedom”.

war to preserve the Union and free the enslaved

A D
A D
1 month ago

My estimate is at least 30% of Iran is extremist. So a culture change such as to effect its government is going to be very difficult.

Its essentially a militant Islamic cult that at least has an adversarial stance against its neighbors and the USA.

Remember George W Bush said it was part of the axis of evil, and Bill Clinton stated Iran exports terrorism.

So you’d have to occupy it to give enough confidence to the other 70% to take it over and try to reverse almost 50 years of theocratic rule.

But more tangible is trying to at least get the United Nations in there like Rafael Grossi to be everywhere there is radioactive material for nuclear energy or weapons applications. Even Grossi stated to the news media that he believed Iran was hiding material based on his observations.

That is the option if you don’t want to invade and try to have the US military recover all of the material and the associated equipment.

Jon
Jon
1 month ago
Reply to  A D

It’s interesting that we are continuously told by the government and media that Iran is a “terrorist state” run by “fanatics”. And yet no one ever provides a list of terrorist acts perpetrated by Iran against the American people. Do you have that list? Secondly, how is Iran “extremist” and Israel isn’t? I’m really interested to understand why my tax dollars are going by the billions to murder Iranian by the thousands. Please help me understand.

Anthony
Anthony
1 month ago
Reply to  Jon

you have the internet, look it up.

Israel is not extremist because it’s acting in self defense, Although lately it has been proactive and preemptive in this. but this is because when they haven’t been they’ve been attacked like Oct. 7.

people say Israel is too aggressive but also claim Israel wanted Oct 7 because they saw Hamas training right across the border and did nothing. So now, israel is saying well if Hezbollah is going to fire at us from southern lebanon and the UN is literally sitting and watching them do it instead of preventing it as required by the existing peace treaty, then they are going to be proactive and carve out a buffer zone that they themselves will enforce.

Unlike the Palestinians, Iran hsa no legit beef with Israel, it just hates it because they’re Jews and they control Jerusalem. Israel has never sought to invade Iran, take Iranian territory or anything like that. Iran funds Hamas and Hezbollah who want to eradicate Israel. that’s why. Iran is an expansionist jihadist regime, it’s literally in their constitution.

this isn’t black and white just because Israel and the US aren’t angels doesn’t mean Iran isn’t a terror regime.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
1 month ago
Reply to  Anthony

Israel is not extremist because it’s acting in self defense”

I suppose you think that Custer was acting in self-defense as well.

Jon
Jon
1 month ago
Reply to  Anthony

I have the internet and have looked it up. It does not record a single incident of terrorist activity by Iran against the American people. I assume you did the same and found the same result. It does list a few military (not terrorist) actions by Lebanese groups against the US military and says Iran may have been involved, but provides no evidence of that. But that isn’t terrorism, nor is it affirmed to be Iran.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
1 month ago
Reply to  Jon

One could easily argue that at least 30% of Americans are “extremists” and that America is in the grip of an extremist cult that seeks war and terror and has bad relations with its neighbors.

todde
todde
1 month ago
Reply to  A D

another Iranian expert.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
1 month ago
Reply to  A D

Another internet expert on Iran.

Webej
Webej
1 month ago
Reply to  A D

You are repeating a bunch of debunked lies launched for propaganda purposes, to demonize other countries that have not fallen in line with perceived US corporate interests.

Arthur Orwell
Arthur Orwell
1 month ago
Reply to  A D

It’s interesting how if you try to make a real comment, you get descriptions of your personality from people who have never met you.

I don’t know how you arrive at your estimate that 30% of Iran is extremist. I think things may look very different in Iran (Persia) from how they look to us in the English-speaking world. Then, too, people can be quite unhappy about how their country is being run, but still swing in behind the government in the event of an attack by a foreign power.

My impression has been that the Shia Muslims are more tolerant of other religions and factions than the dominant Sunni Muslims. Also that they treat their women better than the Sunni do. I know they don’t let women take over in the way that Westerners do, but that is just because they are not as wealthy and degenerate as we are. What we think of as women’s liberation is a sure indicator of a society that has reached its peak and is on the way down.

It does look as if President Trump has miscalculated in thinking that the Persians would rise up and overthrow their theocracy. Persia, it seems, is not like Venezuela. We all make mistakes. I think it is still reasonable to expect that a new government in Persia (now that the U.S.A. and Israel have pretty much liquidated the old one) will be more sensible about its international relations than the old one.

Peace
Peace
1 month ago

Trump’s game plan –

“I have a gut, and my gut tells me more sometimes
than anybody’s brain can ever tell me.”

Last edited 1 month ago by Peace
pokercat
pokercat
1 month ago

What’s his game plan?
He doesn’t have a fucking clue from one day to the next.
He is undoubtedly mentally ill.
Melania probably can’t wait till he forgets her and where she lives.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 month ago
Reply to  pokercat

At what point is continued support of Trump a sign of being mentally ill?

CEO of the Sofa
CEO of the Sofa
1 month ago

Trump isn’t going to reprise Sherman. It’s more likely that he will reprise CUSTER who was whacked by Sitting Bull one week before the US Centennial. Will the US get whacked by Iran just before the 250 year anniversary?

Jack
Jack
1 month ago

Who knows, it might happen the week before the anniversary again.

We would only need to wait 2 months.

The 2-3 day war was started almost 2 months ago. What’s another 2 months?

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 month ago

Keeping traffic in the Strait choked off would meet my definition of getting whacked by Iran. AFAIK they are going to keep it closed through midterms. Americans will lose their everloving ish.

David Heartland
David Heartland
1 month ago

Well, I agree that Elections are fixed but it is INCOMPETENCE and SOME RIGGING.
A friend of mine from Cal told me that his divorced wife admitted to concocting votes for GRUESOME (Newsom) and that he did not win by the margins stated. FIXING was what they did locally as well.

Tollsforthee
Tollsforthee
1 month ago

Ah, the ever-authoritative’proof’ of an internet poster’s friend’s ex-wife, with no detail about methods or location or date…

If my eyes roll any harder they might loop the loop!

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 month ago

David you can take your “evidence” to the authorities or cram it up your backside, but why are you posting it online, to make yourself look silly?

Jon
Jon
1 month ago

How do you know your friend didn’t just make shit up to look cool?

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
1 month ago

Stymied by that whole pesky “hearsay” thing.

Because, you know, California is chock full of frustrated Trumpers, baffled that they never seem to win statewide elections.

njbr
njbr
1 month ago

remember, the US is inflicting more harm on “our allies” in this “excursion” than “our enemies” ever did on the numerous proxy wars since WW2

he’s always willing to make other sacrifice for his delusions

njbr
njbr
1 month ago

Secretary of Navy has been booted out

What was he asked to do?

Storm the shores of Tripoli?

Break through the Strait, guns a’blazing?

Fire off some Polaris missiles now that the other services refused?

Last edited 1 month ago by njbr
Flavia
Flavia
1 month ago
Reply to  njbr

And him one of Trump’s donor cronies.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 month ago
Reply to  njbr

Make room for Hung Cao, I’ll leave the wordplay for others to explore.

Jon
Jon
1 month ago

Funny!

Anthony
Anthony
1 month ago
Reply to  njbr

yeah, it’s sus as hell.

he shouldn’t have been appointed to begin with he had zero military experience. he was a just a rich friend of Trump’s (which is probably redundant, he doesn’t have poor friends).

Rob
Rob
1 month ago

Trump does not have a game plan. It is utterly fascinating America was defeated by a simple, narcissist chaos agent.

Augustine
Augustine
1 month ago
Reply to  Rob

It takes narcissist to defeat one.

Last edited 1 month ago by Augustine
Six000MileYear
Six000MileYear
1 month ago

Trump is waiting for…
1 a clear leader in Iran to emerge.
2 more US Navy ships and missiles.
3 the IRGC to make a move the world finds unacceptable.
4 Iranian citizens to overthrown the present regime.
5 the regime to collapse due to infighting.

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 month ago
Reply to  Six000MileYear

Meanwhile

  1. The world is running out of oil and fuel
  2. Bankruptcies are rising (e.g. Spirit Airlines for reference)
  3. Countries are implementing rationing, restricting exports
  4. People are suffering and the number grows daily
  5. Starvation likely in many places around the world.
  6. No matter what happens, nothing will change (see 20 years of Afghanistan for reference, Taliban to Taliban).
Quatloo
Quatloo
1 month ago
Reply to  Six000MileYear

The only thing Trump is waiting for are his next orders from Netanyahu

George
George
1 month ago
Reply to  Six000MileYear

On items 1 to five is going to be a long wait, this red clown is going to go into the historical records as the more stupid person that ever lived…..

Flavia
Flavia
1 month ago
Reply to  Six000MileYear

The world finds the US unacceptable.

Fubar111111
Fubar111111
1 month ago
Reply to  Six000MileYear

You are so stupid you must be a Trump voter ^

1 a clear leader in America to emerge who has an IQ higher than 9 (none in sight)
2 there are no more missiles and ships, the US is out of them
3 the world is cheering for the IRGC to defeat the terrorist group called the USA
4 Iranian citizens support the Government more now than for years, rally-around-the- flag effect
5 the illegitimate terrorists called the US Government to collapse (likely soon)

Jon
Jon
1 month ago
Reply to  Six000MileYear
  1. The clear leader is the Ayatollah Khamenei.
  2. Okay, not sure how that helps.
  3. The IRGC was attacked by the US. The world thinks everyone has a right to self-defense.
  4. Never, ever gonna happen.
  5. Never, ever gonna happen. See 1.
MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 month ago

The Iran war hammers ServiceNow, this is the first crack in the S&P 500 juggernaut that will likely spread to the rest of the S&P 500. I wrote in another thread that S&P 500 companies get over 50% of their revenue from overseas. The idea that the US is isolated from this mess will be a rude awakening to many eventually.

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/22/servicenow-now-earnings-q1-2026.html

The software company said in its release that subscription revenue growth during the quarter “saw an approximately 75 basis point headwind from delayed closings of several large on-premise deals in the Middle East, due to the ongoing conflict in the region.

“Our full year guidance reflects a prudent assessment right now of the geopolitical environment,” CFO Gina Mastantuono told CNBC. “I definitely took a little bit of incremental conservatism because of the ongoing conflict in the Middle East and its potential impact on deal timing.”

NOW down 12.5% after hours.

Do worry, Trump will find a way to make things even worse.™ 

Last edited 1 month ago by MPO45v2
Arthur Orwell
Arthur Orwell
1 month ago

Sorry, must issue corrections to my post below. I meant “Semitic-dominated,” of course, referring to the U.S.A.
And when I said “this morning,” I was thinking in terms of my own time zone. It is rather late in the evening in your (American) time.

Arthur Orwell
Arthur Orwell
1 month ago

This morning Zerohedge has a piece saying that the extension that Trump has given to the Persians is the same length of time as it will take the third aircraft carrier to get on-site. Maybe that should tell us something?

I’m sorry for the Moslems in Israel, Gaza, and the Lebanon. I note that a Semitic country, Israel, and a seemingly Semitic-dominate country, the U.S.A., accompanied by a number of less significant Semitic countries (the Arab monarchies) seem to be beating the crap out of a country that claims to be Aryan (Persia). Maybe that should tell us something, too.

However, one must condemn the Persians for taking their religion so seriously. Religion is fine if it helps to unify your people for a fight that you are going to win. It’s not so good if it leads you to get into a fight you are going to lose.

Fubar111111
Fubar111111
1 month ago
Reply to  Arthur Orwell

Another Trump supporting moron.

the USA has already lost this war, and every day the magnitude of the defeat gets larger

the fact you can’t perceive this obvious fact tells us something about you – you are an idiot

pokercat
pokercat
1 month ago
Reply to  Arthur Orwell

“This morning Zerohedge has a piece saying that the extension that Trump has given to the Persians is the same length of time as it will take the third large floating target to get on-site”

Fixed it

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
1 month ago
Reply to  Arthur Orwell

However, one must condemn the Persians for taking their religion so seriously.”

So that must be why we must make aggressive war on these people. God forbid that people themselves decide how religious they want to be.

But I guess you have a point – MAGA Christians are raging hypocrites.

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
1 month ago

Spirit being bailed out. UAE too. Where does it all end now. Trump is a kleptocrat.
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/22/spirit-airlines-rescue-trump-administration.html

tezza
tezza
1 month ago

Iran already presented a 10-point plan. Did Trump not read it?

Fubar111111
Fubar111111
1 month ago
Reply to  tezza

read? surely you jest

they would have to make a 2 minute cartoon video explaining it for 5 year olds, then Trump might have a chance to understand it, which I doubt

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
1 month ago
Reply to  Fubar111111

Maybe a Lego video with a rap soundtrack? Be sure to use very small words.

why
why
1 month ago

What’s amazing to me is yesterday Trump suggested a ceasefire till Iran came up with a “unified proposal” which suggested an indefinite ceasefire and markets went down a little.

Today Trump says it won’t be indefinite, and will extend it only 3-5 days and markets go up.

And yet the price of oil is no where near the reflection of the reduced oil production in the Middle East, and the destruction of the production facilities thoughout the Middle East or the shortages many countries are facing right now.

It’s truly an upside down world out there, and no good can come when everything spins 180 every few days. And I thought the tariff dama, and the on and off BS of it all was bad. Well it was bad as it made our allies mad at us.

This situation will have the whole world turning on us, and should Trump actually do the bombing he says he wants to do the world will flank, and start putting daggers in the back of America.

No good will come from any of this, and America wont be victorious. There was a reaon why Mr President no President attempted this before you. They understood the consequences, and realized the costs of those consequences when you engage in a religious war. They unlike you, Mr President, couldn’t walk away from their humanity. I hope you wear this badge proudly.

Last edited 1 month ago by why
Jon L
Jon L
1 month ago

Apparently there is talk at the Pentagon of moving troops from SE Asia to the Gulf.

Xi would love to see that. Wonder what Trump Inc. can grift out of that arrangement.

MMchenry
MMchenry
1 month ago

Monsenuer “Brilliant” and his missing King clothes!

The dude is really ‘knitting with one needle” nut-so!

Jojo
Jojo
1 month ago

The game plan is (or should be) to kick the Regime/IRGC ass and remove them from power at ANY cost. This includes taking possession of the enriched uranium.

They are a clear and present danger to the safety of the world!

Last edited 1 month ago by Jojo
MMchenry
MMchenry
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

clear and present danger” with what, the “dust” uranium Trump claims (and will now sit on his ass about things which is why he be so chilling so quick).

His words are worth shit to anyone now. No threats = no effects. Wake us when a bomb goes off. You bet that’s Iran now too.

Fubar111111
Fubar111111
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

no, the USA/Israel clearly pose the greatest clear and present danger to the world, rogue out of control mad-dog terrorist groups posing as nations, every citizen of Earth is under direct threat from these extremist fanatics

Jon
Jon
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

“They are a clear and present danger to the safety of the world!”

How so?

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
1 month ago
Reply to  Jojo

The game plan is (or should be) to kick the Regime/IRGC ass and remove them from power at ANY cost.”

So go get your helmet and backpack and go, then.

You said ANY cost, so go pay that cost yourself, if it means so much to you.

Jon
Jon
1 month ago
Reply to  Feral Finster

LOL! You know Jojo is some chubby guy in his lazy boy watching Fox News and spitting at the screen in righteous anger. But I’m sure he has a big collection of guns to prove his manhood. But sign up to go fight people desperately fighting for their country and self-determination? Heck no, not going to put his a$$ on the line to make Iran great again.

TEF
TEF
1 month ago

Looking for an exit plan for Iran’s applied pretzel hold … https://www.facebook.com/quicklinecomedy/videos/he-beat-an-undefeated-russian-wrestler-with-the-most-painful-move-in-olympic-his/1969048917245265/

The Sherman approach fails to consider the planned IRGC asymmetrical missile destruction of the global billionaires’ and Gulf States local potentates’ extraction, refinery, holding, and transportation oil-and-oil-byproducts critical infrastructure as well as the region’s primary water source: the local desalination plants. Besides total Gulf States societal destruction, the global economy and its agricultural output would be crushed.

Monday 27 April 2026 will be the beginning of oil futures’ 2nd fractal and sharply higher rising oil futures, regardless of Truth Social TACO’s.

tooearly
tooearly
1 month ago

well, make announcement of peace send oil down: kaching!
Make announcement of war, send oil prices up: kaching!

Shelmas
Shelmas
1 month ago

I have never heard of Morning Glory, so I had to go read the opinion piece. Apparently Hugh Hewitt didn’t really pay attention when he read about the Civil War. If so, he would know that the “total war” phase of the Civil War actually preceeded Sherman’s March, e.g the utter destruction of the Shenandoah Valley by Sheridan which took place from September 26 to October 8, 1864, and likely inspired Sherman to write his letter on October 9, 1864. So Sherman did not start this concept. But more importantly, Sherman had a battle hardened army of about 60,000 men for the march through Georgia, and this number swelled to 100,000 men during the march through the Carolinas. Opposing him were about 10,000 remants of Confederate armies whose capabilities had been utterly degraded by 4 years of war. Short of weapons, short of clothes, starving, etc. So Sherman had at least a 6:1 numerical advantage over a completely outmatched enemy. How this would apply to the Iran war completely baffles me. Where does Fox News dig these idiots up from?

Flavia
Flavia
1 month ago
Reply to  Shelmas

Sheridan….who would later be shooting labor protestors in Chicago….that guy was a brute

SamR
SamR
1 month ago

We have the “C” team in charge when you need “A” team decision making. Well I guess you go to war with the team you got and not the team you wish you had. Elections do matter after all. I suppose that’s a positive.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago
Reply to  SamR

The A-Team arrives in a cool van, the C team rides the short bus with the chocolate flavored windows.

Quatloo
Quatloo
1 month ago
Reply to  SamR

How about we have Hegseth parachute into Iran and show us what he can do?!

dtj
dtj
1 month ago

I thought Trump said Iran no longer has a navy because he ‘obliterated’ it?

So this breaking news must be ‘fake’: “Iran’s navy said it has seized two cargo ships in the Strait of Hormuz and taken them to the country’s coast after reports that three vessels came under fire from Iranian forces.”

Not only is the American public being told lies, but they are only being told a tiny fraction of actual events that have taken place since the war started. The public is being kept stupid, basically.

American MSM = Pravda. They have the same amount of integrity. Zero.

Brutus Admirer
Brutus Admirer
1 month ago

Black-eyed peas are all that kept Southerners alive in 1865, Sherman’s Yankees having stolen or destroyed everything else. (They thought peas were for feeding animals.)

Sherman’s war on the civilian population left behind the last vestige of civilized warfare (attacking military targets only). Lincoln and Sherman recognized after 4 years of war that 90% of Southerners were so committed to a divorce (initially an amicable divorce) that only a genocidal approach would change their mind. It is something of which the ghosts of Lincoln and Sherman should be ashamed.

Under Netanyahu’s sway, Trump has turned into that kind of monster.

Creamer
Creamer
1 month ago
Reply to  Brutus Admirer

“an amicable divorce” over what exactly Brutus? Go on, say it for us all loud and clear now!

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 month ago
Reply to  Creamer

Over the right to self determination. Same thing you seem people arguing for on here all the time about ceding when their party is not in power.

Slavery in all it’s ugliness wasn’t going to last much longer anyway since automated farm machinery would have done away with the need for manual labor very shortly.

Last edited 1 month ago by TexasTim65
El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

Yet slavery persists in other parts of the world and to this day. Did they not get the memo?

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 month ago
Reply to  El Trumpedo

They didn’t get the machinery!

It’s much cheaper to maintain a machine that care for humans which require food/shelter/clothing all with the possibility of revolting on you at any time.

Last edited 1 month ago by TexasTim65
Creamer
Creamer
1 month ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

Oh so the Mexican neo-slave labor isn’t an issue then! Got it, my lettuce is just magically more expensive now that they don’t want to come here.

You’re absolutely right the south never really gave up slavery’s ghost. They’ve been sore losers who wrestled out from attempts of good faith reconstruction, and what do they have to show for it? Now their bloc is the poorest part of the union to this day, the last in education and healthcare, and actively in distress because they voted in a retard who gutted their farms and factories.

If the right to self determination is the right to simply leave the union whenever, I fully support the western and northern states giving the south a second chance to show everyone how great they’d be without ports to China, rail lines, logistics, or food from the breadbasket. I’m sure the south can feed itself on all that soy it can’t get to China thanks to Trump. Maybe they’ll nosh on the tiny herd of beef cows that remains, currently going for $15 a pound. Who needs a federal government to suck up all the welfare from (Louisiana and it’s neighbors certainly do) when you’ve got good old fashioned country boy self sufficiency?

See, it’s retarded thinking like this that keeps most of the south from seeing the success of the Carolinas and Virginia. Instead, delta states and Texas would rather have half their population living in trailers sucking that sweet sweet teat of government money they need to prop their unprofitable state up.

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
1 month ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

“Self determination” lol that’s quite a euphemism for human bondage!

People who practice human bondage do not deserve self determination. The entire culture and economy was immoral and criminal.

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TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 month ago
Reply to  Phil in CT

And yet that culture continued for another 100 years until the civil rights movement in the 1960s finally ended it (took another couple decades). The bondage part may have been gone after the war but the 2nd class treatment of citizens and other things didn’t stop at all.

So clearly the war wasn’t about slavery or else it wouldn’t have taken another 100 years.

The war was about whether or not the South could cede from the Union.

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Jon
Jon
1 month ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

It was about both. For the North, it was about denying states the right to secede from the Union. For the South, it was about the right to maintain chattel slavery.

pokercat
pokercat
1 month ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

No planting or harvesting crops just cleaning up, construction, sex with the “owner”, loss of any private actions. Yeah, you’d last about a week before you took your own life.

It isn’t possible to be as stupid as your post would imply.

Jon
Jon
1 month ago
Reply to  TexasTim65

Well, the North was just fighting for their own right to self-determination over the southerners, who didn’t believe everyone should have the right to self-determination either.

Quatloo
Quatloo
1 month ago
Reply to  Creamer

Lincoln was very clear that he went to war with the Southern States to prevent them from seceding, not to end slavery. In his own words: “My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it…
https://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/greeley.htm

MMchenry
MMchenry
1 month ago
Reply to  Quatloo

Yes, particularily at first Lincoln was agnostic at best about slavery until it became a viable cudgel over time.

Creamer
Creamer
1 month ago
Reply to  Quatloo

Except the southern states were leaving explicitly because slavery was on the chopping block due to high support of abolitionism. This argument of yours only functions when you cherry pick because everything out of the fire eaters confirms it was 100% about slavery and nothing else. Go on, please, go read the speech given before the symbolic firing on fort Sumter. I’ll wait.

The quote here is far from a gotcha, we know how Lincoln really felt and that’s well documented. He just couldn’t go outright and say it at this point in the war for fear of losing public support, that’s why you only see the emancipation proclamation after the tides shift.

J. Traveler
J. Traveler
1 month ago

Trump doesn’t even know what his game plan is !

threeblindmice
threeblindmice
1 month ago
Reply to  J. Traveler

That’s how he stays ahead of his enemies, don’t you know?

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago
Reply to  J. Traveler

Lie. Get his ass kissed. Threaten. Lie. Whine. Insult. Poop his pants. Get cleaned up. Lie. Complain. Lie.

That’s the plan, and he’s sticking to it.

R P
R P
1 month ago
Reply to  El Trumpedo

Think of it like a looping algorithm in a poorly designed computer program—over time, it will cause the system to crash and consume all available resources. This is a helpful reminder of why writing efficient programming is important! /sarc

Jon L
Jon L
1 month ago
Reply to  J. Traveler

I think he knows exactly what his game plan is. Make as much money as possible out of foreign bribes and market manipulation….oh and keep the Epstein stuff out of the limelight.

The other secondary chaos it creates is other peoples’ problem.

Derecho
Derecho
1 month ago

Meanwhile, 3 congressional reps leave office in April alone.

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
1 month ago

My goodness, we have achieved peak Mishtalk with a musical tribute, analysis, comedy and thoughtful criticism.

Obligatory 3-Star Mishelin award granted. I know it’s early but I’m just going to give the whole week a 3-Star Mishelin award to keep from being repetitive.

How you like them goober peas? Ironically, goober peas are what US sailors putting their life on the line for Israel are eating these days.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/04/16/iran-war-mail-packages-middle-east/89609308007/

The Dude Abides
The Dude Abides
1 month ago

How does an obliterated navy have the ability to escort ships back to their ports? /sarc

Last edited 1 month ago by The Dude Abides
El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago

These are obviously ghost pirate ships, duh.

Fubar111111
Fubar111111
1 month ago

Those are AI ships according to Trump.Maybe produced by ChatGPT.

Augustine
Augustine
1 month ago

Was the 🍊 ever abducted by UFOs? I suspect that he was and the aliens messed up with his internal organs and now his intestines are in his head and end at his mouth and his brain is at his rectum.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
1 month ago
Reply to  Augustine

What happens if the vigorous probing they subjected him to is what to blame for his persistent incontinence.

Sentient
Sentient
1 month ago

I don’t think he knows. He wants it over, but Iran is serious about its list of demands. I think he underestimates Iran’s resolve and ability to hold out. Hopefully he won’t go golfing with Lindsey Graham.

top gone
top gone
1 month ago
Reply to  Sentient

He just wants us to stop talking about the epstein files and we have now he will stretch it out as long as possible to keep us from returning to the molester and thiefs ttousands of mentions in the files. the shredders are working over time and bebe has copies so bend over working class the epstein class is in control

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
1 month ago
Reply to  Sentient

It ain’t Graham that I worry about. It’s Netanyahu.

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 month ago
Reply to  Sentient

Yes because he needs to move on to Cuba before the midterms when the Dems take over and prevent it.

john
john
1 month ago

It seems weird when I have to Wait……. for what Iran says …..before I really accept anymore of these flip flop stories now constantly coming from the Donald?

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Fubar111111
Fubar111111
1 month ago
Reply to  john

Iran has credibility, the USA none

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
1 month ago

worth repeating: The difference between Vietnam and Iran is Trump knew how to get out of Vietnam.

Creamer
Creamer
1 month ago

Now Mish my dear friend, I really don’t see the stock market bailing any time soon, not until oil shortages start making real problems at least. This is what you get when you have an out of control, unregulated market driving the entire economy. Prices are up and flying away, people nearly unanimous on the fact that it’s hard to get by, but wall street couldn’t care less!

Hey did you all hear Google is giving OpenAI another trillion dollars to hand to Oracle to hand to Google? Oh, you lost track of that kind of thing? That’s okay, just be here next week when Meta gives Nividia the very same bazillion buckaroos! To build what you ask? Infrastructure of course! Infrastructure nobody can actually point to doing nothing (and mind you, I work in this field) you can actually quantify for no customers in particular—Except the magnificent 7, who will be buying another pentrillion cents of something for some build out somewhere in Albuquerque.

With the situation being like it is, who even needs things like “oil” or “fertilizer”? If things get really bad these companies can easily invest in about a hundred billion dollars of potatoes or something that will feed us all when they eventually grow sometime about 25 years from now (according to company hired analysts).

Fubar111111
Fubar111111
1 month ago
Reply to  Creamer

don’t worry, you can order AI food, right from the prompt box, and they will e-mail it to you

Tony Frank
Tony Frank
1 month ago

Trial and error, sprinkled with lies and innuendo. There is no plan. Paint by number. However, TACO has been consistently compitulating on most days, especially “TACO Tuesdays.”

Stoic
Stoic
1 month ago

“Game Plan”- hahaha.

Augustine
Augustine
1 month ago
Reply to  Stoic

The game plan is to game his base and the mid term elections.

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