Harley-Davidson Demands Reciprocal Tariffs if Europe Targets its Bikes

I am geared up for reciprocal, counter-reciprocal, and counter-counter-reciprocal tariffs with no one yet defining reciprocal.

In the name of reciprocity, the Wall Street Journal reports Harley-Davidson Wants Payback if Europe Targets its Bikes

A Harley-Davidson (HOG) isn’t cheap no matter where you buy it.

But if the European Union imposes a 50% retaliatory tariff on the company’s motorcycles in April, prices could reach astounding heights in Harley’s second-largest market by sales.

Consider the Road Glide, a touring model that starts at $28,000 in the U.S. In Denmark, the price tag is already around $77,000 once the country’s 25% value-added tax and 150% luxury tax are added.

The proposed new EU tariff, which officials said would be in response to levies imposed by the Trump administration, would take the Road Glide price to $124,000, the company said.

Harley said its products are afflicted by unfair trade policies in other markets, too. The company wants its overseas rivals to face reciprocal duties when they export bikes into the U.S.

Competitor brands should not be allowed to take advantage of low-cost manufacturing and preferential import duty when accessing the U.S. market,” Jonathan Root, the company’s chief financial officer, told a congressional trade panel Tuesday.

Though the company says it is profitable in Europe, its business in the region has been shrinking. Some riders and dealers complain that the bikes have become too pricey and the variety too meager. Harley doesn’t compete in some categories popular in Europe and has failed to gain traction in others.

Another fateful step came a few years ago when Harley discontinued its least expensive motorcycle, the Sportster. It accounted for a third of sales volume in the European region, but the company called it a money loser whose decades-old engine didn’t meet modern air-quality standards.

The Sportster’s replacement, the Nightster, has a cleaner and quieter engine but hasn’t matched its predecessor’s appeal.

“They were significantly overengineered and too expensive, so we lost the entry level,” said Christian Arnezeder, a former leader of Harley’s central European operations.

Canada imposed a 25% retaliatory tariff in early March, while countries such as China, India and Thailand place even higher duties on the motorcycles, he said.

Meanwhile, Root said, bikes brought into the U.S. receive a 2.4% tariff at most. That imbalance is unfair to Harley, he said.

High-Cost Manufacturing

Everyone should have high-cost manufacturing. Combined with a crashing dollar and higher inflation, we can reach global Nirvana.

Meanwhile, please note the need for a reciprocal response to reciprocal tariffs. Canada imposed a 25% retaliatory tariff in early March, that Trump now needs to react to.

Before this madness started, we had USMCA and reciprocal tariffs, at least with Canada and Mexico.

Now to even things out from things that were already even, we may need counter-counter-reciprocal tariffs.

Making Sense of Counter-Counter-Reciprocal Tariffs

Everything will make complete sense on April 2, Tax Hike Liberation Day when Trump reveals his new and improved reciprocal tariff policy as currently modified.

I discussed Trump’s newly revised “Big and Simple” tariff plan earlier today in Trump’s Tariff Liberation Day Ceremonies Start Two Days Early With Confusing Statements

Across-the-board tariffs of up to 20% are back on the table ahead of April 2 “Liberation Day”.

Big and Simple vs 200 Clean Numbers

It seems to me that simple and 200 clean numbers, one for each country the US trades with, plus Trump’s commitment to be generous to certain countries appears to be contradictory.

However, as I have explained previously, contradictions and Trump are impossible. Thus big, simple, specific, hundreds, and changing rates on the fly, are not at all contradictory.

Please click on the above links for more discussion of the latest Big and Simple ideas.

What Does Reciprocal Mean?

One might think that reciprocal means we do to them what they do to us, since that is How Trump defines it.

But that is not at all what Trump means even though that’s what he now says.

USMCA was actually reciprocal in all but a few minor ways and Trump negotiated those ways.

In fact, Trump bragged about what a great deal he made.

I kid you not, according to Trump, Cheese Was a “Key Achievement” of Trump’s USMCA Trade Agreement

Please read the above post if you think the US is getting a rotten deal from Canada.

Subscribe to MishTalk Email Alerts.

Subscribers get an email alert of each post as they happen. Read the ones you like and you can unsubscribe at any time.

This post originated on MishTalk.Com

Thanks for Tuning In!

Mish

Comments to this post are now closed.

46 Comments
Newest
Oldest Most Voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
bmcc
bmcc
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

have a good photography trip. we are in a lunatic empire of nihilist liars. all empires crumble. trump reminds me of nero. or like current NK kim jong DON. it’s insanity. nothing on april 2 will be meaningfull as the world doesn’t believe a word coming out of DC anymore. i think it’s a good thing actually. idiocracy is a good way for an empire to crumble.

realityczech
realityczech
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

That’s quite the hike to get there, IIRC. Enjoy the trip and hopefully the weather turns in your favor. Here’s to golden hour lighting. Bryce was phenomenal at sunrise.

Fast Eddy
Fast Eddy
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Advanced Economies Are Being Pushed Toward Financial Collapse

Each economy can be encouraged to grow in two different ways: (1) Through more debt, indirectly adding to more “demand” for finished goods, or (2) Through added supply of inexpensive energy products. Adding debt to pull the economy forward seems to work well if there is not a problem with hitting resource extraction limits. Once an economy starts hitting resource extraction limits, however, the added debt partly adds inflation, rather than finished goods and services, to the output mix. Thus, the debt approach no longer works well.

The world as a whole is now hitting resource extraction limits. Not only do individual citizens become unhappy with the higher inflation level, but investors demand higher interest rates for lending. This higher interest cost becomes a huge problem for the Advanced Economies that already have very high debt levels.

https://ourfiniteworld.com/2025/03/31/advanced-economies-are-being-pushed-toward-financial-collapse/

Last edited 1 year ago by Fast Eddy
Wild Midwest
Wild Midwest
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

I look forward to future MishMoments. Your lens is unworldly.

Augustine
Augustine
1 year ago

Reciprocal tariffs mean that we do to our own what they do to their own. Because paying more taxes is winning, silly!

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago

If Harley Davidson wants to sell motorcycles in Europe or Canada, then they should make them there. That’s only fair, right?

Fast Eddy
Fast Eddy
1 year ago
Matt
Matt
1 year ago

It sounds like Harley is treated pretty unfairly in Europe already.

Avery2
Avery2
1 year ago

Who cares.

The last Boomer hearse should be a Harley.

bmcc
bmcc
1 year ago

i was in russia in 90s watching their crumbling empire unfold. had oligarch clients and russian investment banker pals………..all empires crumble. it’s not really that unique and happens quite often in world history………….but trust that the young folks will be fine as they have nothing much to lose. the old geezers north of 35 sort of lost it, over there. i suspect the same will happen here.

Jon
Jon
1 year ago

Well, if there’s anything we Americans voted for, it’s increasing the price of just about everything. I am so done with cheap, high-quality imports. Biden just couldn’t get the job done. Inflation collapsed to just 2.5% in the last year of his Presidency. What a moron! He was just too damn riddled with Alzheimer’s to come up with massive tariffs on everything. Higher prices and putting the beat down on the Mexicans and gays. Yeah, Trump!

Matt
Matt
1 year ago
Reply to  Jon

It was the border. And the Afghanistan withdrawal. And the bribery. And pardoning his son. And egg prices way up due to poor execution of bird flu remediation. And the suppression of reports that climate change is BS. There’s more, but that’s probably enough.

Bridge
Bridge
1 year ago
Reply to  Jon

Sure, Jon. Nothing like a sharp eyed sociopath like Trump to fire up your hateful cylinders. I would take a Dem in a coma over a fascist, any day. They would do less harm to our country than your hero. I’m sure we will all be hurt by him. I’m guessing, you think he cares about you and you’ll be fine. So many silly special trump supporters. Good luck, America!

Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago

Harleys are as rare on European streets as Trump bumper stickers. Harley”s sales started tanking in 2023 and their European sales were worse so tariffs will hurt but Harley’s problems are more than just tariffs. Too bad they got rid of the Sportster. It was iconic.

Bill Meyer
Bill Meyer
1 year ago

Wonder when the elliptical tariffs hit in order for true liberation? /sarc Seriously, the suddenness and size of these gives me pause. It irritates greatly that MuskMobiles™ constructed initially through huge tax credit cliiiiiiiiiimate grifts win the “Made in America” beauty contest. Sure, you like the DOGE work, but given he’s tied to the administration’s hip it gives off the appearance of impropriety.

peelo
peelo
1 year ago

Maybe Trump’s Congress ought to hold onto any spare change to bail out farmers with taxpayer funds first. That happened last time, right? Funny, I had thought this was a business outfit, and not a public bailout one. (Also supposedly not a fiscal deficits or trade deficits one, right?) Oh well. These little glitches happen — I wonder how many will happen this time? I think the screaming will grow loud.

JayW
JayW
1 year ago

PapaDave, in two days, we get those long-awaited, on / off auto tariffs.

Add these to the steel & aluminum tariffs that started earlier this month.

Trump finally did what he said he was going to do, all well within 100 days.

Let the grand experiment begin.

JayW
JayW
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

If we don’t, I seriously doubt it’s because Trump folds his bluff.

The good news is that we’re about to find out.

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  JayW

Hi Jay. I am looking forward to Trump’s
Tariff announcements.

I expect the North American auto industry to shut down wiithin 2 weeks of the implementation date for auto tariffs.

US manufacturing in general will become less competitive because of higher costs. Expect job losses.

What a show!

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
1 year ago

I have been saying/writing this for years! Urgency derives from a truth that many in Washington won’t say out loud: The United States’ defense industrial base is weaker and more strained than it has been in decades. We have nearly depleted our industrial capacity to actually produce the weapons and munitions we desperately need to confront the threats of our time. https://www.theamericanconservative.com/europe-needs-trumps-new-realism/

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
1 year ago

Utah has way fewer restaurants, adjusted for size, than the US as a whole
Mormons dont drink alcohol? https://x.com/econcallum/status/1904963379703529578

Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Barbaric!

rjd1955
rjd1955
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Going to Antelope Canyon? Have you done ‘The Wave’? I hear that it is difficult to obtain a pass to The Wave as they restrict the amount of daily tourists.

Michael Engel
Michael Engel
1 year ago

Bibi two top aids were arrested for getting bribes from Qatar. It might spill over. If
an Israeli court convict Bibi Iran might attack.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago

Looking forward to LIBATION day, that’s the proper way to celebrate these new consumer direct taxation methods.

rjd1955
rjd1955
1 year ago

Harley-Davidson is in big financial trouble with or without tariffs. They’ve been struggling for quite some time. Their newer bikes have not been selling. Their biggest market of older guys is too old with arthritis to handle their heavy motorcycles. Younger demographics are heading to other brands such as Indian, BMW, Triumph, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki, etc…

Jon
Jon
1 year ago
Reply to  rjd1955

Harley decided awhile ago that they are just going to be the Cadillac of motorcycles. Younger guys don’t buy Cadillacs. They’re for older guys too. Cadillacs are cars you age into when you’ve gone the sports car route and are tired of it, have a little money and want style and comfort. They’re leaving the low-end to the Japanese and Indians.

Having said that, the Nightster with the 975 ci water-cooled RevMax engine is a fantastic bike starting at $10k. If it was up to me, I’d put the 1200 RevMax on all the softails. Restart to cool FXR line with the M8 and leave the heavy-weights where they are. Funny though, no one from Harley has called to ask my opinion.

Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago

You keep bringing up USMCA. That was more than 7 years ago. Things change. The idea we should beholden to it is ridiculous. No matter who negotiated it.

Luke Winstrom
Luke Winstrom
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

How do you expect a nation that lies about “mankind’s greatest achievement” to honor anything?

Sentient
Sentient
1 year ago
Reply to  Luke Winstrom

Hey! We were the first country to pretend to put a man on the moon – and don’t you ever forget it, buddy!

KGB
KGB
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Honor treaties like the Budapest Memorandum? How about NATO Article V?

peelo
peelo
1 year ago
Reply to  KGB

So what then? Disregard treaties at will? You don’t see a problem?

Bridge
Bridge
1 year ago
Reply to  peelo

He’s a Russian troll

JayW
JayW
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

It would seem as though Trump didn’t want to wait a year, no?

peelo
peelo
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

… and that loss of honor has our name all over it. “We” are, after all, the electorate who inflicted Trump on the world. I sure hope his riverboat gamble works though, because if not, we have no friends or credibility. Every 4 years there could be another reversal like this one, and the world knows it so well, now. It is Congress’s fault for not doing its job, and deferring to both parties’ presidents, in writing and by not legislating — which is ITS JOB. But that is our collective fault, for listening to demagoguery of both parties, and voting accordingly.

Last edited 1 year ago by peelo
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

The Constitution says the Senate must confirm a new treaty but says nothing about the the Senate having to confirm ending a treaty. It is not even implied. Presidents have unilaterally abrogated treaties about 40 times beginning with the treaty with France when France became hostile in 1798. I don’t see the problem with ending the USMCA. It is folly to continue a treaty that no longer serves its intended purpose.

klaus
klaus
1 year ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Biden wasn’t a Jack Ass?

Tony Frank
Tony Frank
1 year ago

Let the games begin.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago
Reply to  Tony Frank

Some people think the USA deserves better than games being played with it.

Limey
Limey
1 year ago

Reap what you sow. Collectively you voted for this cluster……..

Decorate Your Walls with Mish Fine Art Images

Click each image to view details or purchase in the store.

Stay Informed

Subscribe to MishTalk

You will receive all messages from this feed and they will be delivered by email.