Trump insists the SAVE Act be part of a new reconciliation bill.
Trump on Collision Course with the Senate
The Wall Street Journal reports Trump Is on Collision Course With Senate Republicans
With just months to go until the fall elections, Trump has found himself at odds with Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R., S.D.) and other Republican lawmakers, who say the votes aren’t there for his top priority: the SAVE America Act, a bill that would tighten voting rules nationwide.
“It’s true that Republicans have been deferential to the president to a point. That doesn’t seem to have done any good,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R., Texas). “That is, if you support the president, that doesn’t mean he’s going to support you.”
Many Senate Republicans want the White House to provide more details on Iran, alarmed by what they have heard about the possible terms of a fragile peace deal, including easing sanctions and freeing up frozen cash.
“Right now Iran is ending up stronger than they started, and we’ve achieved none of the objectives originally laid out, so you might say that’s disappointing,” said Sen. Bill Cassidy (R., La.), who, like Cornyn, was defeated by a Trump-backed primary challenger last month.
“History demonstrates giving billions of dollars to theocratic lunatics who want to murder us is an exceptionally bad idea,” said Sen. Ted Cruz (R., Texas).
Late Tuesday, Cassidy and three other GOP senators—Rand Paul of Kentucky, Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska—crossed party lines to pass a nonbinding resolution to rein in Trump’s war powers.
Trump told reporters Tuesday that the discussion would focus on the SAVE America Act, which he has called critical to the GOP keeping its majorities in Congress.
The lack of progress in the Senate has led to calls from Trump to eliminate the filibuster or fire the current parliamentarian, Elizabeth MacDonough, for blocking attempts to lift the 60-vote requirement for the SAVE America Act and other measures championed by Trump. Thune has poured cold water on those ideas.
SAVE Act Math
- The SAVE Act is not a budget item. It requires 60 votes for passage. Zero chance of that, literally.
- Alternatively, the Senate could vote to end the Filibuster with a mere 50 votes. However, there are not 50 votes for that.
Implications
Multiple Republican senators remain opposed or highly skeptical of nuking/changing the filibuster for this bill:
- Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-SD) has repeatedly said he does not have the votes and is cool on aggressive procedural moves.
- Key holdouts/skeptics include: Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), Susan Collins (R-ME), Mitch McConnell (R-KY), Thom Tillis (R-NC).
- Recent procedural votes (e.g., advancing debate or amendments) have shown cracks — often landing around 48-51 with GOP defections.
Trump continues pressing hard for the filibuster change (or full repeal) tied to SAVE, but top Senate Republicans view it as a long-term risk (Democrats could use it later) and a distraction from other priorities.
Passing a new reconciliation bill is hard enough stand alone. Attaching the SAVE Act makes it impossible.
Thune has said there are not 50 votes and there aren’t. At best he has 48 and Thune has hinted he does not even have that.
Forcing a vote that Trump wants would fail and build further Senate Republican sentiment against Trump.
Defense Spending
The Hill reports Senate GOP balks at Trump demand to boost defense funding in third reconciliation bill
Senate Republicans say they are in no mood to back President Trump’s demand that Congress use the budget reconciliation process a third time to provide another $350 billion to the Pentagon.
“We don’t want to have another vote-a-rama. The last vote-a-rama about broke our backs. It was way too long. We ended up right where we started, and it’s frustrating for our own members,” said a Republican senator, who requested anonymity to discuss Republican reluctance to embrace Trump’s call for a third reconciliation package.
Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) said he supports more spending for the Defense Department but warns “it’s going to be an enormously heavy lift in this environment to get that done, particularly with just Republican votes.”
Cornyn warned that forcing vulnerable GOP incumbents to run through the gauntlet of another budget reconciliation debate and vote-a-rama will only make their reelection races more difficult.
“A lot of races that shouldn’t be in play are in play,” he said of Democrats’ growing chances of capturing the Senate in the midterm election.
Even before Trump called on Congress to pass a third reconciliation package, Cornyn warned there would be little chance of succeeding. “I don’t think there’s any way,” he said.
One big complicating factor to passing $350 billion for the Pentagon through budget reconciliation is that conservative budget hawks, such as Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), want to offset the entire cost of the bill with other spending cuts.
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) said that Trump’s call for Republicans to rely on budget reconciliation once again to circumvent Democratic opposition faces big hurdles. “I think another round of reconciliation is going to be very, very, very challenging.”
Murkowski noted that Senate Appropriations Committee Chair Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Senate Appropriations Defense Subcommittee Chair Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) both expressed their view at a hearing earlier this week that a third reconciliation package has little chance of passing.
Date Deadlines
On June 22, Politico reported House GOP races to make Recon 3.0 real
The House returns Tuesday with only eight legislative days before they break again for the July 4 holiday. If members want a realistic chance at fulfilling their self-imposed timeline for advancing the legislation before the end of July — when they pause work again for another five weeks — they need to move fast.
That means assembling, and then adopting, a budget resolution — the first step in unlocking the filibuster skirting power of the reconciliation process. It took Republicans months to advance such a blueprint during their two earlier reconciliation efforts this Congress.
Reconciliation talks also come as President Donald Trump is expected to join the Senate’s GOP lunch Wednesday, where he’ll likely continue pushing the chamber to pass his SAVE America Act or attach pieces of the GOP elections bill to the party-line legislation (an idea one of the bill’s biggest backers, Sen. Mike Lee, spiked Sunday).
Republicans involved with Reconciliation 3.0 discussions also warn they need to reach a final agreement on how to pay for the bill as well as what policy items will be included before GOP leaders can try to advance any budget resolution.
At this point, however, many fiscal hawks and at-risk incumbents are largely unhappy about how the discussions are coming along.
“It’s fake pay-fors for defense spending no one has fully agreed to and no meaningful reforms,” said one House Republican granted anonymity to discuss private talks.
Trump’s SAVE Act Demands
Truth Social: Great Job by hard working Scott Pressler on Fox & Friends talking about using the Filibuster, or Talking Filibuster, in order to pass THE SAVE AMERICA ACT, an 88% issue with ALL VOTERS. It must be done immediately. It supersedes everything else. MUST GO TO THE FRONT OF THE LINE. I, as President, will not sign other Bills until this is passed, AND NOT THE WATERED DOWN VERSION – GO FOR THE GOLD: MUST SHOW VOTER I.D. & PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP: NO MAIL-IN BALLOTS EXCEPT FOR MILITARY – ILLNESS, DISABILITY, TRAVEL: NO MEN IN WOMEN’S SPORTS: NO TRANSGENDER MUTILIZATION FOR CHILDREN! DO NOT FAIL!!! President DONALD J. TRUMP
Mar 08, 2026, 6:22 AM
That post is from March, but Trump has repeated that message continually.
Here’s one from June 17 where he reiterated the message.
The Republicans agreed with Dumocrats to remove very fair, and talented, William Pulte, from serving as Acting DNI in return for getting FISA approved by the Dumocrats. However, the Republicans moved so fast with the hearings of the Great Jay Clayton, current U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, that Pulte would be gone before the Dumocrats would vote on FISA. Now, the Dumocrats are saying they will vote against FISA — So, the Republicans wound up having fulfilled their commitment, but Dumocrats broke the Deal. In addition, the newly nominated U.S. Attorney, Jamie McDonald, must be confirmed and blue slipped. Because of the ridiculous views of Republicans on blue slipping (Dumocrats are often willing to nix it), I may not be able to get the extraordinary Sullivan & Cromwell Partner, Jamie, approved, and I don’t want to take Jay Clayton away from the great job he is doing until Jamie is in place. Therefore, to add a slight bit of intrigue but, for the Good of the Nation, and the People of our Country, I will not approve FISA without THE SAVE AMERICA ACT going along with it. Not complicated, actually, the Republicans fell into a trap. Regarding the approval of our Great Patriot, Jay Clayton, we are cancelling the Senate Hearing RE: DNI today, and will not be going forward until Jamie McDonald is approved to be U.S. Attorney. In the meantime, Bill Pulte will remain as the Acting Director of National Intelligence. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP
Jun 17, 2026, 1:54 AM
Overall Political Math
- The SAVE Act is not a budget item. It requires 60 votes for passage. There is zero chance of that, literally. Alternatively, the Senate could vote to end the Filibuster with a mere 50 votes. However, there are not 50 votes for that.
- Senate Republicans “don’t want to have another vote-a-rama.”
- Republicans involved with Reconciliation 3.0 discussions warn they need to reach a final agreement on how to pay for the bill. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), want to offset the entire cost of the bill with other spending cuts.
- Republican Senators Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, Rand Paul of Kentucky, Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska crossed party lines on Tuesday to pass a nonbinding resolution to rein in Trump’s war powers. Their support for more military funding is questionable. That alone would leave Republicans one vote short.
Trump Howls at the Moon
Despite the fact that there are not 60 votes to pass the SAVE Act and there are not even 50 votes to change the rules, Trump insists the SAVE Act be part of new reconciliation bill.
All the while, it is hard enough to pass any reconciliation bill stand alone.
It is unclear if there are 50 votes for anything, let alone something as politically toxic as the SAVE Act.
Trump is howling at the moon trying to change its orbit.
In Support of Keith Self’s Position
I 100% support the proposal by @RepKeithSelf.
If Trump holds firm, the SAVE Act wont pass so nothing will.
I favor no more spending on anything, especially the military. If you run out of weapons you can’t fight a war. If there is no funding, Trump will be limited in restarting the war in Iran.
So please hold firm Keith Self. If a majority does, nothing will get done. And that’s great. However …
My General Rule
My general rule in these matters has always been “expect more of this for more of that”. Republicans always cave in and give Democrats more social spending in return for more military spending.
That rule has never failed in close matters. In fact, the longer Republicans bicker, the more money Democrats eventually get.
Is This Time Different?
Forgive me for entertaining the idea that this time may be different (a position I have never taken before in such matters).
If a reconciliation bill passes with Democrat support, I plead temporary insanity in advance.
However, it is still possible Republicans can get to 50 votes for something, even if I cannot say what that something is (other that it will not include the SAVE Act).
If so, Trump will sign it. He’s a hypocrite, liar, pedophile protector, warmonger who lost control of the Senate and lost a war in Iran.
If Reconciliation 3.0 passes, it will be the last piece of major Republican legislation for the entire rest of his term.
Republicans will lose the House and I believe the Senate too in the midterms.
Court Strikes Trump’s SAVE Order
Not to be confused with the SAVE Act, on June 2026 I noted : Court Strikes Trump’s Executive Order on SAVE Voter-Verification System
The League of Women Voters prevails over Trump in court.
The SAVE Act is an attempt to get the same thing via legislation.
Attempt to Steal the Election
Q: What is the point of Trump’s obviously illegal Executive Orders?
A: The same as the SAVE ACT. Trump wants to rig the election to steal it.
If this was not obvious before, it should be now. Trump lost on six points, as predicted, an admittedly easy call.
Trump will lose on restricting mail-in votes too, and the SAVE ACT is dead.
Trump will win on counting ballots that arrive after election election day, and I support that ruling.
This month, I expect the Supreme Court to rule on Birthright Citizenship.
For discussion, please see Supreme Court Birthright Citizenship Arguments Suggest 7-2 Minimum Against Trump
Justice Kavanaugh hammers Trump’s lawyer, setting the tone.
Regarding Trump’s Supreme Court loss on tariffs, I called tariffs correctly getting each justice correct. For discussion, please see Supreme Court Strikes Trump’s Reciprocal Tariffs In 6-3 Vote (I Told You So)
Forgive me for bragging, but I got every justice correct.
I called the League of Women Voters case correctly, and I will get the Birthright Citizenship case correct as well.
It will be another well-deserved face slap smack to the face of Trump, and it’s coming up soon.
Trump is frantic to pass the SAVE act because he knows that it is his only hope of maintaining Republican control of at least one house of Congress, and to avoid impeachment. A House impeachment with a subpoena power could expose all his criminality, starting with Epstein, insider trading, theft of Venezuela oil revenue, and personal use the Justice Department as an instrument of revenge and intimidation, just for starters.
The SAVE act is his long-shot, last chance to pervert the US electoral system in order to maintain the secrecy of the criminal behavior he is desperate to hide.
Trump’s use of the Justice Department is pretty typical of presidents. The enrichment he and his family have received through bribes and conflicts of interest is off the charts. Go after that.
Not even close. Give some examples to buttress that statement.
Trump is going after Comey, E. Jean Carroll, Jerome Powell, tat Federal Reserve Governor, putting his personal lawyer in charge, creating a slush fund for his rioters, and on and on.
Trump Abruptly Cancels Signing Ceremony for Bipartisan Housing Bill
The president says the bill is ‘of minor importance,’ adding he wouldn’t sign it until Congress takes action on his voter-eligibility legislationBy Philip Wegmann and Siobhan Hughes
Updated June 24, 2026 11:13 am ET
I haven’t studied the bill but anytime Congress “fixes” housing it usually ends up worse.
Interesting that Trump is daring congress to override his veto of the bill, which they have the votes to do
As long as Congress remains technically in session, the bill passes automatically in 10 days. So really it will depend on Congress and congressional leadership. Right now there is no plan to adjourn.
Thousands of Words here, Mish and Co. Look, I am into reading about this BULLSHIT, but I do not BUY into the CIRCUS that has us (wants us believing) that they are IN DEBATE about key issues. COME ON now. This is the shit that causes people to believe that “their vote counts” by Courting Voters with false debates.
NOPE.
They get together, UNI PARTY STYLE (INTENTIONAL) and put on an act which is then Conveyed to us on a CONVEYOR BELT that we can describe as:
“Steaming Pile of Shit” followed by “COWPIES” followed by “BEAR DUNG” followed finally by Trump’s Undie-bundle of steaming-stinking shit like no other.
We have all learned that the TO-AND FRO nature of our engagement in the Hormuz is there to distract us from the TRUE THEFTS going on which are ear-marked by Steaming piles of bullshit running by us on Spinning plates.
– Where the voting system is designed to be rigged, designed to facilitate fraud, cheating and stealing.
> You are correct about that. Just look at the silliness they call actual voting. “Mail In” is the best and most often used choice for cheating. You can also just pay people a couple bucks to vote for what you desire. You can take blank ones and turn them into whatever you desire. No checks, no scrutiny, no rules followed, no chance of getting caught.
>> Both Sides sit by and watch it occur, as long as they get there pick when they want one. It’s a shared way of getting your way 100% of the time. I give your request of 1-8, and you give me my request of 1-8. We can meet up for drinks later and hash out how we want to utilize this gift that just keeps on giving. Sickening is what it is…
Total evidence-free bullshit. Fucking lies.
Oh look the regarded fellow found a friend
“Where the voting system is designed to be rigged, designed to facilitate fraud, cheating and stealing.”
When The Electronic Voting Machines First Introduced – They Were Proved Easily Hackable Within Minutes – Stories Disappeared From The ‘Operation Mockingbird’ Media System.!
Hello mister PRESIDENT, are you a “BREAK” from signing “stuff” to be HERE on this BLOG?
“A: The same as the SAVE ACT. Trump wants to rig the election to steal it.”
LMAO!
As I keep on repeating and nobody ever addresses: in ALL civilized countries of the world (and even less civilized ones like judge Sparkle Sooknanan’s Trinidad and Tobago) proof of citizenship is one of the documents you are required to show to be able to vote, photo ID being another one.
The ONLY banana republic idiocracy, which has the gall to tout itself as “The Leader of the Free World” and which pretends to defend and “export democracy” worldwide, where the voting system is designed to be rigged, designed to facilitate fraud, cheating and stealing, is the United States of America.
What a fucking joke of a country. Thank God this unbearable idiocracy is going down and its nefarious influence on the rest of the world is going to keep on diminishing…
You and I are on the very same page. Hell, in Europe where we live part time, WE cannot stay a day past 90 days in Schengen Countries unless we pay fees, PROVE OUR CITIZENSHIP and MONEY SOURCES, along with proof of a place to stay (with receipts), our Plane tickets back NLT than 180 days or less and so on!
Perhaps the lack of evidence of significant cheating has not raised alarm bells sufficiently enough to change the system. Florida did not change its horrible voting system until the 2000 cluster fuck. Changing the system now is an obvious attempt to rig the elections. Let’s pick up the debate next January.
The “lack of evidence” as demonstrated BY WHOM?!? The ones who have been winning rigged elections and have ensured that the system is resilient to changes as perfectly proved by the Uniparty resistance to adhere to the standards followed by the rest of the world?!?
Remember all of the allegations of unprecedentent voter fraud in 2020? Judges REFUSED en masse to even allow the start of judicial proceedings!
Can you explain to me why you should even wait to have proof of fraud, cheating and stealing when your system is CLEARLY UNIQUELY designed to allow them?!?
Let me repeat once again that in ALL civilized countries of the world (and even less civilized ones like judge Sparkle Sooknanan’s Trinidad and Tobago) proof of citizenship is one of the documents you are required to show to be able to vote, photo ID being another one.
Your answer is the answer that one expects from a citizen of an IDIOCRACY.
LMAO. By the people who keep claiming elections are rigged, or that they have proof of election fraud, and then show up in court and openly admit they have ZERO evidence of fraud. They are, in fact, the actual fraudsters. The people who are claiming there is widespread fraud in American elections are lying sacks of shit.
Basically all cases in 2020 were dismissed with the utterly absurd motivation of “no standing”, no matter what party presented them and with no indication of who the fuck is supposed to have “standing” in electoral fraud cases (one would think it should be any and all of THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA). The FACTS WERE NEVER EXAMINED, NEVER ADJUDICATED.
Don’t confuse them with facts.
Edited out my reply because on second thought I had most likely totally misunderstood your comment, LOL ;P
There was the classic case, a son came forward and told the press that somebody had voted for his dead mother. Wow, they finally had proof that dead people were voting. So they investigated. They caught the person who had voted for his dead mother: him. He did it. Her son. The guy who told the press somebody voted for his dead mother. Because he thought it was okay to cheat so Trump would win. Lol.
How do you prove to an idiot that he is an idiot? You can’t. Because he is an idiot.
ALL civilized countries of the world (and even less civilized ones like judge Sparkle Sooknanan’s Trinidad and Tobago) require proof of citizenship and a photo ID to be able to vote.
You live in a corrupted system which will not self-correct and will resist as much as possible attempts at correcting it BECAUSE IT IS A CORRUPT SYSTEM.
The SAVE act is one of the few good things that the latest baffoon that you idiots elected as President of your idiocracy tried to do and you ignorant idiots are against it!
It’s simply beyond words…
“The ones who have been winning rigged elections and have ensured that the system is resilient to changes as perfectly proved by the Uniparty resistance” – The ‘Epstein’ Island PDF ‘Club’ Member’s.!
What bills have the Congressmen and Senators you voted for entered to address these issues? Nothing? And yet you keep voting for them.
I have (legally) lived and worked in the US, got a “Green Card”, even got married there, and was actually in the process of getting citizenship while I
saw the writing on the wall, changed my mind and decided to leave that idiocracy (and a pretty good paying job which was destined to be outsourced to H-1B Indians anyway, as it actually happened years later).
So no, I have never voted for either side of the Uniparty, which is a Uniparty in large part thanks to your utterly RIDICULOUS voting system which is put to shame even by judge Sparkle Sooknanan’s Trinidad and Tobago.
“As I keep on repeating and nobody ever addresses”
That has been addressed numerous times, no one gives a sh!t what the rest of the world does. The rest of the world doesn’t allow gun ownership, you want to go there?
The rest of the world has theocracies, monarchies, communism, etc. Do you want to go there?
We have a CONSTITUTION in this country and it spells out who are responsible for elections – it is the individual STATES. The only joke here is you that doesn’t understand that.
Here you go nitwit:
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S4-C1-2/ALDE_00013577/
Article I, Section 4, Clause 1:
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
By its terms, Article I, Section 4, Clause 1, referred to as the Elections Clause, contemplates that state legislatures will establish the times, places, and manner of holding elections for the House of Representatives and the Senate, subject to Congress making or altering such state regulations (except as to the place of choosing Senators).1 The Supreme Court has interpreted the Elections Clause expansively, enabling states to provide a complete code for congressional elections, not only as to times and places, but in relation to notices, registration, supervision of voting, protection of voters, prevention of fraud and corrupt practices, counting of votes, duties of inspectors and canvassers, and making and publication of election returns.2 The Court has further recognized the states’ ability to establish sanctions for violating election laws3 as well as authority over recounts4 and primaries.
“That has been addressed numerous times, no one gives a sh!t what the rest of the world does. The rest of the world doesn’t allow gun ownership, you want to go there?”
Idiotic strawman from a retard citizen of an IDIOCRACY.
The fact that you do something different from what most other people do does not automatically imply that it is a good thing or a bad thing.
BUT if you don’t consider yourself the ONLY democratic country in the world you HAVE to look at what ALL of the other countries that you consider democratic do and they ALL require proof of citizenship and a photo ID to be able to vote.
And there is also another thing to think about your gun rights strawman, that you being the citizen of an IDIOCRACY didn’t think about: the democratic countries of the world ALL used to allow guns until relatively recently while NONE have EVER had your utterly ridiculous voting system.
Gun rights are something that the people of a country can democratically choose to give, limit or revoke, the voting system is instead the most basic and fundamental function of a democratic country and has nothing whatsoever to do with any other right.
If your joke of a country isn’t able to perform in a fair, transparent and honest way the most basic and fundamental function of a democratic country (ELECTING YOUR POLITICAL LEADERS) your country is not a democratic country, period!
“The rest of the world has theocracies, monarchies, communism, etc. Do you want to go there?”
We are talking about what your joke of a country ITSELF considers fellow democratic countries, its “peers”, its “friends and allies”, the fellow “Free World” and all of the rest of this fucking bullshit. YOUR bullshit.
Genuinely stupid.
Geuinely retarded.
But what else to expect from a nation of increasingly deranged fat morons..?
American’s Are Products of the – ‘Dumbed Down Educational System’ – ‘Fallin Away Church’ – ‘Boob Tube ‘MockingBird’ TV Programming’.!!!!!!
Hard to Break Out of Decades of Programming – Most Don’t Want To.!!!!!
‘Operation Mockingbird’ – CIA/Mossad Controlled ‘Mockingbird Media’ System.!
ugly truth. democracy works perfectly. violent imperialists elect senators and presidents to deliver that. worked in ancient roman republic and has worked in usa. democracy works. time to look in the mirror. we will go the way of other crumbling evil empires. yawn.
Come on, please, and no offense meant but this “Democracy” talk, throwing the term around loosely, is just unfounded blubbery. We are a REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC where ‘decisions’ are supposed to be made by the chosen few that we HIRE by VOTER FRAUD.
The fraud in the system has nothing to do with voting. The voting part is pretty well handled. The fraud in the system is in who decides to fund people to run for elected offices in the first place.
“The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”
― Winston S. Churchill
I agree with Mish. Thank goodness for gridlock. too bad it’s not gridlocky enough to freeze spending at a far lower level.
Wow, I want to smoke some of that shit that you found. SHEESH. There is NO Gridlock – – they “pretend” to debate issues that were settled, with the Best Cubans and finest Scotches behind closed doors with HIGH-FIVES and shoulder slaps in unison after the “debate points” are all worked out.
My Dad served in “intelligence” (He urged ME to use quotations marks) in WWII leading up to the D DAY invasion.
EVEN BACK THEN, it was all a sham. Hitler was a “model bad guy” who went haywire.
MY BIGGER POINT:
My Dad’s best H.S. friend (“E”) in Illinois, (HS in 1930’s), was a Republican Senator in 1962 (I will not say who it was) and E said to my Dad and I was there:
“G, it is ALL hall of mirrors.” “A 100-person ring Circus.” NOT including the Pres, and his side-kicks.
AND THOUSANDS OF BRIBERY FOLKS.
Later, Dad, in 1979 before he died told me to stop wasting gas when “voting.” He used the words, “IN QUOTES” before he uttered the Devil V word.
That is why I am cynical.
Did your dad just die very recently? A few posts up when replying to Rando you said
“Rando: wrong. My Dad is 87 and for the VERY FIRST TIME, after arguing with him for 50 plus years (I am old, Too): he said to me on the phone: “Yeah, ‘the guy’ is IN on it all!” FINALLY a sparkle of light. He has voted R since his first voting days back in the 1950’s.”
So is your dad dead after telling you to stop wasting gas voting because he knows its all a sham or is he still alive and finally realizing after 50 years it’s all a sham and Trump is in on it?
A whole lot of conflicting things you are writing here today that don’t make a lot of sense…
Tim, he’s over 65, that alone explains most of the rant/confusion.
I got it years ago. “Our democracy” is a scam. The Republicans always want expensive defense spending and tax breaks for their likely voters. The democrats want hand out programs for their likely voters and craziness like open borders and free sex operations for deviants. What does that leave me? The bill!
not a scam. the people in democracies get exactly what they want. they elect themselves in fact. not myth. haven’t any of you ever run for school board or local offices? i have. it’s called democracy. not a dictatorship. first democratic imperial world wide democracy since ancient rome. we ain’t a dictatorship like kings and queens and czars and dictators. go take a trip to cuba or north korea for the extreme example of that one. did me good.
I must disagree. How many wanted the Iranian war, Trump ran on no more wars and lied as they always do. The pols lie and then follow the tried-and-true formula, tax cuts and defense spending for the republicans and similar vote buying for the dems. Wake up, its a big lie that we are the government, that’s why nobody in their right mind trusts the parties or the government.
Go back to work and read something. I will copy and paste what America is “SUPPOSED” to be:
“America’s political system is designed to be a constitutional federal republic, where power is divided among three branches and governed by The White House through a system of checks and balances to prevent any single entity from gaining absolute authority.”
He is a high school or college sophomore who hasn’t been in the real world
Melvin, wake the F up: BOTH SIDES want that precious loots from the M.I.C. !!!!!!!!!!
Trump is a demented has been. The future is coming at ya at the speed of light…
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/06/24/israel-democratic-party-new-york-primaries-00973287
And then you have classic republicans like Tucker, MTG, etc. leaving the Trump party because of its Israel first policies.
Two parties, one convergence, one upcoming depression. What could possibly come next?
Got popcorn? Got exit strategy?
Do worry, Trump & Walrus will find a way to make things even worse.™
I voted against our AIPAC-funded incumbent in a recent primary.
He took too long to protest about Gaza.
I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.”
I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood (free from AIPAC & Israel)!
I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice (free from AIPAC & Israel)!
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character (free from AIPAC & Israel)!
I have a dream today.
I have a dream that one day down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of interposition and nullification — one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers (free from AIPAC & Israel)!
I have a dream today.
What is clear is that Trump does not want elections or even rules to constrain his powers as a dictator. The Republicans put a 34X convicted felon and confirmed pedophile at the helm of our nation. He has brought us nothing but chaos and war.
At home, the only beneficiaries of Trump are his family profits, the military establishment, owners of oil companies and owners of prisons!
Abroad, his beneficiaries are the violent theocracies of Israel and Iran.
All in all, the Trump legacy is a shit storm of lies, intimidation, deception and blunders.
To be clear, though, a Manhattan jury would have convicted Trump of kidnapping the Lindbergh baby.
30-35% of Americans still think he’s the tits
This is what’s wrong with the USA
And 80% of those are over the age of 65, guaranteed.
I am over 65 easily, Dummy, and NO NOT ALL BOOMERS are NAIVE. Many are, but many of my contemporaries think as I do and DO NOT VOTE AT ALL!
It is like a fairyland that voting bullshit.
Yeah that is why you see the republican machine invest in things like turning point usa. ( google where the funding comes from )Or organizing to take over school boards. ( got to make little johnny hate is gay classmates early so they will vote along those culture war lines. Buying tiktok and other youth based media.
Rando: wrong. My Dad is 87 and for the VERY FIRST TIME, after arguing with him for 50 plus years (I am old, Too): he said to me on the phone: “Yeah, ‘the guy’ is IN on it all!” FINALLY a sparkle of light. He has voted R since his first voting days back in the 1950’s.
Wow, you simultaneously denied my comment then affirmed it in a couple of comments. But no worries, you outed yourself as over 65 so it all makes sense.
Enough gerrymandering propaganda conservative media etc and thats all you need to stay in charge. When trumps gone those things will still be in place and stronger.
Imo i think the very wealthy have seen the writing on the wall. They are either in the Epstein files and or realize the poor huddled masses realize they have been taken advantage of in this system. Requiring the wealthy to pay more in taxes. At the least
Come on, get it straight with a COMPLETE coherent ending: “…all done in perfect synchrony with the big sham, CONGRESS.”
The “Save Act” appears to be dead on arrival. The Republicans do not have the votes to pass it, without help from Democrats, and that’s not happening! So why is Trump wasting so much time and effort on such? I understand he thinks it’s a great bill, and maybe many others do too. That doesn’t make it a bill that will pass, but rather a bill with merit, but needs time, and maybe some more work before a final bill can even think about passing.
This is one of Trumps faults imo. He is like a dog with a bone, once he gets his teeth clamped down on something, he simply can’t let go. It’s becoming a problem, as he demands instead of requesting support. If he could only realize, that if it’s a good bill for the Country, and the Republicans should be passing it, then it gets passed, but not the other way around…
I think his frustration, and somewhat self imposed, is getting to him, and it’s showing up as aggression. Never a good look from the person in charge. The one that is suppose to have the cooler head, with backup plans that are doable, as the go to, when your original ideas go stagnant.
I think Trump needs more long term vision, and needs to stop trying to pass ideas that sound good to him apparently, but won’t even pass his own party. That’s a problem for the entire party that’s being created.
Maybe he should take a few days off, to reflect upon his desires, and make some changes to his expectations. Do we need to do something in many areas at the moment? Absolutely! Is a continual war with phony peace plans, and continued underhanded strikes the place we want to stay in? I know I don’t!
Either do what you say Trump, and follow through with such, or stop your silly threats that mean nothing, and only. Make you look foolish to everyone, but mostly Iran! Then they walk all over you, and make you look the fool!! Is this your strategy? If so, I think it sucks! So do a lot of others in your party and throughout the Country from what I am reading and hearing. Step back and access what it is you want and bounce that against what you’re doing to get it. You may find all your answers right there…
This is Donald Trump being Donald Trump. He can’t suddenly be a respectable person. Half the country didn’t want a moron for President. The other half did. What can you do?
Stu is one of the morons who did so, don’t ask him
It’s good to note that slugs like Cornyn and Cassidy were plenty happy to screw us over as long as they kept their jobs. Now suddenly both have found their backbone sitting in an old suit that hasn’t been worn since the 70s. Please God give us a Democrat landslide so we can put this pathetic husk of the once somewhat respectable GoP out to pasture. At least Democrats can’t say they defeated slavery and then tried to bring it back.
Maybe we need to all vote for Only Independents. No Republicans or Democrats would get elected, and we would be able to see a much clearer picture into behavior by both sides, and what they want and why. That could be eye opening!!
Neither party wants competition from a third. Imo best you could get is a less gerrymandered system. Least that way the parties would have to listen to the voters. But neither party wants to potentially lose their power and have to figure out a new scheme or heaven forbid listen to the voters.
All during the year they play to the base then at the last moment they focus on independents.
I know we didn’t agree on much Stu, but I agree with this wholeheartedly. I would vote for a DSA candidate or anything else in a heartbeat if it meant changing the face of these parties. We are in a crisis and neither existing party can handle it. We need to come together or we will fall apart and everyone will lose.