My hoot of the day is the disregard by Democrats of the key election message.
The lead image is from the Washington Post. That’s a free link. Enjoy!
Most of the nation’s 3,000-plus counties swung rightward compared with 2020. The Republican shift appeared across rural border communities in Texas, the wealthy suburbs of Washington, D.C., and even reliably Democratic counties in New York City.
Trump widened his margins in rural areas, while Harris underperformed compared with Biden in safely blue cities. This combination, and a rightward lurch in major suburbs and midsize metros, amounted to a Trump victory in every battleground state.
Progressive Infighting Underway
As expected in this corner, Democrats, Reeling from Election Losses, Cast Blame on Each Other.
Two weeks removed from a set of losses that sent Democratic leaders into a tailspin, the years-long ideological battle between the progressive left and centrists has once again come to a head as both sides fight to shift blame and take the reins of the future direction of the party.
“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Sanders wrote. “While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.”
DNC Chair Jaime Harrison described that analysis as “straight up BS,” arguing that the Biden-Harris administration had brought about a slew of pro-worker reforms, including creating new jobs through major legislation, such as the Inflation Reduction Act.
For nearly a decade, progressives trying to get to the top of their party’s tickets have been stymied in favor of more centrist choices. [That is outright bullsheet. Biden promised to be a moderate and morphed into a senile, Progressive’s wet dream candidate. ]
Progressives have complained that Harris made a broad play for the political center, campaigning with billionaire Mark Cuban and former Republican congresswoman Liz Cheney, rather than trying to generate more enthusiasm for Harris among some left-leaning voter blocs. [Had Harris tilted further to the Left, Democrats may have lost Virginia.]
Rep. Ro Khanna (D-California), who supported Sanders’s presidential bid in 2020 and campaigned for President Joe Biden and then Harris this year, and other progressive Democrats said they had no conversations with Harris about her efforts to appeal to voters who might be interested in progressive policies.
“We didn’t emphasize the economy,” Khanna said. “We didn’t emphasize the renewal of the American Dream. We didn’t emphasize manufacturing and higher wages and corporations not having excessive CEO pay. Instead, we spent a billion dollars having concerts all over America. I mean, it was ridiculous.”
A campaign official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to openly discuss strategy, said that Harris’s policy ideas about ending corporate price gouging and reducing housing costs were taken from long-standing progressive proposals. One of Harris’s final campaign stops included an appearance by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-New York). Meanwhile, Sanders, Khanna and other progressives were surrogates for the campaign.
Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Washington), chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, pointed to the pandemic-era relief pushed by Democrats during the Trump administration. Getting those checks during Trump’s presidency might have led some to feel they had more money then than during Biden’s term once the aid ended. [Excuse me for pointing out that 2 of the 3 checks were delivered by Biden although 2 of them passed under Trump. But it was the massive third round of stimulus, totally unwarranted, that set off the big inflation wave. The absurdly named Inflation Reduction Act piled on even more inflation].
Voters preferred the progressive policies but they didn’t realize who was behind them, Jayapal said. “I don’t think we’ve ever really articulated that,” she said. “Voters did not reject our economic policies.”
“Voters Preferred Progressive Policies”
That statement is my top hoot of the day. And it’s from a totally brain-dead Progressive clown.
And my second hoot of the day is from another Progressive clown.
“We didn’t emphasize the economy,” said Rep. Ro Khanna.
The fact is, Harris purposely avoided the economy because Biden made a total inflationary mess of it.
Mish Flashback October 15: Is the Harris Media Blitz Backfiring or Is Her Slippage Due to the Something Else?
When asked by The View what she would have done differently than Biden, Harris replied with her only believable comment “There is not a thing that comes to mind.”
That truthful statement immediately confirmed the entire rest of her campaign was a big misinformation lie.
And now, Progressive say she should have talked more on the economy.
Mish Flashback August 24: Vote for Harris if You Want Radical Racial Indoctrination of Your Kids
What starts in California and Minnesota is guaranteed to not stay in California and Minnesota if you vote for Harris.
Q: Would Harris have changed that?
A: Hell no.
And the Progressive clowns wanted Harris to openly admit that.
Allan Lichtman Blames Elon Musk “Director of Misinformation” for Huge Democrat Loss
On November 11, I noted Allan Lichtman Blames Elon Musk “Director of Misinformation” for Huge Democrat Loss
This is my Hoot of the Day, candidate for Hoot of the Year.
This is difficult, but I will be very polite: Allan Lichtman, @AllanLichtman, is a first class politically arrogant moron.
The directors of misinformation are MSNBC, CNN, ABC, the View, CBS, Biden, Harris, the Washington Post, and alleged gurus like Lichtman.
Democrats sought to silence everyone who even slightly disagreed with any of the above.
Yes, that’s quite the hoot. But this may be a close call.
So we need a vote: Who is more delusional, Allan Lichtman, Pramila Jayapal , Ro Khanna, or AOC?
Those who have already voted, anyone care to change their vote.
Curt “You blame the third stimulus checks in 2021 and the IRA for the inflation that we experienced beginning in the second quarter of 2021 and peaked in June of 2022. Fine! That is your prerogative. But you cannot prove that supposition and looking at the inflation experience of virtually all of the advanced economies around the world, they experienced the same or worse inflation experience that we experienced”
Mish
It’s easy to show and I have done so in pictures
https://mishtalk.com/economics/expect-a-surge-in-spending-as-personal-income-jumps-on-covid-stimulus-free-money/
https://mishtalk.com/economics/how-much-free-money-stimulus-still-hasnt-been-spent/
https://mishtalk.com/economics/retail-sales-mostly-flounder-but-vehicles-and-revisions-the-bright-spots/
In addition to that add rent moratoriums, cancelled student debt
As for Europe, uhhh how many rounds of free money shotgun stimulus did they hand out. How much QE did the ECB do on top of it.
Mish, I certainly believe US fiscal and monetary policy can add to inflation – and may have after COVID (although MANY people were arguing for those boosts and more given the massive unemployment ensuing then).
But to add to Curt’s point, I chose a random and disparate set of countries (Australia, Costa Rica, Philippines, Pakistan, etc.) and looked at their five-year inflation rate profile before and after COVID. And the graphs are almost indistinguishable from that of the US. Did they all have three rounds of fiscal stimulus, the IRA and monetary stimulus? No.
But their inflation profile looks the same. So definitely recent past US policy could be inflationary. But IMO not to account for the same inflation around the world – sans the same corresponding national fiscal and monetary policies – without accounting for the unique worldwide supply-side economic effects of COVID is not seeing or telling the whole picture
Maybe admitting it was a nightmare mess instead of trying to gaslight the public that “it wasn’t that bad” or “the economy is better than you think” was the move. Instead a constant drumbeat that this was “the best economy ever” when people knew otherwise was a losing strategy
Monetary stimulus in the global reserve currency has global effects. The excess stimulus in the US (and elsewhere) did not stay in the US (or elsewhere).
Many trillions in free money and zero-interest credit exacerbated the supply shortages everywhere, so there was inflation everywhere.
Yes, I agree generally. This stuff is complex and interconnected and the US is obviously the biggest dog.
But just to go back to my original point, US monetary policy expansion and easier credit (and expanded fiscal policy for that matter) goes to Americans originally. And then we can choose whether, how and where to spend it. And the statistics show that we Americans are not importing/exporting alot to/from Costa Rica and Pakistan. So if those two countries (and Mongolia, etc.) are experiencing a similar inflation pattern to the US without massive direct sales to the US, the odds are slim such US policies are directly causing all that inflation abroad (six degrees to Kevin Bacon, maybe?).
It’s also likely the crazy global supply shake-up from COVID (regardless of the final US fiscal policy checks) caused a lot of that inflation on its own. Thus, the need for studies of these complicated economic consequences
But the US is so big economy wise relative to those other countries that what it does, does affect them.
Remember, everything US consumers buy leaves less for consumers in every other country. Especially in those years because so much was shut down (manufacturing, even food production). So once US consumers consumed the same (or more depending on their stimmy money) it left less for other countries consumers. So they had to pay more for the few goods available to them, thus inflation was exported to those countries by the US.
Of course, demand is important for inflation outcomes as it’s half of the supply/demand model that determines prices rising. But that’s also why I picked countries to research that are SO different from the US.
If you are arguing that US stimmy checks (which have been occurring for decades in one form or another) made US consumers outcompete Costa Ricans, Pakistanis and Mongolians for the same products, there’s no way anyone is going to be able to convince you this COVID inflation probably had multiple determinants.
BTW did the super-high worldwide inflation of the 1970s and 80s occur because of US stimmy checks, too?
I have had this debate more times that I care to think about and it becomes circular and wholly no one can prove the counter negative. I have discussed the 2021-22 inflation spike with Claudia Sahm as well. Excuse me, but I think that you could understand why I will give Claudia’s explanation of why we saw the inflation spike that we did and how well we responded to that spike on a relative basis over your seemingly non-contextual view of that period. The fact is that our economy cannot be viewed in isolation, we are the worlds largest and most global economy in the world. Thus, when the world experiences a shock like the 2020-21 pandemic and associated economic shocks, how a nation like the United States comes out the other side can only fairly be measured on a relative basis and graded on a curve. In light of what we know so far, the United State’s overall grade is at least an A-, if not better.
You can choose to grade on a curve but the objective reality is that global average standards of living went down – more than necessary – because of the policy choices that were made (or not made). The inflation is one symptom of the larger problem.
Voters will be crying by May 2025 and clamoring for the 2024 economy.
Sure
“…The fact is, Harris purposely avoided the economy because Biden made a total inflationary mess of it…”
You may be right. Another explanation is Harris avoided the economy because she doesn’t understand real-world economics, just a smattering of social/liberal economics. Note, she graduated from Howard University with a double major in political science and economics, and her father was a professor in economics, the extreme liberal version.
No mention of her undergraduate degree honors, no cum laude, whether summa, magna, or plain, which says a lot about GPA, and understanding.
So, beyond throwing $$$ to certain minorities, she is pretty much an economic ignoramus.
The chart above is a satellite picture of Biden/ Harris forest fires all over the US.
The senate will deny Casey in for too much cheating.
She would have fallen off the spectrum and reappeared on the other side as the authoritarian right.
You’re giving voters too much credit for intelligence and nuance.
The Dems lost because they fielded the worst candidate possible, outside of Joe Biden himself. She was so bad, that even circling the wagons around her could not help. Let this be a lesson for both parties.
The Democratic Party, reeling from their loss to the Republicans across the board this year, refuses to take a soul-searching look at themselves. People like programs like health care and minimum wage championed by the left; they’re less enthused about the culture wars the left has been taking to the forefront of society. But the left cannot help themselves. They’re like a good-looking single woman on the make: they want it all. Just as the hottie cannot stop herself from demanding the best man, the left politically wants to have all its dreams and sweet daydreamy notions met by the public, and they’ve been rebuffed. This causes them to howl “cheated” rather than to accepted that they may be too high-maintenance to tolerate.
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Democrats, generally, are extremely elitist, while pretending to advocate for the downtrodden, which they do only for votes. That is, Democrats are hypocrites of the highest order. We saw it with Clinton, then, Obama , then Biden, then Harris. Only Carter is the exception. Most Democrats will take advantage of position to become wealthy, usually through fraud and corruption, yet point the finger at Republicans..
They are the party of delusion and mental illness. Oh yeah, and bigotry. If you’re a Democratic party voter, how much more of this will it take for your to take the blinders off?
This is my Hoot of the Day, candidate for Hoot of the Year.
This is difficult, but I will be very polite: Allan Lichtman, @AllanLichtman, is a first class politically arrogant moron.
The directors of misinformation are MSNBC, CNN, ABC, the View, CBS, Biden, Harris, the Washington Post, and alleged gurus like Lichtman.
Democrats sought to silence everyone who even slightly disagreed with any of the above.
Excellent Mish right on target . Let me add the people who won;t to stop misinformation are the ones who put out the most but they are the ones who want to decide what it is,so they can snuff out any thruth and the only thing you get is their lies.
The blunt instrument of FED interest rates not only doesn’t work it inflicts pain on every economic agent. The 50% Discount/Rebate policy at retail sale however rewards both individuals and enterprise while mathematically ending inflation. Why aren’t you libertarians on to these facts? Perhaps the unwillingness/inability to see beyond your own worn out orthodoxies. The FED, as your own orthodoxies proclaim is the hand maiden and bail bondsman for the banks. So implement the single policy/paradigm change of the 50% Discount/Rebate at retail sale by mandating that the FED distribute the rebate aspect of the policy instead and have it actually fulfill its mandate of controling inflation and lowering unemployment.
The Washington DC establishment does not represent the people any longer . They broke away they represent themselves . DC voted 95 to 5 in favor of Harris and the surrounding counties in Va and Maryland would probably be 90 to 10 in favor of Harris if you broke away the ones in those counties that were not working for the Government . They have purged conservatives out of government how can you have a nation that is a 50\50 split but have the power establishment be 90-10 ? The answer is you can’t the MSM that Mish calls out is part of this establishment is in line with the 90-10 . The rot is deep and you can’t get a fair trial in a court room in the DC area if you are conservative they have proved that . The only fair trail in the US now should require 6 liberals and 6 conservatives on every jury . The 90 percent Dems in government represent a huge part of their most rabid lefties government should represent the people and if they did the number would be close to 50-50 not 90-10 like it is in that swamp . I think people are seeing this and voted against this abuse of power by the dems more than they did about the economy .
Conservative business cycle/trickle down and libertarian economic theories are fallacious and DO NOT WORK. Liberal Keynesianism and neo-liberal economics also DOES NOT WORK. Both parties have neglected/abused the general populace since forever and that is at the root of Trumpism.
Palliatives result in perpetual pissing and moaning until the system/nation/empire disintegrates. To avoid this historical trend look past your worn out orthodoxies and resolve the core problem in economics, namely the monopolistic monetary paradigm.
The big question now is WILL the RINO’s fold?
Trump is a RINO –
He is a former Democrat that became disgusted with the party like many others. No one wants the Romney and Cheney-style Republicans anymore.
Only time will tell. I predict he will be more like Biden and MAGA will be bewildered. I do hope he rips up the system. Voters will be angry over that too. People who voted for him have it coming.
The term RINO should probably be retired. It’s more about nationalist vs globalist now. I don’t want Republican orthodoxy if it means increasing the military budget, trying to run the world and abandoning all efforts to protect the environment. Hugh Hewitt is usually wrong. Thomas Massie is my favorite congressman, although I still wonder how his wife died.
The term RINO should probably be retired.
correct
And along with it the word Republican
True Republicans died on the Free Trade hill when it destroyed Midwestern prosperity to enriched Silicon Valley and Wall Street. Peter Thiel outlined that out the other day.
Dems keep talking about the election in terms of what Kamala talked about: “she didn’t even talk about transitioning children!”, they say indignantly – as though that absolves their party of its extremism. “She pledged tighter border security!” It’s like they think we didn’t notice what they’ve been doing for years. Biden obviously opened up the border. Their solution to inflation was to print more money and spend it on Green New Deal scams. Their spokespeople at places like NPR talked about “birthing persons”. People know exactly what the Dems are all about and they rejected it.
Chances are that the Repubs will revert to form and go too far in coddling their monied establishment. Then they’ll be out of power again. Meanwhile the debt goes parabolic.
I pretty much concur.
However the debt isn’t going parabolic.
The debt is going hyperbolic and when it finally gets moving it will be all over very quickly.
Perhaps exponential is more descriptive, and less debatable..
Well, with exponential growth the growth continues increasing with time, faster and faster towards infinity. Forever. Never reaches infinity.
Hyperbolic growth increases with time to some point where the increase suddenly and rapidly goes to infinity. You are suddenly broke and your holdings are totally worthless.
Having lost the election…
who cares if delusional Democrat leaders misplace the blame?
At least they accept the election results.
The most delusional guy…
who promotes any & all conspiracies theories…
actually won this time.
Casey in PA says hi
Says the defender of delusion. You need to ask yourself…. How do you know you’re in a cult when you’re in a cult?
In other economic news, Governor Newsom bought a new 9 million $ mansion in Marin County and is sending a child to the elite private Branson school, which charges tuition of up to $60,000 a year, according to the Daily Mail.
Yeah yeah. Let them eat freakin cake. I’ll be at the French Laundry drinking $1000 bottles of cabernet.
Last Friday, the UC Regents announce a 9.9% increase in tuition for out of state students. The reason? “We were quite a bit behind. And so that’s why we looked at whether we had some headroom to raise it.”
That’s the quote from CFO of the UC system, Nathan Brostrom. We raised prices because we can.
It’s mainly the CHinese that are out of state registrants and they can afford the extra coin.
If Trump really wants to hurt China, he should bar their students from being educated in the USA.
No, he should double their tuition costs to lower the trade deficit.
If he bars them as students they will quickly figure out they can get the same education for free or next to free from online classes.
Silicon Valley’s venture-capital firms are having an easy time finding promising startups to back. The hard part is cashing out. From a report: Last year, U.S. venture firms returned $26 billion worth of shares back to their investors, the lowest amount since 2011, according to the data provider PitchBook. Startup investors say 2024 has continued the trend, with high levels of investment and few acquisition deals or initial public offerings. “We’ve raised a lot of money, and we’ve given very little back,” Thomas Laffont, co-founder of investment firm Coatue Management, said at a recent conference. “We are bleeding cash as an industry.”
Last year, U.S. venture firms invested $60 billion more than they collected, the highest such deficit in PitchBook’s 26 years of data. As a result, the investors that back VC firms, such as university endowments and pension funds, aren’t seeing the type of profits the industry has long delivered. The decline is particularly notable because the past three years have been the highest three on record for total VC firm investments since 1998 — as far as back as the PitchBook data goes. Much of that money has recently gone to artificial-intelligence startups — a white-hot space in which valuations are rising fast and companies quickly burn through cash to develop new technology.
Can’t Allan Lichtman, Pramila Jayapal , Ro Khanna, or AOC all be equally delusional ?
Like their ballot boxes, the democrats should just get stuffed.
Maybe by the end of Vance’s first term they will own up to the idiocy. Quite a few hopefully from prison.
Vance to Ivanka to Barron. Can’t wait
I think Mr Trump leaned from his first administration…
Vance → Don Jr. → Barron
Some of the inflation we experienced in 2022 can be attributable to the world trade disruptions that occurred after Russia attacked Ukraine in Feb. 2022. The back story to the outbreak of the war can be traced back to American neocons meddling in the politics of Ukraine. They encouraged and supported the Maidan Revolution in Ukraine in 2014 which sought to reduce Russia’s influence in Ukraine and have the latter become part of NATO with Sevastopol in Crimea being converted to a NATO naval base. One might say that Ukraine was Putin’s line in the sand.
All of the inflation in 2022 was due to the FED’s money policy. February was the peak in roc’s in money. June was the peak in money flows, the volume and velocity of money.
See: “Quantity Leads, and Velocity Follows” Cit. Dying of Money -By Jens O. Parson
The trade disruptions are from self-defeating Western sanctions on Russia
Trump was truly Awesome during His short stint of Covid. Shortly after His departure, the wheels fell off, and all hell broke loose. It started with Afghanistan, and just slid like a slow landslide from then on, until they went off the rails completely when they booted “Old Joe” for “Word Salad Kamala” in a most cringe worthy way, that Only Democrats could muster up.
Yeah his attacks on everyone who refused to lock down were really terrific and pro-freedom. It was also cool how he kept Birx, Fauci et al in their positions until the end of his term.
So let’s take a look under the hood shall we?
For starters, we all know including the Democrats, that “They eat their own” Always have and always will. It’s for a whole lot of reasons, but primarily it come down to a few simple things they just can’t seem to get right.
1. Money: The Democrats think it’s All Theirs!
2. Spending: It’s theirs, so they spend it, ALL!
3. Boss: They think they all work for themselves. They live in “Echo Chambers” and act just like it!
4. Ideology: They can’t understand, for their lives, why “Everyone Doesn’t Agree” with theirs?
5. Teamwork: They are a “Party of One” and cannot and will not, work with anyone that disagrees with them.
So I came across what could be the Top 5 pretty quickly. When you get going, they sort of jump onto the page for you. Words come to mind like Manipulation, and Propaganda and I instantly align the behavior to “Every Single Democrat” out there! It’s almost a default, as they are so aligned with the destructive ideologies, they come “Top of Mind” (thanks Press Secretary) as the Primary Problem!!!
IMO, the Democrats are a ‘Big Tent’ party, consisting of several factions, with the principal common interest in using government authority (authoritarianism) to impose their beliefs and desired behaviors on the rest of us.
* The environmentalists want us to stop using energy, using plastics
* Another set of environmentalists want us to eat organic, doing away with pesticides.
* Black-Lives-Matter want repudiation of police, an end to jailing blacks accused of crimes, and reparations.
* Hispanics, some of them, want open borders
* LGBTQ have gone past seeking tolerance, to seeking affirmation that they are better people than the rest of us.
* Organized labor wants job security, higher pay, and justifying that they want bosses, management and investors placed under them, more reward for labor and less for investment and capital.
Those are the factions I can easily think of. Some of their goals conflict.
One only needs to go back to the D primaries of 2020 to understand what happened. The candidate wasn’t palatable to registered D voters participating in primaries four years ago (in other words, the “base”). A non-democratic appointing process was the only way Harris was ever going to be at the top of a national ticket.
Once again, a plurality of eligible voters, more than 36%, decided that not voting for anyone was their preference. Second place was president-elect Trump with nearly 32%.
Neither party can allow themselves to recognize the significance of the number of eligible Americans not voting at all.
If you still vote in Federal elections it means that you have not been paying attention.
You blame the third stimulus checks in 2021 and the IRA for the inflation that we experienced beginning in the second quarter of 2021 and peaked in June of 2022. Fine! That is your prerogative. But you cannot prove that supposition and looking at the inflation experience of virtually all of the advanced economies around the world, they experienced the same or worse inflation experience that we experienced. The world had a shared pandemic experience in 2020 and 2021. Similarly, the world experienced the similar challenges as economies attempted to normalize as vaccines became universally available and the COVID-19 variants became less dangerous beginning in the first half of 2021 through most of 2022. Thus, the evidence when looking at the world during those times is that the United States did not experience materially higher inflation compared to our peers and our policies in responding to that period of high inflation were the most successful of any advanced large economy in terms of moving inflation down, maintaining economic growth and low unemployment.
Good analysis.
I also believe the current political climate has its roots in the pandemic.
Variants weren’t inharently dangerous to most to begin with. The world kept turning from Autumn 2019 into early 2020 as the illness spread across the globe, it didn’t suddenly become a pandemic in February 2020.
Widespread availability of vaccines that did not prevent infection nor prevent transmission did not make the world a safer place to do business.
Running 2 Trillion-dollar deficits annually and controlling the world’s reserve currency are the aces up the U.S. sleeve when it comes to having the appearance of a growing economy.
“The Great Barrington Declaration.” Virologist around he world called BULLSHIT on the Pandemic.
There’s been a couple of “sea changes” with C-19. One is crowding out. The other is the offsetting change in the proportion of DDs to TDs.
I suppose we could quibble about exactly which boondoggle caused the inflation.
It’s easy to show and I have done so in pictures
https://mishtalk.com/economics/expect-a-surge-in-spending-as-personal-income-jumps-on-covid-stimulus-free-money/
https://mishtalk.com/economics/how-much-free-money-stimulus-still-hasnt-been-spent/
In addition to that add rent moratoriums, cancelled student debt
As for Europe, uhhh how many rounds of free money shotgun stimulus did they hand out. How much QE did the ECB do on top of it.
Apologies accepted.
It wasn’t enough. It’s never enough. If they would just do more stimulus everything would be great. If they continued increasing the stimulus permanently. More Money Today!
Our means-of-payment money supply hit an all-time high in November of 2020. The rates-of-change in money flows, the volume and velocity of money, are cumulative. The subsequent inflation was textbook.
It was bad pandemic response policies that started the inflation. There were several proposing and implementing those bad policies. There were two additional factors whose blame lays at the Biden door:
The most insane part of the election are the tens of millions who voted for this brain-dead fool. May her party die an ugly death.
All the spew about education. Just look at the results. Absence of critical thinking everywhere.
Voters rejected your crappy candidate who was not able to articulate your economic policies. I’m not saying a different candidate would have won but if your candidate sucks your economic policies are not going to save you.
Definition of insanity. Dems and the MSM have learned nothing from their rejection at the polls. They continue to double down on Russia…identity politics, abortion and TDS. Meanwhile, it’s obvious to 70% of the country that public sentiment has swung towards Trump and the new fun loving Rat Pack. They just don’t get it.
My prediction on the “economy”, 2025 3rd quarter stock market will really start to decline. 2026 3rd quarter stock market will be half what it is today. Unemployment (actual true numbers) will be 6% and increasing. Unless Trump does what Republicans always do, increase the US Debt, maybe double the US Debt.
Talking to a Trumper who thought I too was a Trumper. Suggested that no employee in any corporation should make more in total compensation than 20 times the LOWEST paid employee, he agreed completely. I also suggested that every American citizen should have to appear in person every four years for the census and the opportunity to vote. Not required to vote but required to appear, he agreed completely. Sometime left leaning ideas are ok with the right if they think they are coming from a fellow traveler.
Or he thought you were an idiot and was humoring you.
Typical, you can’t make an argument of the facts so you personalize your response. I guess you are in favor of CEOs and other heads of corporations making 200 or more times their rank and file employees? Also you are against an accurate census count and the real possibility of increasing the vote?
There are Trump supporters (hopers is more accurate) who would be totally fine with many aspects of Sanders’ approach. I am one such. Medicare for all doesn’t scare me because my family medical cost including premiums and copays is well over $20k per year. That’s true of most people here, too, although the employer’s portion of insurance premiums is obscured from their view. We can’t continue with healthcare consuming 20% of GDP.
Who is going to win the GDP wars?
The Government, the MIC, or the medical/pharmaceutical industry?
how many pollsters resigned
I know of only 1, and it was a woman, but I forget her name… seems about right, as who would know them that well? They obviously suck at their job, and we’re 100% wrong again!
She retired.
Not convinced economy was the reason–she was so fake and dumb that lots of people couldn’t stomach her.
That too but exit polls were the same across the board. 1. Economy. 2. Border. Thee end
How could any one express that in a poll?
There is nothing more entertaining, and predictable, than a Democrat circular firing squad.
The number one issue for people voting was the economy. And they lost.
You mean the people lost? Our economy will be in the dumpster inside of two years.