Let’s tune into what two prominent Republicans are willing to publicly say. 
You Can Trust the Vote Count
Please consider You Can Trust the Vote Count by Brad Raffensperger, Republican Sec of State of Georgia, and Deidre Henderson, Utah Lieutenant Governor.
In Georgia, a claim that election machines were “vote flipping”—switching a voter’s choice to a different candidate—in Whitfield County went viral with the aid of Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene. Local officials inspected on the spot and let the voter void the printed ballot and cast a new one. Officials concluded that human error most likely had happened. Not long after, a video surfaced of a purported Haitian immigrant with several Georgia-issued IDs claiming to have voted multiple times. Federal authorities said it was a Russian disinformation operation. In Laurel County, Ky., an allegation of vote-flipping similar to the one in Georgia was shared on TikTok and X. Staff tried and failed to re-create the issue and pulled the machine from service for further investigation. The county clerk confirmed that the voter who took the video ultimately cast her ballot with her intended choices.
In Pennsylvania a video that claimed to show an out-of-state man delivering hundreds of ballots to an election site actually depicted a local postmaster doing his job. In Michigan, someone posted on social media a screen shot of government data that showed multiple rows of addresses linked to a single voter ID and used it to argue that one voter had cast multiple ballots. The secretary of state’s office said it was a data-display error.
Mistakes happen, and acknowledging them is necessary for transparency and trust. A polling station in Pennsylvania, for example, erred last week by closing prematurely. In response, a judge extended the period for voters to apply for mail-ballot applications in person. In Michigan, one noncitizen college student was discovered to have voted. In Colorado, the secretary of state’s office mistakenly exposed passwords to voting machines—an error that couldn’t be exploited because the machines aren’t connected to the internet and are accessible only by officials.
Stop the Steal
Donald Trump lost every 2020 Stop the Steal claim in Federal courts, all with Republican-appointed judges. In some cases they were Trump-appointed judges.
Stop the Steal lawyers made one set of claims in public and had a different tune in court because there are severe penalties for lying to a judge.
Every video posted by the Gateway Pundit and other garbage outlets has been debunked, by Republicans.
No Matter Who Wins
I have a guaranteed safe prediction for 2024. No matter who wins (I think Trump will), the other side will howl unless it’s a blowout for Trump and he wins the popular vote too.
Hell, not even that will stop the howling.
Expect Epic Screaming
The losing side will find 4 ballots of dead people voting who were registered for the other party (ignoring the 4 dead voters who registered for their party).
Similarly both sides will find 50 non-citizens voting, or whatever and scream.
They Want to, So they Did
I was involved in a heated discussion with three friends over the past few days. I am pleased to report we will still be friends no matter what happens.
It was 2-2. Two of my friends presented arguments that Democrats want illegals to vote. This somehow morphed into a million of them doing so.
Two of us found that idea preposterous.
Spotlight Pennsylvania and Virginia
This year, in Pennsylvania, officials found 2,500 bogus registration applications in one county and 30 in another.
In Virginia there were another 1,600 or so people who “may” have been illegally registered. Closer inspection found the number was 30, and they were removed from the rolls.
From this we arrive at millions of illegals are likely to vote.
Virginia Purges Suspected Noncitizens
On October 30, CNN reported Supreme Court allows Virginia to purge suspected noncitizens from voter registration rolls
The decision, issued without reasoning from a majority of conservative justices, will allow the state to keep off the rolls certain voters it suspects of being noncitizens.
The court’s three liberals – Justices Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson – dissented. The liberals did not explain their reasoning.
Legal experts, meanwhile, were unable to parse meaning from the court’s decision because of the lack of explanation. While that is not uncommon on the court’s “shadow docket,” where emergency cases are usually handled, the court does sometimes leave clues to its rationale in high-profile cases.
In this case, the majority said nothing.
Spotlight Georgia
Trump and other Republicans have seized on claims of illegal voting and that was part of the argument they made to explain the former president’s loss in 2020. But documented cases of noncitizens voting are extremely rare. A recent Georgia audit of the 8.2 million people on its rolls found just 20 registered noncitizens – only nine of whom had voted.
Ok, Democrats, at least the Democrat elite, would like to allow illegals to vote.
Because they want that, two of my friends think they will. Two of us ask: where’s the evidence?
There isn’t any and won’t be any. .
Voting Day
I believe in voting day, not voting month. I also think one should have to display a picture ID to vote.
Having voting month instead of day, by mail-in vote, without a doubt encourages fraud.
Also, some small number of people die between when they cast their ballot and election day.
Even more problematic are people with Alzheimer’s or other mentally impaired persons have someone else cast their ballots for them.
In-person voting, with IDs, would put an end to all of these issues.
But we are talking a few thousand votes nationally. Triple or even quadruple that and it would not have decided any state in 2020 let alone the election.
Mirror Test
Unless a tipping state is decided by fewer than 10,000 votes (in which there will be a recount), this is what I propose Trump and Harris do.
- Walk to a mirror
- Look straight at the mirror
- Say to the person in the mirror “I lost the election mostly because I was a fool.”
If Trump loses it will be because of his arrogant comeuppance and refusal to prepare for a debate with Harris.
If Harris loses it will be because she refused to distance herself from Biden.
Neither candidate made a real effort to reach out to moderates.
If the economy and immigration override abortion and Trump’s narcissism and arrogance, he will win.
If not, then Harris will win, despite herself. Telling The View she would not have changed anything Biden did was quite telling.
The number of unforced errors by each person is stunning. It is conceivable Trump loses Pennsylvania by having an idiot comedian poke fun at Puerto Rico.
Be Prepared for Anything
Don’t tell me you know who will win because you don’t. And no matter who wins don’t tell me the election was stolen.
Finally, do be prepared for primal screams no matter wins, because the losing party will ignore everything I said above.
If you are looking for extreme idiocy, I can help. Check this out: Joe Rogan and Elon Musk agree that if Donald Trump doesn’t win this will be the last election.
Both sides are making similar statements.
Here’s a Final Look at the Polls With the Vote Half Over
Yesterday, I commented Here’s a Final Look at the Polls With the Vote Half Over
Close polls don’t mean a close election. Interestingly, Nate Silver blasts the pollsters.
A few news polls came in today and they did not change anything significant.
I believe Trump will win based on the economy.
For discussion, please see Excluding Government, Year-Over-Year Employment Is Negative 9 Straight Months
I am open to the idea that the economy won’t decide the election.
If Harris wins, Trump needs to look in the mirror to see who to blame, and vice versa.
This was one hell of a pathetic campaign. Someone will win anyway.
¹Without adequate controls it is impossible to even gauge how much voting fraud there is. The fact that some ‘glitches’ are caught doesn’t mean the system is working; it’s like most crime, the risk of being caught is very small.
²Many anecdotes prove to be nonsense, but they are only possible because there is such a lack of transparency, lack of controls, and unnecessary complications
Why would the USA not be able to fix the system and have uncontroversial vote counting like all other Western democracies? … obviously on purpose. Why haven’t they banned the electronic voting machines like many other countries have? It is not fraud that you are banning, but the mere semblance. Perception matters.
³Why do almost all the anecdotes lean the same way?
⁴There are actually hundreds of court cases involving voting irregularities where convicted people have been sentenced.
⁵There were decades of poli-sci literature on anomalies (statistical and otherwise) before the Trump thing ever got started.
⁶Wasn’t it LBJ who became governor despite allegations of vote fixing which later proves to be true?
⁷Committees that have studied actual ballots and voting records etc., in certain jurisdictions have found thousands of anomalies in various categories.
Mish, greetings from Europe.
Since there are no ID checks, anyone from anywhere can vote as many times as they wish. Expect nothing but chaos and millions of fake votes.
Astounding how naiive and idiotic the American election system is. you will be the laughingstock in world’s eyes very soon.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Seriously it does not work that way.
Sheeesh
“Donald Trump lost every 2020 Stop the Steal claim in Federal courts….”
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Fact Check: False.
Most of the suits were dismissed without facts being entered into evidence or ruled upon.
Mish,
A couple of questions:
1. If elections are so clean why do states (mainly ones with democrat majorities) refuse to clean up their voter rolls and have to be used to even start the process?
2. Why does the Biden/Harris administration refuse to verify citizenship status requests by the various sti and also has to sued as a result?
What evidence do you have that democratic states refuse to clean up their voter rolls? I live in CA, and we definitely clean up our rolls here periodically, we just don’t do it immediately before an election in an attempt to disenfranchise voters.
Some states do others don’t. They all should. I posted my beliefs about voting in person with an ID.
I also stated than in every election there is fraud. But don’t be one of those who takes 1,500 and makes it 1,000,000.
Trump’s own lawyers had to back off such nonsense in court.
Biden/Harris would prefer illegals to vote. I never said otherwise. But look at PA. Officials caught an attempt.
And in Georgia, reviewing 8 million ballots found a grand total of 9 illegals actually voting.
There’s potential and there’s reality. By yeah, I would like to stop those 9.
Mish,
Interesting article, but to see how amnesty for illegal immigrants changes the voting characteristics of a state just look at California.
Solid republican until after amnesty changed it.
Repeat the amnesty and the entire USA changes…to a solid block of democrat states.
Fact.
PS:
Also take a look at how the democrat uniparty has wrecked the state of Hawaii as well.
Their Senator is a dingbat and she keeps getting elected.
As Sen. Fetterman stated on Joe Rogan, it isn’t the illegal votes, it is the reapportionment of representation (due to counting non-citizens in the census) to blue states from red. That is the direct line to democrat control.
“As Sen. Fetterman stated on Joe Rogan, it isn’t the illegal votes, it is the reapportionment of representation (due to counting non-citizens in the census) to blue states from red. That is the direct line to democrat control.”
Sorry – but human flight from California mainly went to red states that got more representation. And these people vote!
At this stage in the collapse of social trust, the burden of proof is now on the election system, to prove it’s not as corrupted as everything else already is.
Proof by assertion is not proof.
And absence of evidence is not evidence of absence: many fraud possibilities would go unnoticed much less reported.
At this point we also need clear examples of squeaky-clean checks and balances in operation, just to deter petty fraud. So far the stories I’ve read simply show that there’s tons of anxiety about that … not enough to alleviate anyone’s worries.
well said.I came to post a similar sentiment but cannot add anything to improve upon it. Cheers!
You accepted proof by assertion that the voting process is corrupt. The only evidence any of you nutbara have came from Donald Trump, With absolutely no supporting evidence.
No different than trusting the science. Operation Warp Speed ahead and flatten the curve!!!
Ballot harvesting is hard to prove. If you did program the machines to do anything they can be accessed via wifi and in a few cases the machine Internet access was left on. It takes 3 minutes and a serial port connector to reflash the firmware. With a dongle octopus, I suspect 10 at a time could be reflashed. They often erased the machine memory cards to avoid an audit. 2020 was death by 1000 cheats and of course, statistically an individual cheat had no impact on election. Add them all up. There is a Brookings website with all the people convicted on the web
This is one of your best posts. Great unbiased insight. Thank you.
LOL, who do you think you are convincing by citing CNN and Raffensperger? Don’t answer that, it’s obviously a rhetorical question.
“Prominent” to whom? These two RINO cucks are a joke. How much BS can the government try to pull on you and still believe them? JFK ‘lone gunman’, Building 7, ‘safe & effective’. Give me a break.
Weaponizing the government against political opponents is not the hallmark of a free and fair election. Lawfare is election corruption. Prosecution of Trump was politically corrupt. Attempts to keep Trump and Kennedy off certain state ballots, was election corruption, as well. We have a corrupt mainstream media, which is in the tank for the Democrat candidate. The one presidential debate was two Democrat moderators and Democrat candidate, against Trump. Not at all free and fair.
I noticed in this story that federal authorities played the Russian disinfo card. Let’s remember that our own government produces disinformation.
RINOs can’t be trusted
… if you’re a trump simp.
Illegals that are counted in the census are used for congressional district apportionment and federal funds.
“The court’s three liberals – Justices Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson – dissented.”
They have no problem with illegal voting. They expect it to favor them. They also had no problem with mandating the Covid shot, which was neither safe or effective.
I read once where in last election, Trump won all 50 states by in person voting and Biden all 50 states of mail in ballots. I went back several days later and the article stating that was gone and I couldn’t verify that thru checking a couple of states web sites. Anybody have any data to support or refute that?
I believe this is false – UT for example
Someone will win, anyway.
Define “win” because a choice like this is no choice at all. Its a sign of terminal illness on a national level.
Two of my friends presented arguments that Democrats want illegals to vote. This somehow morphed into a million of them doing so. Two of us found that idea preposterous.
What’s preposterous is that this regime imported millions and millions and MILLIONS and MILLIONS of illegal immigrants, not merely opening the door to let them in but organizing financial resources to NGOs that advertised the way there and organized aid and support and transport the whole length of the trip on our dime [or dollar, as it may be], then providing hotels for them once they got here, again on our dollar.
The perpetually dodged question is, why? Does America really need THAT much field labor and domestic service and restaurant staff?
Or does the Democrat Party require vast numbers of poor to naturalize & form a colossus at the polls, the so-called Poverty Power that Mao Tse-Dong formulated and Hugo Chavez institutionalised in his Bolivarian revolution in Venezuela?
Nah. Must be just our taste for slave labor. Voter importation is preposterous!
“Even more problematic are people with Alzheimer’s or other mentally impaired persons have someone else cast their ballots for them.
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But we are talking a few thousand votes nationally. Triple or even quadruple that and it would not have decided any state in 2020 let alone the election.”
If I’m interpreting the ‘Voting Day’ section correctly, Mish is significantly underestimating the number of people with impaired mental acuity who get ‘help’ voting.
Age 65+ there are (roughly) 7 million said to be afflicted with Alzheimer’s in the U.S., another 200K younger than 65, and other varieties of dementia/degeneration (such as FTLD) affect an unknown number. While these individuals are in varying states of decline, the number who are impaired to the point that they would need assistance to fill out/cast their ballot is surely more than 1 million. This is not to speculate how many of that group are “helped” by someone in their family, care facility, or activist going to a nursing home, but I’m quite certain it occurs a lot more than quadruple a few thousand times given how accessible voting and absentee ballots have become.
https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/alz.13809
A long post, to complain about some unfortunate older Americans.
The point was that substantially more votes are cast in the name of someone with diminished mental capacity and facilitated by someone else than Mish stated.
To conclude that the point was complaining about the victims of certain ailments is seriously wrong. Hopefully you just lost something in translation.
I’m a WA State resident and appreciate our vote by mail system that begins with voter info packets that explain whats going on then allows plenty of time to review and to fill out the ballot… but I do think national elections should be on a Monday and a holiday as well and that ballots should be hand marked and hand-counted in public.
No voter ID necessary and yet somehow no voter fraud of any consequence happens? I would say that one guarantees the other happening. Not gaming this loophole goes against human nature.
On the other hand having totally secure elections as they have in Europe doesn’t guarantee that total dumbass do not get into power. One look at their current politicians and we have nothing to be ashamed of when it comes to quality.
I would agree that one of the main problems is the “talent pool” (or “talentlessness puddle”) from which the candidates everywhere tend to come from. I personally put this down to a rabid out-of-control media industry that depends on whipping up emotions to make money.
It’s probably because good leaders are truly rare in humans and mediocre ones are the norm. Anyone who has worked a company could agree to that.
While I agree that voter ID should be required at the polls, the insinuation that without it there is now massive fraud (or at least an amount of fraud to make a difference in the elections) is complete and utter nonsense.
If there really was a lot of “pretend voter” fraud out there then you would see many instances where folks (i.e., the real voter) going out to the polls and not being allowed to vote because the rolls indicate that they had already voted.
The truth is that this hardly ever happens. If it was true, then you’d see masses of folks screaming on Fox News, claiming that they were turned away at the polls because someone else had already voted in their name… and you don’t see it.
Sorry Tinfoil folks, but Mish has it 100% right on this topic.
Fake ballots cannot scream nor protest. They just show up and are counted. Turning people away from the voting booth is so obvious that nobody does it. Imagine you wanted to rig an election and think about the best way to do it. I bet you could come up with several ways. If you can imagine it then others can too. You cannot expect that the parties are all run by honest upright people. They are in it to win and nothing else counts. Give them a loophole and they will use it. Human nature.
Parties and candidates spend hundreds of millions of dollars on Presidential and Senate races. People willing to risk that much money are willing to cheat to win. It is human nature.
Heck, I have family members who cheat at board games simply because they hate to lose. We know for a fact that if a system accommodates cheating, people will cheat. Those who deny voter / ballot fraud are denying human nature.
What do fake ballots have to do with impostor voters at the polls? Fake ballots, if they exist, have nothing to do with people voting fraudulently in place of others. Fake ballots imply fraud perpetrated by election workers which is not what I was talking about.
That said, I have yet to see any proof that election workers are committing fraud on a scale that would make any kind of difference either.
This is all just a sorry excuses for sore losers.
Show me the audit of what ballots were cast and how many were redundant. Show me the audit that reveals that more ballots were cast than eligible voters were known to exist.
Show me where discrepancies between the count of ballots and the count of people who actually requested ballots or showed up to vote are corrected. Of course they are not corrected! In fact just recently it was reported that a known illegally cast ballot has to be counted, for reasons.
This is how fraud ridden American elections are. Even when it is known a voter is illegal, eection officials claim the illegal ballot cannot be removed from the count! Aren’t all ballots numbered? Seems straightforward to me to eliminate a ballot from being counted. If not, why have machines that lack such basic functionality?
You can’t fix stupid.
Serious question: When is the check made to ensure a person has only voted once? Does this vary by state? In Maryland we have mail in ballots, in-person early voting and in-person voting on election day. I am not aware of the timing nor system that would prevent both an in-person vote and a mail in vote from both being accepted.
I believe every state uses an online system that marks someone as having voted. I know when I go to vote the folks that give me the ballot have laptops and they mark me in the database as having voted.
Absentee voting is done with an inter & outer envelope in most states. They mark you as having absentee voted as soon as they receive the outer envelope.
Here in Cali if somebody already voted for you they don’t turn you away, they give you a provisional ballot. I believe the mail-in ballot takes precedence tho unless it comes in later.
In an election in LA county in a district with about 2,000 votes we found 53 double votes, suspect there was substantially more where the registered voter did not vote and the bogus mail-in vote was counted. Probably 5% or so of mail in voter fraud. Found this out working for a friend who was a councilman.
This mail in voting and early voting crap needs to go. Both sides cheat tho in the large Federal elections so it probably balances out.
I think Trump and those around him campaigned amazingly.
They got lucky with that post-sniper photo… that one is a Time magazine cover classic.
His campaign was inept. He should have walked away with this election from the start, Particularly after Butler. But I favor Trump because he is inept. Harris and her crowd have an evil competence about them.
But both are tightly leashed by AIPAC.
Nonsense! Dear Leader ran a flawless campaign, while making 18 holes in one every weekend!
The illegal can become legal citizens with full rights if they serve in the army for 10/15 years. There will be a venezuelan division. A Haitian division. Afriq, Arabs and an Asian divisions. They will fight for their new country. It will be a motivated, larger and more sophisticated army. It will reduce the pressure on latinos and black workers.
To enlist in the US military you have to be a citizen or have a green card and that has not changed.
Hezbollah is a proxy army. They are loyal to Iran not Lebanon. The Iraqi Shia listen to nobody but the Ayatollah. We can build a Gurkha army.
If you think handing foreigners weapons and hoping they are loyal, you should have a chat with King Vortigern who invited the Anglo-Saxons to come in as mercenaries to defend Britain against the Danes some 1500+ years ago… see how that turned out.
Inviting someone in to fight for you has always been a bad idea.
The British empire invited everybody to fight for them from the Hessian
to the Sikhs
‘For You’ in another country is fine (ie Wellington using mercs at Waterloo to defeat Napolean).
‘In for Defense’ as in inside your own country is not. Doug78 clearly has it correct.
The Prussians saved Wellington from defeat. He started to retreat. Napoleon lost in Leipzig, in 1813. Wellington and the Prussians defeated a dead cat bounce.
Are u are talking about Bashar Al Assad of Syria. He invited the Israeli air force to eradicate Hezbollah and Iran, to fight for him.
…or the Byzatine Emperor John VI who invited the Ottoman Turks into Europe as mercenaries to fight his enemies. We see how that turned out.
…or the Visigoths who were invited into the Roman Empire by Emperor Valens in 376 to awe his internal foes. That was a good one.
…or the Sung dynasty whose Emperor invited the Jurchen over to the other side of the Great Wall to fight his foes, only to stay put. Classic move, that!
We learn history so we know WHAT to repeat, apparently.
I liked this video on election predictions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XILXDtVcZkQ
How many counties are in Pennsylvania? If one county found 2,500 bogus applications, how many more were in that county? How many were in Philly and Pittsburgh?
A foreign student in Michigan who illegally registered to vote, did so, then asked for his ballot back. Was he the only one in the whole state, in the whole country? And why is the vote going to count, anyway?
In Colorado, several people said they never got an absentee ballot. But the auditors said that votes were cast for them anyway, and that those votes would count. Further, they would be sent new ballots. Seems to me you can vote twice in CO just by saying you never got your ballot in the mail.
There was no busted water pipe in Atlanta in the 2020 ballot count. If the Blue cities and states want to remove doubts that everyone else has, they have a long way to go.
Are they honest? If so, when did they STOP stuffing ballot boxes in Chicago, in Boston, in New York, in NJ–all the places where every school kid in America learns in US History classes about the big-city Democrat machines? Did the Democrats shut down all these machines, to help Trump, of all people?
Are they incompetent? Why does it seem like all the errors only go one way? Why are the rules so obviously written to encourage fraud and mistakes?
You forgot detroit
Until election officials provide an audit trail of both ballots and voters I will assume the vote is rigged. Is it rigged sufficiently to change outcomes? Yes, I believe so and for this simple logic.
If it were not possible to change election outcomes by rigging the vote then what possible reason do the Democrats have for not wanting voter rolls that are clean and accurate?
It is obvious to me the Democratic party likes to have a very large pool of names of reserve voters sitting on the voter rolls. When and as needed ballots can be created and cast from this reserve pool. Provide a system to detect and prevent this rigging of voter rolls and my confidence in election integrity will improve. Until then, I will believe that any relatively close election can be stolen.
Any logical person can only come to the same conclusion
You are going to personally inspect 100 million votes?
Ridiculous.
“In Michigan, one noncitizen college student was discovered to have voted.”
College educated student thought advanced voting meant voting before becoming citizen.
But then, college isn’t what it used to be.
I trust the election, but not Trump.
It was only four years ago:
Trump’s premature victory claim prompts quick rebukes
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/04/trump-premature-victory-claim-434024
Normal people wait for the official results.
Sounds like how the extreme left declared that all their deranged woke ideology was now mainstream and what everyone agrees with – when it absolutely isn’t, never was, and never will be.
It is if you’re not an angry moron.
“I believe Trump will win based on the economy.”
And what is wrong with 2 straight quarters of at 2.8% or above growth, 4.1% employment, & rising wages that are slightly ahead of inflation?
I’m a Trump guy and from where I stand, the economy is pretty damn good. My anecdotal economic barometer of how many Grizzly tree service dump trucks are at my local gas station every morning remains very high.
Now, the bottom 1/3 are getting hammered, but we’re told many of these are the low information voters who don’t vote anyway. Now, if your point is that these people will be motived to come out and vote, then I’d agree and you’d expect Trump to win by 10%.
But The System isn’t going to let that happen.
The data doesn’t support your contention. The global economy, not just the American economy, is under severe and ongoing chronic stress, and it’s very obvious to most people who get out of their comfort bubble.
And what makes you think the average Joe voter in the US knows anything about global economics?
Let me reiterate, in my neck of the woods, the economy is clipping along at a brisk pace. Period.
Really enjoy the Mish takes but wow does he miss this one completely. Plenty of absolutes and verbal gymnastics in an attempt to make the ‘both sides’ argument. Please stick to economics.
Only in the US of A, we can have a demented president for 4 years and yet people believe that there was no election fraud to install him. No judge will dare accept our country has massive voter fraud.
The legal system is garbage. It only punishes after the crime is committed. And, in this case it dare not do that and reveal our broken and corrupt system to the world
And yes, the deep state is both Rs and Ds. The elections are part of the circus to install someone who is amenable and malleable. If s/he is not then he is harassed and hounded till he becomes so.
And btw, now we have a retarded candidate after a demented President from the Ds. We should be really proud of the quality of national leaders we get
The best to minimize doubt is to have in person voting with ID. That is what most of the civilized world does. Why is the democratic party against this?
Even the “non-civilized world” votes with IDs.
The Democrats want the Illegals to vote, but not this year. Future years after (if) amnesty and when their children born in the United States turn 18. This has all happened in California. 12 million new people and Democrats play the long game if necessary of a few decades. Those amnestied in late 1980’s vote and all the anchor babies born before 2007 can now vote.
“Don’t tell me you know who will win because you don’t.”
Oh but I can tell you that which really matters that will win
Lastly, I can tell you who will lose bigly, almost everyone except the winners above.
Honest, decent, people will win in the end and the corrupt arrogant ignorant will lose, as it always was and always will be.
Political leanings have the ability to drain logic out of people’s brains. No matter how smart they are. The excellent Vertasium channel on YouTube did a very interesting video on this today: https://youtu.be/zB_OApdxcno
Deep State isn’t only the “D”s….
Speaking of “R”s, Mitch McConnell sure is quiet … practicing his bowing/scraping for whoever wins. Romney thinks the vote is fine too….maybe he’ll apply for Secretary of State again.
Here’s one you missed – no fraudulent votes since this was caught before voting happened. Still, makes you wonder … where are the prosecutions?
Everybody Votes runs an office in Lancaster County, where election workers recently found suspicious registration forms among a batch of 2,500 applications delivered last week. Investigators there said at least 60% of those reviewed were fraudulent.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/pennsylvania/article_0cff5ddc-995c-11ef-9015-2702b6d57116.html
Like you said, registration forms are not votes, and the system caught them. Prosecutions better be next.
Problem is nobody knows if the system catches 100% or 99% of the fraudulent registrations or votes. And by the same logic it is possible that less , far less, than 99% of the fraud is detected. Maybe less than 25%, maybe less than 5%. So is it a few thousand not detected or a few million? I don’t know and nor do you so are you willing to bet your life that there isn’t enough fraud to swing an election? And you are betting your life as certain politicians are willing to risk nuclear war.
Lets try to remember the bigger picture than the framers of the Const didnt want the US Prez to have a lot of power, unlike the kings and their henchmen that they had tried so hard to leave behind. It is human fear and dread to have someone to tell you what to do and be around when the sky falls that makes people yearn for kings and dictators. The US Prez cant do very much by design. Send in the Army, appoint a lot of friends to jobs. Thats about it. Lets stop acting like this really means very much.
Allow in 12 million illegals etc…just nothing.
This is a result of “appoint a lot of friends to jobs” in key agencies.
So, given the incompetence that federal and state governments have demonstrated in recent years, they are now telling us to trust the vote? Sorry, smell test failed.
Even if no persuasive evidence of ballot tampering was found, what do you say about the Hunter Biden laptop suppression and the social media censorship? Those issues have been proven beyond reasonable doubt, even if no laws were technically broken.
A stupid Trump claim. So, how many people would change their vote because the President’s son had a side gig?
…and when you say “yes, Hunter!” then how did Trump’s kids get billions and that’s legit? Literally Hunter sucked as a criminal if his whole family got $17 million and indicted , and Trump Kids get $2,000+ million and walk free?
No matter what, it comes down to the vote of the common person, not social media or Hunter’s dick pic.
“a side gig”… way to downplay millions of dollars of corruption and payments by a despotic government that facilitates debt-derived money-laundering.
If this was a Trump kid doing what Hunter did, you would never shut up about it.
“So, how many people would change their vote because the President’s son had a side gig?”
,some 14% asked said they would not have voted for Biden had they known the truth about the Hunter laptop. It wasn’t just about Hunter’s side gig. It implicated Biden, as well.
It’s not Hunter, it’s Joe, to whom Hunter is selling access
Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi! But her emails!
Social media is owned by private companies. You promoting forcing them to allow lackwits and lies on their private property? Besides, Elon bought y’all a safe space for your porn and nazi activities.
The silent majority will decide this election. You know, the people you don’t hear about or read about who are deeply concerned that we are living in a country without borders and where crime threatens their very being. So we go to the polls deciding whether to vote for the unhinged or the unqualified……great choices not!
The imaginary people that follow wherever you go?
You should get that looked at.
Always said:
(R) pick an intelligent, non-MAGA acolyte? Kamala is destroyed – huugely
(D) pick a moderate, non-progressive, non American-hater? MAGA politically dies
But here we are
“the silent majority” now arguably refers to millions of illegal aliens who tend to not speak much English.