I’m grateful the FED is admitting the likelihood of an imminent Recession/rising unemployment. They have a moral obligation to do so. For too long the message has been “everything’s fine”. Many aren’t ready coming crush. God help us.
Jack
1 year ago
Have seen studies over the years that state that 75% of the population are struggling but require 10% more to be fine.
This 10% is regardless of current wage earnings – e.g., persons making $10/hr need $1 more an hour, the persons making $100/hr need $10 more an hour.
These studies only show people have a tendency to live beyond their needs and current earnings.
desertsteve
1 year ago
Mish, aren’t these rent figures a lagging indicator? Rear view mirror, what about new signed leases? If new leases are falling then it will take 3 months to show in the data?
That said, there’s nothing to put in to time-context. LIke, is 58% high or low? Compared to what? When, exactly, did only a few Americans live paycheck to paycheck?
They do ask whether you feel more financially stressed than before Covid. And half said, “Yes”. But it’s hard to imagine a more mushy question. And, one can’t help wondering whether that question is really, “Was your past rosy, warm, and cozy before the dark cloud of the Covid 19 epidemic shattered your world?”
amalagoli
1 year ago
In the meantime, the Fed is convinced that most Americans still make too much money and they are to blame for inflation. Therefore the goal is to make these folks ‘better off’ by making them lose their jobs.
total dishonesty. they don’t care about unemployment or housing……………
Jojo
1 year ago
Sad! And this is just going to get worse as robots/automation/AI systems take more and more jobs from humans, leaving increasing numbers scratching for a living.
If given the opportunity, people will find updated ways to benefit society with their skills. Like the elimination of many past positions, there are always new value-added things to do.
But they have to be free to do it. Socialism, Marxism and Communism do not provide this kind of structure.
That’s the beauty of it. I don’t have to come up with the ideas. That is a Central Planning model.
The market will figure out the next things and services that people need and want.
Did the people lamenting the demise of horse and buggies imagine that there would be millions of workers and mechanics to build and fix and use automobiles? Did they predict that an entire industry of oil exploration and refinery would be created to support it? Did they predict that national parks would be created and visited with the new freedom of the automobile? Did they predict that this would go on to eventually create electric cars and the engineers needed to create them? I could go on an on. The end result is that we are all better off, and the horse and buggy people found other value or work to add. You cannot stop progress because one small subset of people no longer have a specific job to do.
This is how free markets work.
Is your suggestion to stop all automation and remain fixed at the current state of technology and progress?
People adapt, and our generations are no different. They will be fine.
No, I fully expect accelerating automation to dispose of perhaps 50% of available human jobs over the next 10-15 years.
My belief is that this time will be completely different from the past. Many people are not going to find alternate work and will become permanently unemployed/unemployable. This will cause huge social problems.
Well, with our education system and new culture of victimization, you are probably rightly worried. But that should not be blamed on the market mechanism or automation. And don’t say that minimum basic income will solve the problem – because it won’t. That will simply put a price floor on all basic things. Everything is relative and dynamic, and everything will always relatively sort itself out.
There are big new frontiers in space, medicine, transportation, energy — none of these things are contracting or going away. And not all of these jobs are going to engineers or smart people. You still have to do hard work on these things and as they grow, more people will be needed.
We first have to change the culture from one of waiting for someone to tell you what to do, to one of entrepreneurship and exploration. You don’t need a college degree to accomplish great things and work hard. But you do need a cultural mindset with these values.
And give my regards to your companion, Dr. Pangloss.
Business Man
1 year ago
Poverty is a mindset. I came from poverty, but was taught the values to escape it.
I note that people in poverty don’t like to hear this phrase. We spend too much time as a country blaming everyone else for our own problems.
I will also note that “poverty” today is a heck of a lot better than poverty 100 years ago. Not enough people give our system credit for increasing everyone’s standard of living, regardless of their relative wealth.
Having said that, I do sympathize with people who are disabled, or face “life” with overwhelming matters out of their control. These folks need help, and it’s a good society that gives it. However, how many others think things are out of their control that really aren’t?
Not getting the latest iPhone is equivalent to being an indentured servant in the 1800s. Not that anyone who isn’t getting their new iPhone would know what an indentured servant is.
I’m as American and capitalist as just about anyone.
But I notice an overreliance on consumption and materialism. Things that distract from deeper fulfilment. Because I believe in freedom, I would never mandate or tell others what they can or shouldn’t have, but I will note that many things are just junk trinkets occupying time and space.
Life is better when it is simpler. Enjoying the moment, instead of burying oneself into objects and technology. It’s hazardous, and I get swept up in it, too.
The American dream is not about procurement. It is about being free from the bondages of financial circumstances. Once people realize that the point of wealth is to set you free, not buy more stuff, we will be a happier society.
Deeper fulfillment can’t easily be monetized, so we’re taught to replace it with Amazon fulfillment centers, pretty much from birth. Some variation on this has been going on for 4 generations now, and it’s ingrained in our culture and religion.
It’s a shame. I love the freedom that a capitalist system can provide, but overconsumption is a weakness.
This is one of the reasons why I believe we could all get behind a consumption tax in conjunction with a repeal of the income tax. Make the basics very low tax or tax free or do a rebate up to a basic standard of living and make everything else taxed. We’d have a lot more happy people who would be happy to contribute more to society.
Doug78
1 year ago
For many people expenses expand to fill available revenue. The grasshoppers outnumber the ants.
No amount of money can buy happiness, but enough money can rent it. – Lisa_Hooker
Dr Funkenstein
1 year ago
Seems to me I have heard similar numbers for the last 20 or 30 years
Jackula
1 year ago
Everybody I know that over leveraged themselves here in LA to buy real estate is now “rich”. This didn’t work for my friends that lived in the midwest, home foreclosures and divorces instead. Thanks to the FED the gamblers were rewarded and now everybody wants to play this game. I suspect this is about to end badly for the latecomers.
Billy
1 year ago
It makes me wonder if the ones in control want a recession to create more people who are dependent on the government handouts.
Slaves were an investment that was involved in building all civilizations up to the middle of the 19th century.
This Includes the Native Americans who are really Russians (or Africans like all of us if you prefer).
blacklisted
1 year ago
If 70% of Americans are financially stressed, then 99.9% are going to have a panic attack when WWIII officially starts by the end of the year, which will lead to reinstating the draft. China is a dumping treasuries in preparation for war, as you don’t fund your enemy (unless you are Biden). The Neocons are running the Biden administration and they intentionally violated the Minsk Agreement and the One China Policy, which they knew would necessitate war.
They also believe that Americans will follow the historical norm of not wanting to change horses during a war, even if our horse is a worn out version of Mr. Ed. They can keep delusional Joe in the basement and steal another election. Who’s going to stop them – all of the establishment Republicans that are also in the pockets of the Neocons?
We all lose if Biden or Trump is elected in 2024. Now more than ever this country needs capable leaders but we keep turning to those that are too old, too corrupt and too incompetent.
By default, a “capable leader” cannot be a career politician, as they have no practical skills and are corrupted by the system. I would’ve preferred the polished leader, but Trump was, and is, the only anti-establishment candidate. No capable & uncaptured leader would ever run, based on what was done to Trump. DeSantis will suffer the same fate as Trump, no matter how capable and polite. He will be eaten alive by the Swamp. The ONLY chance we have as a country is to clean house, and Trump is the only one with an axe to grind and the tenacity to even have a chance.
Politician is a complicated job, and noobs get rolled like trump did. It’s a skill, possibly one you’re born with. It’s not just ‘fancy man talky fancy talk bla bla…”
Much of the recent drop in the inflation rate can be attributed to the drop in crude oil and gasoline and diesel prices. There is reason to suggest that the low of $66/barrel in late March was an absolute low and the reversal is a major trend change. The increases in oil price are being matched with decreases in the value of the dollar, so this is primarily a US-based phenomenon. It is becoming more and more common to recognize that the USA can experience a recession AND inflation at the same time. Oil broke out of its channel to the upside this week. If it continues to climb, then the US inflation will turn around and start to increase again as well. Gold is also hitting new all-time highs. Since I bet my life that this would play out this way, I am finding this all to be kind of funny, although I appreciate that the pain is only beginning in the USA……
Seems the stock market has only been focused on inflation.
Mjs357
1 year ago
Inflation is abating, we can see the Fed lowering interest rates in July. A new bull market is near. We’ve priced in all the bad news…Inflation data’s outsize impact on stocks is fading after becoming a marquee event for markets in 2022. The White House said the U.S. economy is the strongest it has ever been. The White House said the U.S. economy is the strongest it has ever been. But the economy might be fine with higher inflation. Decades-low unemployment rate will keep us from recession. The banking crisis will last for years; the banking crisis is over; the banking crisis is almost over (JDimon). It’s all fugazy.
People are charging their groceries and gas to their credit cards now at 15% interest.
I figure the 55% living paycheck to paycheck are buying gold Eagles. The current (as I type) spot price for gold listed on JM Bullion is $2056 per oz. After it is turned into a beautiful GOLD EAGLE OZ, it sells for $2352 (free shipping). Note the EAGLE resembles the US dollar– it contains 22-karat gold with 91.67% gold alloyed with silver and copper.
For comparison, the Maple Leaf OZ fetches $2177 for 1 Troy oz of .9999 pure gold. An even better deal is the Aussie ‘roo. The Oz OZ goes for $2,142 with 1 Troy oz of .9999 pure gold. Get it now while the Queen is still on the other side.
So, there you have it; $200 ‘wasted’ with every coin purchased (not including the purity issue). No wonder the 55% are living paycheck to paycheck.
Want to argue that the EAGLE has collector value? Good luck with that. Buying gold now is not for collection; it’s for survival, just in case SHTF.
It requires self-discipline to achieve a healthy weight over time. It also requires discipline to save for retirement and for most improvements in life. Americans don’t have much, preferring to be zombies whining for more food or whatever.
Lol over 30% of those making > 100K are living pay check to pay check. Survey reports like this are pretty much garbage without history. What was the figure 5, 10, 25 years ago? 50? I doubt the overall figures have changed much at all.
A little over 20 years ago, when I was a financial planner, most families were living paycheck to paycheck. There were even names for those who bought homes in Plano, TX for the zip code advantage. We called them Plano Rich. They’d have a house, barely any furniture, and just a bite or two in the fridge. One sick day from losing it all. There are also those idiots who spend all their money on cars that will only cost them more just so they would look rich. We called those Thousandaires. They’d laugh at me in my little Toyota Tercel that I had only paid 2k for used. Not that I didn’t spend any, I did spend over 25k on my motorcycle; but it was cash. And it wasn’t a strain. People don’t want to understand consequence. But consequence doesn’t care what you want. I do notice that when people’s credit cards are declined, they are usually purchasing absolute junk. Especially in a grocery store. I think it’s telling that the last food price article by Mish had all foods other than fruits and vegetables going up. They were down.
I remember one person I had to turn down as a client. A doctor. Made 250k a year. House was only 400k, which seems frugal, but he was going into debt by over 60k a year and would do nothing to alleviate his position. They weren’t willing to do anything to make themselves better, but they sure were ticked when I told them I couldn’t help them. And I was far more polite and considerate than I am now. Go figure.
Years ago, I used to race a sailboat with a well-known neurosurgeon in Australia. His patients were ‘primarily’ motorcycles riders. I still remember him saying, ‘I make vegetables’. “…People don’t want to understand consequence. But consequence doesn’t care what you want…”
Ha. I have to have a laugh. What are the consequences of being deadbeat? Somebody else pays for it. And the mechanism of transfer from prudent to deadbeat is called central banking and government.
By now, everybody knows that the prudent are the suckers, even the prudent got the message.
Don’t forget cable TV and not just age of car but make and model too. Can’t begin to count how many people in my area claim economic hardship and are driving a bmw or lexus on lease.
When I moved into a new home over a decade ago I had cable scheduled for installation. In the meantime I hooked up a makeshift antenna knowing I could probably get a few channels. I really got into making this antenna with how to videos. I was excited to hook it up, do a scan and see if the old school way still worked.
I ended up getting more than a few channels. Around a few dozen. From there I bought a real antenna. The few dozen went to over 100. Couple that with internet Pluto and Samsung free channels and it’s close to 300 channels. I cancelled the cable install. The sad part is the people that should be doing this instead of me are a big part of the paycheck to paycheck folks. On the flip side, I would not have practically stole my home in 2009 without these people so…..
Precisely, some of those are house millionaires thank to the shenanigans of the central banking cabal. Why being frugal when you were made rich without lifting a finger or tickling a brain cell?
dbannist
1 year ago
I’m always skeptical of these sorts of data sets.For instance, there is a data set that states that 50% of Americans could not pay a 500.00 emergency expense because they do not have 500 in their savings accounts.
This is an example of how something that is true, is also misleading. I’ve looked at that particular data set and they do indeed use actual savings accounts as their source of information.
However, using myself as an example: 1. I have 53k in liquid cash that is currently NOT in a savings account. 2. I have a net worth of around 500k that includes over 120k in various stock investments, any one of which could easily be sold to quickly cover a 500.00 expense, even if I did not have the 53k in liquid cash.
Yet, because I have no savings account, I would be counted as being unable to cover a 500.00 expense, something that is definitely NOT true.I feel financially stressed right now and would check the financially stressed box if asked. How am I financially stressed? Because I am not saving 4k a month this year like I was last year. I’m only saving 3k a month now because of inflation and everything being more expensive but my income has not gone up at all.
I’d argue that most people would not consider me to be financially stressed at all, but I do feel a sense of stress that I’ve slowed down my financial goals and can’t seem to make up for past progress.
These are based on survey questions. They don’t actually check to see if anyone is telling the truth. And I don’t think the $500 has to actually be in a savings account. it just has to be saved.
I did actually look at how the data was collected on one of these surveys, and they actually did look at actual savings accounts. That doesn’t mean, of course, that all of these surveys collected data the same way.
It makes me doubt the veracity of many of these sorts of things.
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Deeper fulfillment can’t easily be monetized, so we’re taught to replace it with Amazon fulfillment centers, pretty much from birth. Some variation on this has been going on for 4 generations now, and it’s ingrained in our culture and religion.
Grasshoppers have been getting pretty beaten up the last couple decades. The ants might have a point.
Seems the stock market has only been focused on inflation.
… and the lenders feast on the puss like honey!
This is an example of how something that is true, is also misleading. I’ve looked at that particular data set and they do indeed use actual savings accounts as their source of information.
However, using myself as an example:
1. I have 53k in liquid cash that is currently NOT in a savings account.
2. I have a net worth of around 500k that includes over 120k in various stock investments, any one of which could easily be sold to quickly cover a 500.00 expense, even if I did not have the 53k in liquid cash.
Yet, because I have no savings account, I would be counted as being unable to cover a 500.00 expense, something that is definitely NOT true.I feel financially stressed right now and would check the financially stressed box if asked. How am I financially stressed? Because I am not saving 4k a month this year like I was last year. I’m only saving 3k a month now because of inflation and everything being more expensive but my income has not gone up at all.
I’d argue that most people would not consider me to be financially stressed at all, but I do feel a sense of stress that I’ve slowed down my financial goals and can’t seem to make up for past progress.
It makes me doubt the veracity of many of these sorts of things.