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Would You Pay $4.99 a Month For a Verified ID Twitter Account?

The Bird is Freed

Verified Badges

How Much?

What About Moderation?

The Purpose of Verification

https://twitter.com/dsilverman/status/1586919612494614528

Trial Balloon?

I am more than a bit skeptical of that $19.99 price. Perhaps it’s a trial balloon to make $4.99 seem cheap.

I suspect a majority of people would choose to give up Twitter than pay $19.99 a month.

Perhaps the verification fee should be higher but one time. How about $9.99 a month for unverified accounts?

Finding Value

  • I pick up ideas to write about.
  • Occasionally I change my mind. 
  • I learn new things.

There would be more value if there were fewer bots and less spam. 

One way to easily get rid of the bots and fake accounts is to charge for accounts. 

Interesting Comment and Reply

Reflections on Addictions

Is This About Musk?

How Much Would You Pay?

If you don’t get at least $2.99 a month value out of Twitter, then close your account. You are wasting your time and everyone else’s time. 

It will make Twitter better if all the spammers and bots and people who see no value in Twitter leave.

If $2.99 is an economic hardship, then I suppose there could be an appeal process.

How about free for students?  

People are demanding Musk lose billions of dollars for free. Think about it. Musk has to make make money or he will close it down.

Twitter Improvements Needed

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Kulak
Kulak
3 years ago
One area in which Twitter proves invaluable is in the sharing of cybersecurity information. If you are following a specific malware or cyber actor, chances are someone else is as well and will be sharing indicators of compromise on the platform. Need to know when and where a new variant appeared, look back through Twitter using those indicators or other unique features of the malware.
The researchers are amateur and professional and come from across the globe. Some price points may be beyond the reach of cyber analysts in certain countries. They also use Twitter as a proving ground, provide enough valuable information and you can earn a job, or a better job, in the industry. Offering to pay the fee for a promising cyber analyst wouldn’t be an option because the newest ones haven’t had a chance to strut their stuff yet.
Counter
Counter
3 years ago
Thanks for the reminder, I need to cancel Prime. I already canceled netflix, they somehow got my new card and were charging me. CC said they could not do anything because it happened too long ago.
indc
indc
3 years ago
I am just wondering why Mish selected an Indian news site’s twitter handle. There is a police case against them, they give fake news. And they are called “wire the liar”.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
$4.95 per alias?
So $50k gets you 10,000 accounts?
You could influence a lot with 10,000 accounts.
In the world of campaign funding $50k is a rounding error.
MarkraD
MarkraD
3 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
Excellently stated, which is why FB and Twitter ignore the 1rst amendment rights of non-Americans opening mass quantities of accounts, but for a fee, I wonder how Elon deals with it?
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
3 years ago
Regular accounts will not be charged because they are Twitter’s Product. Twitter attracts and retains those participants and makes those eyes available to those who are trying to sell something. Verified accounts would pay more than $20 per month because they want access to Twitter’s Product.
I think Musk went into this with a “can’t lose” perspective. On the one hand, I do not think he wanted to buy it. I think he simply wanted to expose it and then let it die. Perhaps he could then spend $5 billion on a new ground-up much better replacement, thus saving 90% of what he just spent. But when he could not get out of the deal he knew he had to monetize The Product better and that people would complain and then comply. Is this really that different than when Youtube made those who do not pay the monthly fee watch ads? I was thrilled that I could have access to the knowledge of humanity for just $10 per month ad-free. I would pay double that if needed because I do a lot of projects and YouTube is my goto source for howto information.
One more thing. Can someone please tell me why so many people hate the most productive man of this century so much? Stupid comments like “I don’t want to give Elon money” abound and I just don’t get it. Musk has created many thousands of excellent paying jobs. He has made it easy for one person to start a small business and collect subscription fees (paypal works great for this). He is the true founder of the global electric car industry. Everyone before him was a hobbyist in this field who created punishment cars for the austerity minded. He has embarrassed NASA by building reusable boosters that land where they lifted off from without requiring payment from the public to do so. Starlink is bringing reasonable cost Internet to the whole world, now including those living in mobile RVs and even boats. His Boring Company threatens to revolutionize multilayer traffic in cities. His solar storage solutions have helped MANY people around the world. Remember when rural S. Australia was having all kinds of electrical grid issues and then Musk said I can fix that in like 2 months, and he did? We have not heard a peep about that since. Nobody saying, “congrats Elon for helping all those people out of their nightmare”. His solar roof tiles are still too expensive but might make sense for people who were going to replace the roof anyway. As electricity costs go up, they will make more and more economic sense. And now Musk is only a couple years away from delivering a home robot, Optimus. Again, everything before Musk, who is a man for the people, was either military grade that nobody could afford (Boston Dynamics) or some kind of an overpriced cutsie toy. But you can bet that when Musk delivers something it will have real utility for people.
Everything he does he does for the good of mankind. So why does everyone hate him so much? Mean tweets like trump? Taskmaster like Steve Jobs? What is the basis of all this hate?
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
I like him. He is perhaps the most amazing engineer and entrepreneur of our time. He actually makes stuff instead of flash-in-the-pan abstractions.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
Everything you say is true but Mush is a bit of a loose cannon who lets his mouth get ahead of his brain too often. That is what ticks people off.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
And everything you say (or me as well) is measured, relevant and lauded by all? He can get on some people’s nerves because a hell of a lot of people read what he tweets so just by human variability some will not like what he tweets. When he tweets people read it. When we tweet how many read ours?
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
“Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me”
–F. Scott Fitzgerald
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
Musk isn’t a polo player but he does have an eye for the ladies.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
Yes. They have very fresh vegetables.
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
I don’t hate him and recognize his achievements, but I think he frequently intentionally lies about his products. Self driving abilities as an example.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Interesting top 10 here. 1/3 of Saudi Arabia’s total population is on Twitter!:
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Leading countries based on number of Twitter users as of January 2022
10 Twitter Statistics Every Marketer Should Know in 2022 [Infographic]
15 Jun, 2022
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
3 years ago
“Verified” accounts: For appealing to an audience of those, and those only, too dumb to follow and verify a simple 40 character argument; and hence are reduced to fall for simple, childish appeal to authority instead….. Right up Musk’s alley, I suppose. As well as the alleys of the welfare queens The Fed keep enriching and empowering; hence ensuring are the only ones with the means to pay for their “verification.”
Man, this dump is pathetic by now…… Now wonder the commies have it so easy….
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Hopefully Musk will be able to eliminate Russian disinformation like this one that is blatantly wrong.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Nothing like censorship-by-silly-clown for making once-was America even more pointless than it already is.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Link can’t be found
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
“One way to easily get rid of the bots and fake accounts is to charge for accounts.”
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Sure. And let’s charge to send email also. A decades old proposal I and others have repeatedly made is that spam email could be virtually eliminated if it cost say 1 penny to send an email. The first 50 emails (or whatever number) a month would be free. The same could be done with texts.
Odds of this happening? So far, ZERO.
Same odds of Twitter charging for regular accounts.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
Yes, I was pushing for $0.05 each twenty years ago.
Billy
Billy
3 years ago
I’m glad to see Mish is offering suggestions to make it better. Nothing is worse than people shutting down an idea without a logically better suggestion.
MarkraD
MarkraD
3 years ago
20 years ago AOL was worth a monthly fee of $10, it had real time chats on any topic, most were moderated by professionals or professors in the given chat topic.
College students could enter a C++ or JAVA code chat or message board and ask for help in real time from real professionals, mechanics could go to an engineering chat to find solutions to odd problems, musician chats, medical …etc…etc, all in one place.
It bewilders me that AOL is all but gone, meanwhile people flock to talk about their cats and dogs or argue over Trump in single paragraphs at a time and have their personal internet activity tracked.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Will lurking still be free?
MarkraD
MarkraD
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Only if you stalk user internet activity.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  MarkraD
Delicious prospect!
LM2022
LM2022
3 years ago
Musk lost money the moment he threw away 44 billion buying it. There’s a reason why bots and fake accounts make up such a high percentage of accounts – to inflate their actual user numbers to make it attractive to investors and advertisers. My guess is his attempt to charge for what people have been getting for free, in addition to what is perceived to be his partisan moves, will lead to an exodus of users and a fire sale of Twitter within 1-2 years.
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
3 years ago
Reply to  LM2022
What party does Musk belong to? He voted dem all his life until now. Sure he has said he will vote GOP going forward, but only because dems have turned into “the party of division and hate”. So where is all this “partisanship” that you speak of. It seems to me that Musk is simply pro human.
My guess is that your guess will be wrong. Musk is a bit smarter (well, a good deal smarter) than you and many others give him credit for. He is not a loser. He might not always achieve all of his very lofty goals but he’s not a loser. Seems to me that you might be the one with “partisanship” issues.
LM2022
LM2022
3 years ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
Please try reading again.
“in addition to what is perceived to be his partisan moves”
hhabana
hhabana
3 years ago
Wouldn’t give them a penny. I tried it very briefly and didn’t appeal to me.
Nice try Musk.
MarkraD
MarkraD
3 years ago
Reply to  hhabana
You’re saying paying a fee to find the old high school friend you stopped talking to, only to remember WHY you stopped talking to him isn’t worth a fee?
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
3 years ago
Reply to  MarkraD
That sounds more like facebook than Twitter. And no, I would not maintain a monthly fee just for that. But those who use Twitter as part of their strategy for making money WILL PAY for access to all of the FREE non-commercial accounts.
MarkraD
MarkraD
3 years ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
Well yeah, that was my brief experience with FB back in ’09, I promptly stopped using it when it occurred to me it’s more of an echo chamber/rumor mill than a real social asset.
I was more broadly referencing the utility of social media in general, which seems to be the place to go if you want to know who just walked their dog, view cat pics or who got a haircut.
It bewilders me that AOL went under, when they offered a plethora of actual useful resources and real time chats, yet FB and Twitter are what replaced it.
I remember going to an AOL room and learning, interactively asking questions, how to remove adware from my old PC, asking a mechanic why my power steering pump was noisy…etc…etc.
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Dean
Dean
3 years ago
YES. all the macro accounts that give investment ideas and macro trends are a total steal for $5 month, even $20 a month. (I canceled my account after JPB and J. Lindsay were banned)
CRZYHUN
CRZYHUN
3 years ago
Ah, NO!
Elon just tier it. The basic is censored. The 4.99 is uncensored. Still NO though. Waste of time 95%. Sorry the other five is for the good stuff like Mish and so forth who are responsible and serious about what they say.
MarkraD
MarkraD
3 years ago
I don’t use FB or Twitter, last Social media I was on was MySpace, after AOL dissolved.
To Social media in general, I specifically didn’t join Facebook because of the way Zuckerberg treated personal privacy while operating a Social network at Harvard, my instinct was correct.
Just last year, I was at a friend’s home, she was talking about maybe buying an RV, a half hour later she looked at her phone and there were RV ads, we then learned that the FB app listens to room conversations through the microphone to target ads.
I truly don’t understand why this doesn’t outrage people, they’re eavesdropping, literally.
Beyond that, forcing members to verify their identity does have an appeal where anonymous trolls can mass spam lies or propaganda and you have no way to know who they are or what country they live in.
But then, if I verify my ID, that then means advertisers know exactly who I am.
So, no, I wouldn’t pay $4.99, I won’t join for free, not without the written guarantee that my personal info is protected.
MarkraD
MarkraD
3 years ago
Reply to  MarkraD
I should note that Zuckerberg denies FB “listens to conversations”, but then I question if that just means the app only listens for keywords, my real experience is undeniable and there are countless others that have had similar experiences with ads popping up after verbally mentioning a product.
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
3 years ago
Reply to  MarkraD
Facebook has denied this publicly and it would be very easy to verify simply by connecting wireshark and looking at packet data. I am sure people have tried to do that to catch them snooping because they would be instantly famous for having caught facebook in a lie. So you will disabuse yourself of this fantasy.
MarkraD
MarkraD
3 years ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
It happened, we were talking about it, not using her phone, she later picked up her phone and the ads were there.
It’s already known Facebook’s app gathers info from texts and phone calls – Google “Facebook for years has been collecting data taken from Android user’s” – ARS Technica did a great article on it.
It’s not a stretch to think conversations are screened for keywords, not to me after my own experience.
Back when FB went mainstream and there were rumors Zuckerberg would gather/abuse personal info the way he did at his Harvard social network, Zuckerberg carefully worded it to reassure FB would not violate “personal privacy”, and then, that info was regularly used by ad campaigns and political targeting.
Just for me, I don’t see the value vs the risk of, say, a leak or hack that could then try to use my info to cause harm.
Call_Me
Call_Me
3 years ago
Reply to  MarkraD
It would seem likely that he has plausible deniability for something like that. The common narrative is that a LifeLog-like application wasn’t his goal while at Harvard. As the public face of the org, he doesn’t have time to know what goes on when the 1s and 0s are dancing. (this is not to say that images, conversations, contacts, etc aren’t mined to optimize advert placement.)
Call_Me_Al
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Reply to  MarkraD
Wait until someone says, “I think I’m going to get an abortion” and Facebook sends that info to the local Republican Taliban for ‘correction’ much like what happens in Iran with the head gear. Never had a FB or Twitter account either. I also disable microphone on all apps on laptop and cell phones except for the phone app of course.
MarkraD
MarkraD
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
It absolutely baffles me how so many are so complacent about being stalked, for a fee any entity can collect info about your lifestyle, preferences, personality, strengths/weaknesses… and use it against you, not just to sell merchandise, but also for disinformation.
Say, a political group knows you’ll vote contrary to their interest, you then get an ad telling to remember to vote on a specific date, a day late.
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StukiMoi
StukiMoi
3 years ago
Reply to  MarkraD
“It absolutely baffles me how so many are so complacent about being stalked”
They have been that complacent going all the way back to when they proved retarded enough, to not immediately burn down, string up and exterminate anyone even close to “power” who dared so much as suggest “income taxes”, “sales taxes” and anything else of the can-only-work-in-the-presence-of-completely-unconstrained-spying-on-people’s-activity variety.
None of this is new. America became a worse governed shhole than current day Afghanistan, the very day the first of the progressives entered the halls of power. 125 years ago. The rest has been nothing but a continuous slide into an ever more totalitarian terror state. Without as much as one single redeeming exception ever.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  MarkraD
Aww, we’re not being stalked.
We’re simply being monitored.
Like in a Panopticon.
Call_Me
Call_Me
3 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
Perspective is everything 🙂
Call_Me_Al
klausmkl
klausmkl
3 years ago
No. Tweeting brings me nothing except opinions of others which is fit for the trash can. If they paid me money every month I would not take it. The can shove twitter. I was on it for years and deleted my account years ago. I am a stock trader thats it.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Technically I have a Twitter account. I opened one up back in 2016 or so and was on it for about 10 minutes before I got fed up with it. The closest I’ve come to logging back in was when the pop-up asked if I wanted to login to watch something someone shared with me. I always decline. For the most part, I find social media platforms to be the preferred platforms for those who are avoiding doing something with their lives. I’ve got enough problems without adding that to the mix.
SyTuck
SyTuck
3 years ago
Free stuff gets abused, or ruined by advertisers and third party interests 😒
I wish more platforms would adopt such an idea to push the chaff off their service.
The fee should be as minimal as possible to discourage freeloaders but not upstarts that wish to be taken seriously; I’m thinking $1.99. Then some kind of scale based on the number of followers? Perhaps there could be a non-advertiser funded model here.
I assume with such a model that viewers/non-producers would be free to keep the site from imploding.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Reply to  SyTuck
Yes. This whole notion that people should provide the highest quality for free is insane. I’ve often wondered what the video platforms would look like if everyone contributed just one dollar a month to their favorite creator.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
“Would you pay $4.99 a month for Twitter Blue?” reminds me of the long ago advertising slogan “Would you walk a mile for a Camel (cigarette)? For very many people Twitter like tobacco is an addiction that is hard to break. Would you spend the price of one-half a pack of cigarettes per month to feed your habit? Yes I am sure they would.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Cigs are $9-$12/pack hereabouts and addicted people spend that amount DAILY. Perhaps Twitter should charge $10/day. That would show who the real addicts are!
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
3 years ago
4.99 or even 1.99 a month may not seem like much for someone in the USA, but for non-first world countries that may be a whole lot of money. Perhaps a weeks salary or more. So I am not sure how they’d be able to afford it unless he is going to have some kind of sliding scale where it’s 4.99 or 1.99 in local currency.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Does anyone in the 1st world honestly care about places where people make $5/week?
LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
3 years ago
1- $4.99 for a blue check is not happening unless you are corporate sponsored. I can see a one time fee of .. $10? $20? Or perhaps $4.99/yr. Not per month
2- The solution to bots is to put a reasonable limit on tweets over some time period, whether hour/day/week whatevers. Charge to buy extra tweets and have it the cost increase exponentially.
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
The old twitter guy is accepting beta users for the new twitter – Blue Sky.
Irondoor
Irondoor
3 years ago
What would I pay for a revised and cleaned up Twitter? I’d have to see it first and also get reinstated for a fraudulent suspension that they won’t even tell me what it is for, other than the “rules”. But, if I’m satisfied, then probably $10. Or two and a half gallons of gas, some of which I waste because I’m too lazy to walk to the mailbox.
Twitter is a valuable resource to me if done properly. And the $10 would get rid of a lot of the BullShirt that goes on now.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Irondoor
You haven’t defined what the “value” of Twitter is to you. What do you gain from being on it that you value at $10/month?
Kauaifb
Kauaifb
3 years ago
I just signed up yesterday to observe the new content and feeds at Twitter. 100’s of corporations around the world develop their marketing and advertising around Twitter “Likes” and “Followers.” Those numbers have been artificial, to advance an agenda, now we see the truth.
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  Kauaifb
Might help explain how corporations cancel associations with non-woke celebrities. They probably think woke is popular.
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
If the vast majority of corporations are supporting wokeism then by default the vast majority of americans are supporting it. There were numerous attacks on Disney by the right for their wokeism including losing their tax benefits in Florida – Disney hasn’t changed a thing. And I doubt they will, there is more money to be made to be open to everyone over a few bigots. Money is what businesses are in business for and wokeism seems to work for them. Just an observation, not an endorsement, I look for profits not politics.
Kauaifb
Kauaifb
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Supporting? No they have directed advertising and marketing budgets based on fake “Followers” and “Likes.”
Political power will be shifting much in the same way.
Beware of the prognosticator but I do smell fear.
MarkraD
MarkraD
3 years ago
Reply to  Kauaifb
Facebook and Youtube have the same problem.
One highly successful Youtuber actually made a 20 minute video explaining that influencers can pay foreign companies that hire cheap 3rd world workers to press “like” thousands of times to push your video’s to the front, manipulating the Youtube algorithm.
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Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  MarkraD
Much cheaper in Chicago where they just use dead people’s names for free.
MarkraD
MarkraD
3 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
I’d LOVE to see how they get the dead people to click “like”, maybe wire them to an electric charge, like Galvani’s frog legs?
What voltage?…AC or DC? so many questions, so little time…
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Kauaifb
Most numbers that feed advertising decisions are fake.
One hand washes the other. Business believes they need to advertise to increase buyers. People/businesses that sell advertising will therefore accommodate the desires of the businesses that want to buy by finding ways to reinforce the value of buying ads, even if the numbers used aren’t really “real”. Both sides walk away happy. Business believe they are getting value and ad sellers stay employed.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Imagine Twitter with no bots nor spam. It would be an advertiser’s dream and very valuable to them since they will be paying the bills.
MarkraD
MarkraD
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Bots are 25% of why I won’t join, personal privacy from ad trackers is the other 75%.
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KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
One platform where lefties will be called out for lying while righties won’t be called out for telling the truth and the media freaks out.
They’re not profitable. I assume his plan is to get rid of half the workforce and then rehire positions that were eliminated and later found to be in need. Doubt the savings will be enough to become profitable long term, so he has to increase revenue.
MarkraD
MarkraD
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Great article.
I’ve been saying all along that I’m worried raising rates to restrict demand could backfire if inflation is disproportionally a supply problem.
This is an even greater problem with the timing of Putin’s grain games, and oil/energy prices, a supply problem, not demand.
It seems Putin is weaponizing Fed policy.
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Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn

The depth of your delusional state is truly impressive. Rah rah team!

KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Impressed by 0? You’re easy to please.
Jack
Jack
3 years ago
Not sure how he will make Twitter an app for everything like Wechat if he lays off 75% of the workforce.
Elon’s ego will get in the way of his success.
Speak to anyone within Tesla and you will hear about unorganized chaos.
With making cars and rockets there are clear goals, with Twitter the goals are not so evident, except to stroke his ego and to have a platform.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  Jack
Elon said there were 10 managers for every coder at Twitter so he will fire a lot of managers and replace them with coders.
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
He needs to hire cybersecurity experts to prevent the hacking, spamming, phishing, etc. Too bad those people don’t exist.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
If you got the money you will get the expertise.
Kauaifb
Kauaifb
3 years ago
Reply to  Jack
I do talk to people at Tesla and they are happy and excited for the future. And this was a guy who just spent a week on my roof in the blazing sun.
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
No, I wouldn’t pay $4.99 for Twitter although I would take those that do a bit more seriously than those who don’t. Talk is cheap which is why I always put my money where my mouth is when talking about investing here and encourage others to do the same if they want to be taken seriously otherwise it is just noise.
I’d rather pay for fastgraphs, everything money, or seekingalpha where I get useful investment information over pointless tweets.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
I’d say Elon is an idjit for buying Twitter, but I thought Twitter was a stupid idea to begin with. People won’t pay this in any numbers though.
Twitter always reminds me of a bit of poetry I used to see from time to time. It begins:
He who writes on outhouse walls…
MarkraD
MarkraD
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
I’d agree, Social media is in a major decline, the “thrill” is gone.
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