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Biden Agrees to a Debate Between Kamala Harris and Trump’s VP Pick

This VP debate will be widely watched and a lot of fun too. I have a suggestion for Trump.

Stage Set for VP Debate

Politico reports Biden Campaign Agrees to VP Debate on CBS

The Biden campaign has accepted an invitation from CBS News for Vice President Kamala Harris to debate Donald Trump’s running mate, whoever that ends up being, a campaign official said.When that debate will take place is to be determined, though there are two dates on the table: July 23 and August 13.

The campaign official said all of the guidelines sent for the presidential debates would apply to the vice presidential contest and that they “look forward to the Trump campaign accepting one of these dates so that the full debate calendar for this campaign can be set.”

Trump has not yet settled on a running mate, though with the RNC convention slated for mid July, he will have done so prior to the earliest possible vice presidential debate opportunity.

Biden Challenges Trump to a Debate, Trump Accepts

“Make my day” said Biden to Trump in a Tweet, challenging Trump to a debate. Two debates are set. Trump seeks two more. What just happened? Think about that. I propose an answer below.

Yesterday, commented Biden Challenges Trump to a Debate, Trump Accepts, Advantage Whom?

What Just Happened?

Biden is so far behind in the swing state polls, that he needs to win these debate. If Biden was far ahead, it’s highly doubtful that he would go on stage for more than a short debate, and one as late as possible.

Trump cannot turn it down, so he upped the ante to four.

Winning two out of two for Biden will be hard enough. But if Biden flunks the first two he will want more.

Desperation Sets In

Agreeing to put Biden on the stage twice and now Kamala Harris is an amazing act of desperation.

I see no reason for Trump to do anything but drool over a VP debate.

Pick Tulsi

I have a suggestion for Trump, pick Tulsi. She fits all the needs: young, woman, moderate on abortion, non-white, excellent military service record, not a warmongering neocon, and an excellent speaker.

I believe Trump will win anyway, but the Addition of Tulsi could turn the election into an amazing rout.

Tulsi Gabbard Gives a Fabulous Speech at CPAC 2024,

Please consider Tulsi Gabbard Gives a Fabulous Speech at CPAC 2024, What’s Next?

Former US Representative Tulsi Gabbard addresses CPAC 2024. She gave a great speech, 18 minutes long. Play it.

Opening Snips

“Hi. Thank you thank you so much. Aloha.

It’s wonderful to see you all here again at such a critical time. Our democracy is under attack. The perpetrator of this attack are those who in the name of saving our democracy are destroying it. I don’t use these words lightly every one of us who loves this country and who cherishes Peace and Freedom should be very alarmed by those who driven by their insatiable hunger for power are actively undermining all that we stand for and almost every single day.

If you’re paying attention to the news and the headlines there is some new assault and some new attack. Now it’s the Democrat Elite and the swamp creatures in Washington who are doing all that they possibly can to keep us the American people from a very simple thing having the freedom to choose we want to be our next president. And it is clear through their actions they have no respect for us and they have no respect for our rights as Citizens of this Democratic Republic.

They are so terrified that we may make what they think is the wrong choice that in the of protecting democracy and saving us from ourselves they’re actually destroying our democracy and taking away our freedom now.

We look throughout history and we can see many examples of evildoers who find some justification who believe that they are doing the right thing and so today we see the Democrat Elites say with great concern in their voice that if the American Donald Trump again they warn us he will destroy our democracy they say he will be the dictator and chief that if he’s elected it will be the last election this country sees. It is so crazy. It’s laughable, but they’re justifying their actions by telling themselves that they need to destroy our democracy in order to save it.

Powerful

Some will agree with that message and some won’t.

But whether or not you agree, she delivered a powerful message, flawlessly.

It does not sound like she used a teleprompter.

Trump Says Tulsi Gabbard Is on His VP Short List

On February 21, I noted Trump Says Tulsi Gabbard Is on His VP Short List

What does Senator Tim Scott, also rumored to be on the short list, do for the ticket. Can he electrify any audience? Any constituency? Even blacks?

Worst Choices

The worst choices for Trump would be Kari Lake and Vivek Ramaswamy.

Lake cost Republicans the Arizona governorship. Fortunately, she was not mentioned on the short list.

Independents, Women, and Moderates

Wikipedia notes Gabbard has generally supported legal abortion through the first 20 weeks of pregnancy, though her views on abortion have changed over time. That is a huge plus over the typical Republican Neandertal.

For more details, please see Wikipedia’s Political Opinions of Tulsi Gabbard.

She has switched opinions on a number of items, having even backed Bernie Sanders. The Republican base won’t like that, but so what?

Where is the base going besides nowhere? The base will not decide the next election.

The more Trump can distance himself from the base, the better his chances.

Gabbard would be an excellent pick who would genuinely bring some energy to the ticket beyond the base.

I don’t expect Trump to pick Tulsi, but she, or someone like her, will be the future of the party.

People Who Rent Will Decide the 2024 Presidential Election

Immigration won’t decide the election. Polls have not yet captured what will. This may come as a surprise, but the top issue housing. More explicitly, it’s shelter costs.

Image courtesy of Axios + Generation Lab Youth Poll

I am sticking with my assessment People Who Rent Will Decide the 2024 Presidential Election

More specifically, it will be a smaller subset of renters who hold the fate: Young voters and minorities.

Gabbard would appeal to both more than any other possible pick I can think of. And if you play the above video, it will be clear Tulsi would smash Kamala Harris in a debate, with the whole nation watching.

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Casual Observer
Casual Observer
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

This is funny. The point was about Tulsi who is at best 1/8 Samoan and 7/8 white.It would actually take a DNA test to prove this. If we are going this far, then we are all descendants of some black caveman from Africa.

Funny hearing a white person tell me what multicultural is. I had ancestors on 3 continents (Europe, Asia and Africa).

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

It was just an educated guess. But I just did some more research on great grandparents. It turns out Mike Gabbard’s grandparents are from Kentucky and Germany (via Samoa). So 1/8 Samoan is a stretch. It’s probably more like 1/16 or 1/32.

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
2 years ago
Last edited 2 years ago by rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
2 years ago

Sounds like an uneducated guess to most of us here.
This digression is not so difficult to resolve. She is 1/4 Samoan.
link to pbs.org

Webej
Webej
2 years ago

Educated guess? On what basis?

Many examples of people with Chinese eyes (etc) born 3 generations later, after the whole family had forgotten the unfortunate liaison while grand uncle was sailing the world, accusing the mother falsely of infidelity.
Go look at any multi-ethnic family, and see how often siblings have markedly different expressions of the same genetic heritage.

Yes, statistics and genetics are often not common sensical and require more than casual observation..

deadbeatloser
deadbeatloser
2 years ago

its possible you have 1/164th Canine in your blood there tough-guy.

Ryan
Ryan
2 years ago

So white people are incapable of defining simple words? Seems like some kind of supremacist to me, but as a white guy I’m probably not capable of understanding which kind. Perhaps you can help?

deadbeatloser
deadbeatloser
2 years ago

spoken like a true racial supremist …i bet you are Chinese…the superior race> in the eyes of themselves.

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

In case it wasn’t clear. There’s nothing to challenge here. She is white.

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
2 years ago

How are you going to break that to all those mixed race people out there who think they are “black”?

deadbeatloser
deadbeatloser
2 years ago

why does she surf like a monkey then??

Dusty Cat
Dusty Cat
2 years ago

My choices for Vice President is Stefanik or Gabbard. Either would demolish Harris in a debate.

MI6
MI6
2 years ago

I doubt that Gabbard’s race is going to make a big difference. Samoans have no votes in the electoral college. Possibly Harris being partially black picked up a few votes but I’d guess 99% would have voted for Biden anyway. As regards the Indian 50%, I don’t think that made any difference to anyone at all.

I recall Harris in the presidential debates where she melodramatically and clumsily called Biden a racist. I’m not a great fan of Biden but one thing, he’s not a racist and Harris, despite her obvious limitations, knows that. Evidence that any captain of a high school debating team would mop up the floor with her. Biden might well be senile, but letting Harris debate indicates he’s insane.

Well, God willing, in a few months Trump will be in jail and Biden will be in a nursing home and America will have some candidates who are 1) not abrasively divisive ,and 2) not just too damn old for the job.

Last edited 2 years ago by MI6
Dean
Dean
2 years ago

Tulsi would rip Kamala to shreds. The presidential debate that took place years ago is a nice prelude. I hope this is the path.

MI6
MI6
2 years ago
Reply to  Dean

Yep. What I just said. Glad to have that confirmed. If it wasn’t because it was for the leadership of this country a Kamala/Tulsi debate would be the greatest comedy show ever to air on prime time.

Bam_Man
Bam_Man
2 years ago

“Politics is the entertainment division of the Military-Industrial Complex.”
— Frank Zappa

deadbeatloser
deadbeatloser
2 years ago

Tulsi should have been the Democrats Nominee in 2020. She SMOKED the others in the primary debate, but the establishment HATES independent voices and ideas. As a fellow SURFER, Tulsi has always had my endorsement.

Thetenyear
Thetenyear
2 years ago

Biden won’t run. Kamala will be removed as well. Removing Biden will be easy to explain. Kamala not so much. The only way they can sell this is by putting a black woman at the top of the ticket.

If they keep the Biden/Harris it means they want to tank America and blame it on Trump. Why else would they keep Biden and Harris?

Bam_Man
Bam_Man
2 years ago
Reply to  Thetenyear

Could that black “woman” be Michelle Obama?

Thetenyear
Thetenyear
2 years ago
Reply to  Bam_Man

Ding Ding Ding!

MI6
MI6
2 years ago
Reply to  Bam_Man

I don’t see Michelle on any ticket. I don’t think she wants the job, it’s just too much work. She just enjoys being a celebrity.

Bam_Man
Bam_Man
2 years ago
Reply to  MI6

Let’s hope so.

RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago

“They are so terrified that we may make what they think is the wrong choice that in the of protecting democracy and saving us from ourselves they’re actually destroying our democracy and taking away our freedom now.”

To Democrats, “protecting our democracy” is code for protecting their Democrat Party political agenda. Trump was impeached by Democrats in an attempt to prevent democracy. A Democrat politician said they had to impeach Trump because people might vote the wrong way. The current Democrat run trials against Trump are more of the same, an attempt to prevent democracy. Law professor Jonathan Turley said that Judge Mechant should go to a direct verdict and declare a mistrial. That’s how corrupt this prosecution is.

Richard F
Richard F
2 years ago

Am of mind there are two qualifications for Trumps VP pick.

First whomever it is should demonstrate they are capable of being President if Trump should Die or become incapacitated. Nation has suffered enough under Mr. Potato head and his accomplice in stupidity.

Secondly Trump needs demonstrate there is more to MAGA then a slogan. It is a movement and whomever gets chosen as VP should reflect that they are capable of continuing the movement.

Shock me, but this election choice is about knocking some sense back into the way America works. That would take a person of particular strength and ability. A placeholder will not do.

Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
2 years ago

We can safely assume that no one asked Kamala about it.

Yes, she’s that important.
.

Blurtman
Blurtman
2 years ago

Tulsi is non-white? Mish, do you follow the one drop rule? Her mom is white. Her dad at least part white. Mitt Romney’s dad was born in Mexico. I guess we know what that means.

Last edited 2 years ago by Blurtman
deadbeatloser
deadbeatloser
2 years ago
Reply to  Blurtman

that Mitt R is a Beaner?

MI6
MI6
2 years ago
Reply to  Blurtman

Mitt’s dad’s parents were 100% white Americans just living in Mexico at the time, in case that needs to be clarified. It’s unfortunate Mitt’s dad George, who worked himself up from hanging wallpaper to being head of AMC and a beloved (you don’t hear that much in politics) governor of Michigan when Detroit was still the manufacturing capital of the world, didn’t win the 1968 election. I met him a few times. He was the real deal. Mitt is not the man his dad was although you could certainly do worse than him as a president.

vboring
vboring
2 years ago

A great VP is the only thing that would get me to vote.

I don’t know if I am a great litmus test, but that was my entire reaction.

Biden or Trump could win this by picking an optimistic competent moderate to be the adult in the room. I don’t see Harris that way, but I know almost nothing about her.

deadbeatloser
deadbeatloser
2 years ago
Reply to  vboring

got Pence?

Luke
Luke
2 years ago
Reply to  deadbeatloser

They said “competent moderate”, not fundamentalist nut

Mark
Mark
2 years ago
Reply to  Luke

Is Curtis Lemay still around he’d be a good choice

Webej
Webej
2 years ago

You pretty much nailed it.

It is strong people if people are able to change their mind, as long as they are principled.
Trump, unfortunately, cannot even grasp what a principle even is.

matt3
matt3
2 years ago

I think Tulsi is the perfect selection. A former Dem is what is needed to show that the Democrat party has left it’s voters and no longer represents them. It’s the party of the elite and the parasites rather than those that work.

deadbeatloser
deadbeatloser
2 years ago
Reply to  matt3

like Joe Liberman did ?

Patrick
Patrick
2 years ago

Samoans have a deep warrior tradition. Wait, I thought Whitey was the origin of all warfare and colonization! Tulsi v. Kammy would be a 1st round knockout.

Media Hyp
Media Hyp
2 years ago

Unfortunately President Trump will not be happy with anyone who can stand on their own. Having seen what a principled constitutionalist could do, he will not risk a quiet work in the background Pence type either. It is most likely to be a charlatan, bosses usually fall for those types easily.

Felix
Felix
2 years ago

For all who are interested in Tulsi’s genealogy:

https://gw.geneanet.org/tdowling?lang=en&pz=timothy+michael&nz=dowling&p=gerald+michael&n=gabbard

Gets to a tree for her father, who comes from Samoa by way of his mother – and by birth location. Tulsi’s father’s father’s mother also appears to be Island (“Island” for some of this 1800’s crew including, perhaps, New Zealand.)

So, by the one drop rule (so hammered in to us by our Southernified, super-US-race-category obsessed media), she’s Samoan. Presumably, American Samoan, that is, so she’s a Yank.

AussiePete56
AussiePete56
2 years ago

I’m pretty sure that they use three teleprompters so that the speaker can look around the room while still reading their speech….

Micheal Engel
Micheal Engel
2 years ago

Tim Scott and Mindy are a better pair than Gamala and Doug Emhoff.

john
john
2 years ago

Have to agree with others who feel this so called debate will be so edited and managed by the Democrat media that Trump will be creatively made to look inept.

Micheal Engel
Micheal Engel
2 years ago
Reply to  john

Trump will use the Jan 7 “event” to attack the media and the DOJ, Nancy and St Pence. Attack, attack, attack…

Michiganmoon
Michiganmoon
2 years ago
Reply to  john

Yes. The mainstream propaganda media has scripted debates before to tilt the odds to their preferred candidate. Will happen again.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/donna-brazile-hillary-clinton-leak-regret-236184#:~:text=Brazile%20also%20told%20the%20campaign,the%20documents%20were%20%E2%80%9Cmisinformation.%E2%80%9D

Micheal Engel
Micheal Engel
2 years ago

Tim Scott will beat the Shoot of Gamala. Trump/ Scott is a better pair, especially if
the Dow misbehave. Beyond Trump, Scott will be a better president to lead the US until
the end of this decade. Forget about Tulsi.

Woodsie Guy
Woodsie Guy
2 years ago

In response to other comments here, why does Tulsi’s ethnicity matter? Am I missing something?

Last edited 2 years ago by Woodsie Guy
Casual Observer
Casual Observer
2 years ago
Reply to  Woodsie Guy

I agree with you there. It is funny watching people so easily convinced.

Last edited 2 years ago by Casual Observer
Fast Bear
Fast Bear
2 years ago
Reply to  Woodsie Guy

Like Trump she talks the talk.
Trump delivered nothing of merit.
?
Trump wants a dolt – he would never pick anyone who stole his limelight.
It’s like insecure hot girls with fatty best friend girlfriends.
Expect nothing less of a narcissist.

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

She’s definitely sexier than Casual Observer.

Luke
Luke
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Lol I dont think they are reublicans!

deadbeatloser
deadbeatloser
2 years ago
Reply to  Woodsie Guy

it matters to the RayCiss morons

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
2 years ago

Pardon me while I laugh at rhe Tulsi Gabbard is not white comments. BAHAHAHHAA

Last edited 2 years ago by Casual Observer
deadbeatloser
deadbeatloser
2 years ago

i like a chick with a nice tan

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
2 years ago

Foe anyone who thinks Tulsi Gabbard is not white, here is a bit more on her dad. Im.Hindu and this is all wacky to even me. The Hare Krishna movement is a huge money scam.

Gabbard is married.[34] A socially conservative Catholic, Gabbard serves as a lector at St. Jude Catholic Church in Makakilo, Hawaii.[35][36][37] In the 1970s, Gabbard and his wife became devotees of Chris Butler, whom they called Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa, who founded the Science of Identity Foundation; Gabbard’s sister described it as the “alt-right of the Hare Krishna movement.” Gabbard became vegetarian and gave his children Hindu names.[38]

I’m sort of shocked that Mish and others get fooled so easily.. I had respect for Mish and others here until now.

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

I never expected any respect. I am a commenter and this is your blog. You should hold yourself to a higher standard than any commenter here.

Zeno
Zeno
2 years ago

If you red the article (or did you look only at the pictures?) and you did not find any thing more intelligent to talk about than her skin color you better go for a walk.

deadbeatloser
deadbeatloser
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

keep for entertainments sake

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
2 years ago

You’re not Hindu, you’re pasty white liberal in a rented box room in a Democrat city.

Six000MileYear
Six000MileYear
2 years ago

Pay attention to the synchronization of Biden’s lips and the audio. If I were going to assist Biden during a live event, I would overdub Biden’s voice on live video.

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
2 years ago

Can Trump debate Biden from a jail cell ?

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
2 years ago

Great optics though… nothing like a developing world authoritarian kleptocracy at all…

Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
2 years ago

Perhaps from a low-security prison golf course?

deadbeatloser
deadbeatloser
2 years ago

yes You ever hear of ZOOM or MSTeams?

JakeJ
JakeJ
2 years ago

I would refer N.D. Gov. Doug Burgum for the qualifications to be president if need be, but for the politics I would go for Winsome Sears, the lt. gov. of Virginia. Both solid conservatives.Tulsi Gabbard is too quirky. Trump needs to look more presidential, if he could bring himself to do it, to attract voters who worry (appropriately so) about his volatility and craziness.

Last edited 2 years ago by JakeJ
deadbeatloser
deadbeatloser
2 years ago
Reply to  JakeJ

they gotta be Good-Looking, at least to the non-blind

Dr Funkenstein
Dr Funkenstein
2 years ago

I think I’ll watch “Gillian’s Island” to see if they get off the island rather than Heels Up Harris and whatever fool the Trump selects talk.

Frederick
Frederick
2 years ago
Reply to  Dr Funkenstein

Gilligan

Sky Wizard
Sky Wizard
2 years ago

Little Vivek is jumping up and down shouting “Pick me! Pick MEEEEEEEEE!”

steve
steve
2 years ago

Seeing as the DNC is willing to sacrifice Biden, they will need to get rid of the vapid, cackling hyena as well.

steve
steve
2 years ago

Yes. Tulsi is an excellent choice.

Eric Vahlbusch
Eric Vahlbusch
2 years ago

It’s all a massive set up. They will ambush Trump in debate one. And debate two will never happen. Or by then Joe’s upcoming medical event will have occurred and the debate called off.

Trump should have agreed to the debates only if both candidates took drug tests before and after.

This just too cute. Something nefarious is being planned.

Sky Wizard
Sky Wizard
2 years ago
Reply to  Eric Vahlbusch

Oh me! Oh My! Joe might say mean things to him, and the moderator might cut his mic when his time is up so he can’t just spew dementia soup for the whole time.

You losers are always foaming the runway, and trying to be victims, because you know, and not all that deep down, that you are losers, and you are going to lose.

Bill
Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  Sky Wizard

You mean like 2016 when Hillary was provided the questions in advance? That type of victimhood?

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
2 years ago
Reply to  Sky Wizard

Oh me! Oh My! Don might say mean things to him, and the moderator might cut his mic when his time is up so he can’t just spew dementia soup for the whole time.
You losers are always foaming the runway, and trying to be victims, because you know, and not all that deep down, that you are losers, and you are going to lose.

Michiganmoon
Michiganmoon
2 years ago
Reply to  Sky Wizard

If you think the mainstream media which is calling Trump a threat to democracy won’t rig debates against him, when they’ve rigged debates in the recent past, you’re extremely naive.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/donna-brazile-hillary-clinton-leak-regret-236184#:~:text=Brazile%20also%20told%20the%20campaign,the%20documents%20were%20%E2%80%9Cmisinformation.%E2%80%9D

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
2 years ago
Reply to  Eric Vahlbusch

Agree. There’s no way CNN and ABC aren’t going to ambush Trump. He was dumb to agree to these debates so easily. He’s going to get a bunch of uncomfortable questions.

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
2 years ago

It’s all going to be echo chamber politics with CNN/ABC preaching to their choir.

Roto1711
Roto1711
2 years ago

Trump should decline any Debate moderated by CBS or any other lame stream media especially as it will not be live before an audience. Why are all the presidential debates moderated by liberal outlets anyway? Beware President Trump, it is a set up!

Sky Wizard
Sky Wizard
2 years ago
Reply to  Roto1711

He should stay in his nice safe club, drivin’ hamberders into that gut.

Tony
Tony
2 years ago

Is Ms. Harris still around? The lowest key VP in history.

What are her duties?

Roto1711
Roto1711
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony

Her only duties are to cackle and make a fool of the vice presidency.

Neal
Neal
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony

Potatoe Quayle was a pathetic VP pick but he is a Rhodes Scholar compared to Cameltoe Harris.
Tulsi ticks lots of boxes; female, non white, excellent military service record and not a warmonging neocon.
A bit too liberal for my taste but that will appeal to the voters in the middle.

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock
Last edited 2 years ago by Casual Observer
rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
2 years ago

Tulsi is self-evidently mixed ethnicity, only an idiot or a liar would call her “white”.

deadbeatloser
deadbeatloser
2 years ago

why does her first name sound foreign to me, shouldn’t it be Lisa, Michelle, Marsha, etc ??

Sky Wizard
Sky Wizard
2 years ago
Reply to  Neal

Lash her to the future felon in diapers, and none of that matters one bit.

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
2 years ago
Reply to  Sky Wizard

You can zip your pants up now, but careful not to dislodge your undescended testicles.

rinky stingpiece
rinky stingpiece
2 years ago

Mike is mixed race, you need your eyes, brain, or mouth (or fingers) testing.

deadbeatloser
deadbeatloser
2 years ago

i am of the PURE race, how about you?

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