Recession Watch: Small Bounce in the GDPNow Forecast, But Watch the Correct Number

GDPNow data from the Atlanta Fed, chart by Mish.

The July 7 update to the Atlanta Fed GDPNow Forecast bounce slightly higher to -1.9 percent. 

The GDPNow model estimate for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the second quarter of 2022 is -1.9 percent on July 7, up from -2.1 percent on July 1. After this week’s releases from the Institute for Supply Management, the US Census Bureau, and the US Bureau of Economic Analysis, the nowcasts of second-quarter real personal consumption expenditures growth and real gross private domestic investment growth increased from 0.8 percent and -15.1 percent, respectively, to 1.3 percent and -14.9 percent, respectively, while the nowcast of the contribution of the change in real net exports to second-quarter GDP growth decreased from 0.38 percentage points to 0.21 percentage points.

Real Final Sales

Most eyes are on the headline number, but that’s not what one should be watching. The important number is Real Final Sales (RFS). It’s the true bottom line number for the economy. 

I am confident a recession is underway, but I am not confident as to the start month.

If RFS comes in negative for the quarter, the recession may have started in the first quarter.

If not, then I will guess May given relatively strong but revised lower retail sales in April. 

Looking Ahead to June

That subtitle looks strange given that it’s now July 7, but the economic reports for June are still coming in. 

Key reports on retail sales, ISM, new home sales, existing home sales, CPI, PCE, income, and a jobs report are all yet to be seen.

Data-wise, there’s still a month coming. 

What About Jobs?

We have a jobs report tomorrow, but unless it’s very soft, I doubt it matters much.

Every day I see Tweets from people saying we are creating too many jobs for there to be a recession. 

However, most of the rest of the data, the bond market , and commodity prices are all screaming recession. 

Rate Hikes

Pick a date, or one of mine, or none at all, but this economy is sinking fast. And the Fed has penciled in another rate hike. 

CME Fedwatch has the odds of another three-quarter point hike at 93.9%, up from 82.6% a week ago.

I concur with the assessment. The stock market shrugging this hike off does little but incentivize the Fed to go with these hikes.

The next decision is on July 29, about three weeks from now. Even if we are borderline recession now, another 75 basis point hike ought to do the trick. 

Given the lagging nature of hikes, lagging nature of jobs, and a tight labor market, the Fed is likely to overshoot. A 75 basis point hike to 2.25-2.50% could do it. 

I am sure the Fed will be far over the line if the Fed gets to its target of 3.25% by December. 

Inflation Expectations Nonsense 

The Fed is worried about inflation expectations, a nonsensical idea. That worry is also likely to cause the Fed to tighten too much.

For discussion, please see Still More Inflation Expectations Nonsense in the Latest Fed Minutes

Expect a Long But Shallow Recession With Minimal Job Losses

From a jobs standpoint I expect a Long But Shallow Recession With Minimal Job Losses

From a stock market perspective, I expect things will be brutal.

For discussion, please see Artificial Wealth vs GDP: Why Earnings and the Stock Market Will Get Crushed

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klausmkl
klausmkl
3 years ago
Anyone in this game knows this, hopefully. I am positioned.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
The economic engine is being run in reverse. Lending by the banks is inflationary (increases the volume and turnover of new money). Whereas lending by the nonbanks is noninflationary (results in the turnover of existing money). Why do you think velocity disappeared?
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
The economic engine is being run in reverse. Link:
“It´s a kind of magic” – by Marcus Nunes – Money Fetish (substack.com)

The “Gurley-Shaw thesis was
based on the implications of the rapid growth of financial intermediaries in
the post-War II period. Gurley and Shaw were particularly inspired by the work
of Raymond Goldsmith which showed that while all financial intermediaries grew
rapidly during the first half of the 20th century, the claims of non-bank
intermediaries increased much more than the demand deposit claims of the
commercial banks, thus causing the commercial banks to diminish in importance
among all intermediaries.”

The U.S. Golden Age in
Capitalism was 2/3 financed by velocity. Today we have the opposite dynamic.
And when the FED tightens, it creates disintermediation of the nonbanks.

The DIDMCA of March 31st 1980 turned 38,000 nonbanks (CUs, MSBs, and S&Ls) into banks. That” caused the “the failure of 1,043 out of the 3,234 savings and loan associations (S&Ls) in the United States from 1986 to 1995.
Bernanke’s Romulan Cloaking device, the payment of interest on reserve balances, induced nonbank disintermediation, where the nonbanks shrank by 6.2 trillion dollars, while the banks were unaffected, increasing by 3.6 trillion dollars in the same period.
oee
oee
3 years ago
There is no recession. The econ created +381000 in June. The last receasssions started when the jobs went negative. The Biden/Harris admin has created more jobs in ONE MONTH than TRUMP DID IN 48 MONTHS. In fact, 9 million new jobs in 18 months vs. 3 MIILLON LOST IN 48 MONTHS.
radar
radar
3 years ago
Reply to  oee
Or maybe the folks Trump made rich and was able to retire have now become poor under Biden and has had to return to work…
threeblindmice
threeblindmice
3 years ago
Reply to  oee
Yawn. Silly comments that ignore Covid lockdowns and subsequent recovery will be deemed motivated by partisanship, not insight, aren’t worthy of consideration.
oee
oee
3 years ago
Reply to  threeblindmice
Nothning was pre-ordained. The economy would not have been damaged had Trump not F***ck the response to Covid. Other countries have lower death rates from covid- The UK; Canada, Japan, Australia, New Zeland, Germany, Italy, France. All of them did a better job than this one.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  oee
Toot toot! Kook alert!
RonJ
RonJ
3 years ago
Reply to  oee
It was the U.S. public health agencies that obstructed early treatment, followed by substandard PREP Act hospital treatment protocol, starting with Remdesivir, a dangerous drug that failed on safety during Ebola testing. Even the WHO recommended against Remdesivir. Patients were also given an anemic dose of Dexamthazone for lung inflammation, which was another poor choice for treatment of Covid in hospital.
That is why so many people in the U.S. died “of Covid.” Substandard care designed by the public health agencies. People should be asking why that is?
RonJ
RonJ
3 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
In other Covid news, i contracted what KTLA “News” is promoting as the ULTRA-contagious ba5, describing it as like a cold, which i can confirm it was. Under the weather for 3 days, followed by a few days of roller coaster recovery.
KTLA is saying it has “immune escape,” that even if one had Covid a few months ago, one can contract ba5.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
Toot toot! Kook alert!
RonJ
RonJ
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Thanks for announcing yourself.
honestcreditguy
honestcreditguy
3 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
no because we are a fat obese nation….that is the reason….75% of all deaths tied to obesity
RonJ
RonJ
3 years ago
Zelenko treated high risk patients early on with good success. Most of the deaths tied to obesity are also tied to obstruction of early treatment, followed by substandard Prep Act hospital treatment.
JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
In my rural county, an old guy fell off his roof and broke his neck. His corpse tested positive for the virus, using the b.s. PCR test, so it was scored as a covid death.
honestcreditguy
honestcreditguy
3 years ago
Reply to  oee
hilarious…..
Leprechaun
Leprechaun
3 years ago
Reply to  oee
Are you an eight-year old???? I ask because no rational adult would make such a silly, ludicrous statement.
If you were half as smart as you think you are, you would have compared jobs pre-COVID to jobs post-COVID …. in 4th Quarter 2019, there were 158.6m jobs; in 2nd Quarter 2022, there were 152.1m jobs, a decline of 6.5m jobs under Biden.
Are you able to follow this, or is it over your head???
oee
oee
3 years ago
Reply to  Leprechaun
Look at the death figures they are readely available. Biden took over in Jan 2021; Trump was the President who bragged on 2% econ growh so he should take credit for DEATHS under him and the econ depression under him.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  oee
I see. Biden took over after most of the deaths had run their course, then used the tools to prevent deaths developed under Trump. Gotta love Democrat (capital “D”) highly selective acknowledgement of facts.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
The hallmark of the R is to maintain ignorance, make up what sounds good to them, and believe it fervently. True faith based politics, driven by alternative facts.
kookery abounds across the political spectrum.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
“kookery abounds across the political spectrum.”
Gotta agree 110%. 😉
JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Have you checked the mirror?
honestcreditguy
honestcreditguy
3 years ago
Reply to  oee
Biden surpassed Trump in deaths, didn’t matter who was potus when you have a bunch of obese easy to flock sheep in the US. The damn thing was built to thin out the obese herd…..if you were fit and healthy, your chances of shark attack in a bay are worse
worleyeoe
worleyeoe
3 years ago
Reply to  oee
OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
$11T in crazy thin air money created by the Fed and the portion borrowed by Congress (okay a small was signed into law by Trump) is what created 9M jobs. FJB hasn’t done anything since coming into office that’s created jobs!
worleyeoe
worleyeoe
3 years ago
372K new jobs in June, blowing past the estimates and showing only a small decline from May at 390K.
Go JPowell, you moron. Keep up the good work and slow poking QT.
Let’s start raising the FFR by full 100 basis points and see what happens.
JeffD
JeffD
3 years ago
Mish, the Fed will need at least two large hikes to be in the right place. When the prime rate passes the core CPI inflation rate, the Fed can think about cooling its heels. Until then, they are way behind.
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Breaking News…. free money on the way! Yeehaw partner, good times are here again.
I guess no one will want to work anymore, mo money, mo inflation, mo stock rallies!
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
MMT – More Money Today!!! Oops, modern monetary theory.
JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Wow, I really had no idea that this was still happening. No wonder labor participation hasn’t recovered.
8dots
8dots
3 years ago
NDX already retraced more than 50% of covid low, slightly under 60%.
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Reply to  8dots
my beloved apple is climbing back from the abyss 😉
8dots
8dots
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
NDX bounced off 2018 Lazer : Jan 2018 high to Sept 2018 high // parallel from Feb 2018 low, linear. Hopefully June 2022 low was good enough.
Good luck.
8dots
8dots
3 years ago
If the Dow drop to 28,000 to close Nov 6/9 2020 gap, JP should NOT hike by 0.75. The 0.75 hike might send the Dow to Oct 30/Nov 2 2020 open gap, to the 25,500 area, retracing about 62% of covid low.
If the Dow retrace 62% on phase I, on phase II the Dow might drop < 10,000, to 0.886 of 2009 low, testing an old bold uptrend channel :
1974 low to 1982 low // parallel from 1976 highs, log. Ignore !!
worleyeoe
worleyeoe
3 years ago
“the Fed is likely to overshoot. A 75 basis point hike to 2.25-2.50% could do it. I am sure the Fed will be far over the line if the Fed gets to its target of 3.25% by December.”
Please qualify overshoot. Long & shallow. Got it. Furthermore, you said the other day a low 1% uptick in unemployment is probably the ceiling.
Inflation in 1979 was 9% or about where we’re at today. The FFR at the time Volcker took the helm was 10.49%, and he raised it over 7% in 9 short months. And you think the Fed, facing similar inflation numbers and starting from basically 0%, is going to tame inflation by overshooting with a 3% rise? How does the Fed overshoot by only increasing unemployment by, say,1.2%?
How on God’s green earth does the morass we’re currently in get fixed with a 2.25% to maybe 3% FFR rate hike and a minor uptick in unemployment? I just don’t get that, Mish. Maybe I’m reading your posts wrong.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  worleyeoe
The Fed doesn’t have to do anything. Inflation will come down to 4% by itself by early next year. Which will be mostly in food and energy. Discretionary spending will fall. As will prices for discretionary items.
The question will be whether 4% is acceptable. If it isn’t then they will keep hiking rates.
worleyeoe
worleyeoe
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
“The Fed doesn’t have to do anything.” That’s a very broad statement. Let’s DM JPowell and let him know he’s a go to take his foot off the gas pedal.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  worleyeoe
Simply my opinion. Prices for many things are already coming down. Particularly commodities.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
3 years ago
Reply to  worleyeoe
i concur with you. stagflation will take way more rate hikes to control the inflation in pricing brought on by money and debt creation of the past decade. gonna take many years and probably a few fed chairs, just like the late 60s to early 80s. wishful thinking this thing is over fast and deep, or even long and shallow. it’s gonna be very long and deep. think 1970s, lots of real wealth destroyed. bad. but not 1930s when men road box cars for work.
JeffD
JeffD
3 years ago
Reply to  worleyeoe
Agreed. If you are viewing rates as an arbitrary number rather than through the prism of inflation, you are doing it wrong.
worleyeoe
worleyeoe
3 years ago
Reply to  JeffD
I’m viewing them through the prism of what history last taught us about CPI at 9%. It took some very BIG rate hikes, drops, two recessions and a lot of job losses to tame inflation.
And to further that point we have a very similar situation in Ukraine just like we did in April 1979, when our embassy in Tehran was taken over. The result was multi-year sanctions against Iranian oil exports. Boy, that sounds familiar, doesn’t it?
At least for now, there’s still tons of energy in the labor market including goods & services. The negative growth GDPNow readings are gimmicks in the sense that everyone is trying to latch on to them to call a recession. We are NOT anywhere near yet a classic recession. Not even close.
Let’s see the Fed find themselves in some sort of unpredictable situation that forces them to start selling off MBS and watch 30YFRM move upwards of 7-8% and stay they for 12-18 months before receding. And then we’ll have the necessary ingredients for the housing market to tank 50% and start a deep recession.
Until Biden leaves office, oil prices will remain stubbornly high. The price of oil is the primary driver of inflation. If the labor market is stubborn like it very well could be, unemployment isn’t going to do anything more than trickly upwards.
And, here’s the MOST important reason inflation isn’t going to go down anything close to where the Fed wants it, 3%ish, for a long time, save the big one. There are all sorts of price gains over the last 2 years that are now backed in. Sure. Gas will go down, but there’s a new floor, probably $3.50 a gallon. Sure, chicken at Kroger will go down from $2.99 a pound to say $2.50. Four months ago, it was still $1.99. Home Depot has probably raised prices on EVERY single item in its store. Save lumber, drywall and a handful of other high-volume commodities, everything else will stay the same price. They’re not going to spend the money to lower the price of the 90% of stuff in the store that’s not bought by the truckloads every day.
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Mish,
Why no post about Boris Johnson? Big news in the UK. I’d like to hear from commenters here from the UK on their thoughts on the whole thing. Has Brexit bravado worn off?
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
My take? Mendacious idiot with a bad hairdo got fired for being his true self… didn’t throw a tantrum, about it, so he’s got that goin for him.
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
I wonder if the 9% inflation rate has anything to do with it. Or perhaps BoJo doesn’t know how to solve the problem and is bailing.
Mish
Mish
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
BJ is a weird Bird
Brexit is a Conservative Issue
His Ireland stance is a conservative issue
But what the hell with Covid lockdowns, tax hikes and sounding like Biden on climate and energy?
One of his ministers is groping men. That was the final straw.
I have not figured out what it means for Brexit. Impossible to say actually until they find a replacement.
MIsh
Mish
Mish
3 years ago

Teachers’ union wants
to replace “mother” with” birthing parent.”

The
Teachers’ unions are the most pernicious element in America.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/national-education-association-teachers-union-proposes-resolution-to-change-mother-to-birthing-parent/ar-AAZi5hG

MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish
In Florida, there is a mega shortage of teachers. Of course, the problem is all across America, not just Florida. Part of the problem is the entire politicization of the profession.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45

They don’t get paid enough to put up with self righteous Ignorami that get stirred up by Tucker Carlson every other week. There’s also quite a few of them getting shot. Sure, the odds are low, but that’s gonna linger in the back of their minds. Plus most of them can easily get better paying jobs where they won’t get shot at.Most of the private schools people can afford are outright daycare diploma mills.It is already nearly impossible to find entry level tech people with potential. It will get a lot worse.

MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
I’ve been doing a great deal of analysis, got algos that pull data from many sources, and man is it getting scary what I’m seeing and it has nothing to do with economics.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45

Civilization is slowly tipping over.

Matt3
Matt3
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
I disagree. Teachers work very few hours compared to the private sector. Tons of days off, spring break, summer vacations and every holiday imaginable. Most teachers I’ve me couldn’t compete in the private sector.
jiminy
jiminy
3 years ago
Reply to  Matt3
Its an easy gig, 180 days a year work with retirement and benefits. Few people today get much in the way of retirement. Teachers are over compensated and very obnoxious.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  Matt3
Might have been that way when we were in school, but not anymore. We definitely didn’t have the shootings. In high school, it wasn’t odd to see hunting rifles in pickup truck gun racks in the parking lot… especially after Christmas when kids got them as gifts, and wanted to show them off. Nobody got shot.
Kids are a lot harder to deal with now… to say nothing of the crazy entitled parents. Used to be when a kid screwed up he was terrified of his parents’ reaction… now the parents storm into the high school and raise hell with the teacher, and the administrators pile on.
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish
And that’s not the only bad news, seems teachers need to teach “christian religion” in schools, whatever that means….
radar
radar
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Probably… “Treat other people the way you want to be treated” “Love your neighbor” “Love your enemies” “Turn from evil and do good; seek peace and pursue it”
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45

It means spread the teachings of Shotgun Jesus.

MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Lol. Your wit is always high caliber chambered in a small form factor.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Well thanks… I think.
prumbly
prumbly
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish
“birthing parent f*cker” just doesn’t do it
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  prumbly
“Genetic Substance Donor” would be less political and more accurate. 😉
Yo, GSD!
RonJ
RonJ
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish
Teachers’ union wants
to replace “mother” with” birthing parent.”
Mother is one word, two syllables. More efficient expression than two words with four syllables. Mom, is even more efficient, than mother.
Keep it simple.
Mish
Mish
3 years ago
Straight from the insane asylum
Karine
Jean-Pierre says “we are stronger economically than we have been in
history”

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1545145046386855941?s=20&amp;t=Q8x2AMOvGBxwzXk-tXgFCQ

JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish
White House communications people are always gilding the lily. It’s their job. But some are better than others. The personnel turnover this year, and especially the new press secretary? Even Ron Ziegler of Nixon administration fame was far better.
Mish
Mish
3 years ago
Buffett buying more Occidental just days after his last purchase. He recognizes the buying opportunity.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish
There are so many good choices in the energy space that it is hard to go wrong. They are all trading at bargain levels. One that I have mentioned before is Crescent Point Energy.
They announced results today. Hit their debt target of 1.3 billion early. Increased dividend by 24% after already increasing it in May by 40%.
They are promising to distribute 50% of FCF in addition to the regular dividend starting in Q3.
They are estimated to trade at 1.1x EV/CF in 2023 based on $100 WTI.
effendi
effendi
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Any company involved in Nat gas to Europe will be making a killing even if the sanctions on Russia are lifted. German officials just told the Dutch that the Dutch request to Germany to delay shutting down the remaining 3 nuclear plants will not happen and they are pushing ahead for all 3 to shut before the end of year. The Germans also said Nordstream 2 will never be certified.
So even with a recession coming the bar gas exporters will make a killing on the arbitrage between US and EU gas pricing (plus Russia will be laughing all the way to the bank).
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  effendi
Agree. Which companies are you investing in?

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