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Seemingly Strong Jobs Report Strengthens GDPNow Second-Quarter GDP Forecast

GDPNow data from the Atlanta Fed, chart by Mish.

The July 7 update to the Atlanta Fed GDPNow Forecast bounced slightly higher to -1.9 percent.

The GDPNow model estimate for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the second quarter of 2022 is -1.2 percent on July 8, up from -1.9 percent on July 7. After this morning’s employment situation report by the US Bureau of Labor Statistics and the wholesale trade report from the US Census Bureau, the nowcasts of second-quarter real personal consumption expenditures growth and real gross private domestic investment growth increased from 1.3 percent and -14.9 percent, respectively, to 1.9 percent and -13.7 percent, respectively.

Real Final Sales

Most eyes are on the headline number, but that’s not what one should be watching. The important number is Real Final Sales (RFS). It’s the true bottom line number for the economy.

The RFS bounce from +0.3 percent a week ago to +1.3 percent today is significant but many key reports for the quarter are still coming up.

If RFS comes in negative for the quarter, the recession may have started in the first quarter.

If not, then I will guess May given relatively strong but revised lower retail sales in April. 

Economic Numbers and GDPNow Reactions

Actual economic numbers do not matter to the GDPNow forecast. What does matter is the strength of the data vs what the model expected

This is why the model forecast frequently goes in the opposite direction of the appearance of strength or weakness in the data.

The GDPNow forecast rose today because based on previous data, the model expected lower jobs numbers. 

This likely sets the tone for higher model expectations looking ahead. I expect weakness.

We are all treating these numbers as if they are likely because the final GDPNow model forecast for each quarter has been very good for many quarters.

However, the model could easily be off in either direction by a substantial amount. 

June Jobs Report 

For discussion of the June payroll report please see Jobs Grow by 372,000 but Employment Shrinks by 315,000.

Although jobs have been strong all year, employment has declined since March. 

In expanding economies, discrepancies tend to resolve higher. At turns, discrepancies tend to resolver lower. 

The jobs report in June was not as strong as it looks. See the link for further details.

Looking Ahead to More June Data

That subtitle looks strange given that it’s now July 8, but the economic reports for June are not yet in.

Key reports on retail sales, ISM, new home sales, existing home sales, CPI, PCE, income are coming up. 

Data-wise, there’s still nearly a month yet to be seen. I expect most of that data to be weak. 

The key numbers will be June retail sales and the Fed report on income and outlays. 

Rate Hikes

CME Fedwatch has the odds of another three-quarter point hike at 95.4%, up from 86.2% a week ago.

I concur with the assessment. The stock market shrugging hikes off and the June jobs report incentivize the Fed to go with stronger hikes.

The next FOMC decision is on July 29, about three weeks from now. Even if we are borderline recession now, another 75 basis point hike ought to do the trick.

Given the lagging nature of hikes, lagging nature of jobs, and a tight labor market, the Fed is likely to overshoot. A 75 basis point hike to 2.25-2.50% could do it.

I am sure the Fed will be far over the line if the Fed gets to its target of 3.25% by December.

Inflation Expectations Nonsense

The Fed is worried about inflation expectations, a nonsensical idea. That worry is also likely to cause the Fed to tighten too much.

For discussion, please see Still More Inflation Expectations Nonsense in the Latest Fed Minutes

Expect a Long But Shallow Recession With Minimal Job Losses

From a jobs standpoint I expect a Long But Shallow Recession With Minimal Job Losses.

From a stock market perspective, I expect things will be brutal.

For discussion, please see Artificial Wealth vs GDP: Why Earnings and the Stock Market Will Get Crushed

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Esclaro
Esclaro
4 years ago
We are headed towards a depression not a recession. The DXY at 120 will guarantee a huge number of third word defaults and a complete destruction of US exports. The USD is King Kong and we are all the little people he’s going to annihilate!
honestcreditguy
honestcreditguy
3 years ago
Reply to  Esclaro
actually bad for china good for US..
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
This gives Fed room to keep hiking.
JackWebb
JackWebb
4 years ago
They can say there’s no recession. That won’t keep the yammerers away for long.
Mish
Mish
4 years ago
A Debate Over Excess Savings, How Much Stimulus Still Hasn’t Been Spent?
JackWebb
JackWebb
4 years ago
Reply to  Mish
I learned something new in a different thread. Apparently there are as many as 20 states that are sending out state-level stim checks out of the slush money they got from the feds. No wonder the participation rate has not fully recovered. Oh, and I overlooked that post of yours. Thanks for the link.
8dots
8dots
4 years ago
Employment shrunk by 315K. Real median hourly income shrank since Q2 2020. Divide the shrinking real income by a smaller labor
force ==> real income isn’t as bad.
JackWebb
JackWebb
4 years ago
Reply to  8dots
Because of a prior career that brought me into close contact with the Bureau of Labor Statistics, I’ve always respected the integrity of the BLS without blessing every stat they publish. Seasonal adjustment can be a furball at times, and there are numerous and authentic conceptual challenges, which I think are well-captured by U-4 through U-6, along with participation data.

At this moment, I further believe that the covid response has made it harder than normal to accurately interpret employment data. The methodology hasn’t changed; it’s a matter of interpretation. I do not think the labor markets are as “tight” as they appear, or maybe it’s better stated that I think the “tightness” is thinner than it looks and is susceptible to a quick reversal that will make the numbers look very different in pretty short order.

That said, the proof will be in the pudding. Absent a return to those stupid lockdowns, I expect those numbers to look a whole lot different a year from now, and likely sooner. But that’s only my educated guess. The results will tell the story. The facts always rule with me, so we shall see.

8dots
8dots
4 years ago
Reply to  JackWebb
JackWebb, since 2018 US economy and SPX are a system control with ultra strong negative feedback loop. This system osc too much, with large wild sharp spikes. If the Fed cont to exaggerate the system will break.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
4 years ago
Reply to  8dots
As we all know from our vast accumulated knowledge and experience, “ultra strong negative feedback” immediately dampens “large wild sharp spikes” down to almost nothing very quickly.
Mish
Mish
4 years ago
Reply to  JackWebb
I have spoken with them many times.
Every one is dedicated and in my experience they are quite good.
They do not have access to the data they need to do their jobs, that is why some of the procedures are as screwy as they are. I want them to weed out duplicate Social Security numbers but they can’t because of some sort of security concern. The SS#s are not encrypted. Why aren’t they?
OK why not a simple sort merge and count the duplicates. Nope cannot do that either.
JackWebb
JackWebb
4 years ago
Reply to  Mish
I never got that far into the weeds. I dealt with them quite a bit, and never once did I suspect any kind of political shading of anything. That’s no guarantee of accuracy, but I never had reason for serious doubts. Every so often, someone who is new to the data will discover that there are six “U” numbers, and yammer darkly. Sometimes I’d laugh, and other times patiently explain it.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
4 years ago
‘if the projected unemployment rate is much lower than u* (the non-accelerating inflation rate of unemployment), that’s a reason to raise interest rates”
The unemployment rate is always going to be “too low”. See: “The Great Demographic Reversal” by
Charles Goodhart and Manoj Pradhan.
MPO45
MPO45
4 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
That’s an astute observation. I keep making the comment that the Fed and others are using 1960’s models for economic analysis and policy. At no point in the history of the US or the world for that matter, have we had a situation where we will have 60 million people “retired” and on social services. Around the world, that number is 1 billion.
In the US, we’ll have 60 million “consumers” not producing or contributing anything. I don’t fault them, they deserve their retirement after working 65 years but who’s going to pick up the slack? We don’t have enough young people to back fill the gap.
Capitalism isn’t designed for 60 million socialist enabled. We need NEW economic models and policy to adjust for this because if nothing is done, it will be long lines, shortages of goods and services and only the wealthy will get priority. If people think the current situation is untenable, wait 8 more years! I suspect it will be 10 times worse.
Christoball
Christoball
4 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Let us not forget that although 10,000 boomers day reach 65….. 5,300 boomers a day are dying. The oldest boomers are more affluent than the younger boomers, and the youngest boomers are more affluent than the generation behind them. Perhaps consumption will drop off dramatically because of net worth declines. Younger people will take up the slack like they always have for millenniums. The so called Greatest Generation had the same type of musings about the boomer generation as you do. My observation is that the boomer generation has as many knuckleheads and rocket scientist as any other generation. The truly GREATEST GENERATION was the generation that raised the so called “Greatest Generation”. In 8 years there will be far fewer people retiring because birth rates dropped almost in half in 1965, and the baby boom was finished. The stewardship of this planet is constantly being transferred.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Reply to  Christoball
Actually, there are complicating factors, like declining intelligence. See here: https://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/IQ/1950-2050/
Rbm
Rbm
4 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Smart is relative to the environment you have to function in.
JackWebb
JackWebb
4 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
The solution is right there in front of anyone’s face: employment at will. For the moment, arrant behavior is rewarded. Not for long.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Reply to  JackWebb
Instead of taxes as a means to transfer wealth, we will have a transfer of welfare.
JRM
JRM
4 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
The fact is that people that are working after 65 have been in a steady climb, and those returning to the job market..
I expect it to jump higher with the continued climb in inflation..
JackWebb
JackWebb
4 years ago
Reply to  JRM
I see more older people behind counters these days, but I can’t extrapolate. I do something else, though. Anyone standing behind a counter gets treated very well by me. I do my damndest, every time, to make that person’s day a little better. You’d be amazed at the power of a sincere “thank you.” I could tell stories, but I already tell too many.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
4 years ago
Reply to  JackWebb
I do too. But sometimes it’s hard to take the facial piercings, and facial and forearm tattoos with a straight face.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
4 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
No worries. The very rich will do OK. They make the rules.
JackWebb
JackWebb
4 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
How about giving us the essential overview? I always hate it when someone wants me to read an entire book if it’s not necessary. I’ll take a flying leap, and guess that the book talks about low birthrates and the implications for employment. I further guess that, in this context, it can be boiled down quite far.
8dots
8dots
4 years ago
When the boomers are gone there are not enough zoomers to replace them. Higher wages, higher health benefits, higher whatever
to unproductive, useless, arrogant workers will cut net income, because we are entitled to get benefit from businesses and gov for
free, doing nothing…
JackWebb
JackWebb
4 years ago
Reply to  8dots
Ah yes, “kids these days.” Whenever I hear a version of that, I repeat a story about “the kids.”
I knew a “kid these days” who joined the Marine Corps out of rebellion against his father and more to the point his father’s vast fortune. The scion of one of the richest old-money families in the entire United States quickly rose to staff sergeant. One day, in Iraq, his Humvee ran over an IED (improvised explosive device.) He was driving, and was ejected into the grass. On the way out, his head was slammed against a pillar, giving him TBI (traumatic brain injury), and purely on instinct he cut two insurgent throats.
He then returned to the burning vehicle (suffering severe burns) and rescued as many comrades as he could, in the process deliberately making himself a target. Next thing he knew, he was in a military hospital in San Diego, staring up at his parents. His father said: I walk in your shadow. The chief of Naval Operations flew out and pinned a medal on his hospital gown; he adamantly refused to tell me what it was. Like all heroes, he denied being a hero. “I was only doing my job.”
You know those Marines who crawled up Mt. Suribachi in 1945 and planted the American flag on top? They are still here. They walk among us. Those are the worthless kids these days, and they will rise to the challenge. They built this country, and they will do their damndest to keep us free. Never forget that. “Kids these days” are better than you think they are. Much, much better. They will do their jobs, and they will do their jobs in the face of death.
8dots
8dots
4 years ago
Reply to  JackWebb
JackWebb, trust me, I am the biggest chicken in the world. I have been in major battle fields, in deadly front lines, blown by enemy and friendly
fire, but I played soccer for many years with guys much younger, because I was the biggest chicken in the game…I still kick few good anti parabolas.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Reply to  JackWebb
My ‘neighbor’ (a Marine colonel) recently talked about his preferred front-line troops (kids from Puerto Rico, city slums, etc.), but not gang members or with extensive criminal records. Suburban kids were not on his recruiting radar.
JackWebb
JackWebb
4 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
A long long time ago, I had a very temporary “job” gathering signatures to put Ed Clark, the libertarian candidate for governor of California, on the ballot. It was the summer of 1978, and I was paid 25 cents a signature. In San Francisco. I quickly divided the street-level city’s people into four groups. Businessmen, secretaries (all female office workers in Macarthur Park), non-English speakers (Chinese and babbling derelicts), and gay men. I started at the noon hour in the financial district, and ended up in the Castro.
First thing was to skip the non-English speakers. Close second was businessmen; the f-ers always wanted more information, and I wanted a god damned quarter. The secretaries were great. I was thin as a rail, and still dusty from having worked in various manual labor jobs in Idaho, and they felt sorry for me. The gay men would sign anything, and it didn’t exactly hurt that I was 20 years old, lean and muscular in a starving sort of way, and wore a cowboy hat. I’m sure my sole pair of Wranglers and my only shirt, a snap-button Western, added to my fly-over mystique. Got lots of signatures, and more than a few phone numbers. LOL
I’d guess that suburban potential recruits were like the businessmen. Question, question, question, question … then “no sale.” LOL
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
4 years ago
Reply to  JackWebb
Great story. I’m sure he’s fine now in whatever shape his body and mind are in after the Service abandoned him to the vagarities of the VA.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Reply to  8dots
If the zoomers can’t cut it in global competition, off-shoring will increase.
8dots
8dots
4 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab, the zoomers have better skills than the old pops, They can compete with the rest of the world.
JackWebb
JackWebb
4 years ago
It’s worth noting that only about half of the covid-caused decline in labor force participation has been made up. This is why the labor market is “tight,” and the number of retirees doesn’t explain it. The non-participants are living on various forms of savings and/or debt, and as those run out they’ll be back in the market — just in time for recessionary hiring declines. Today’s low unemployment numbers are statistically accurate but do not reflect the historical realities. The current tightness is going to evaporate so fast that you won’t even see the steam rising.
Matt3
Matt3
4 years ago
Reply to  JackWebb
I don’t understand how people can live on “various forms of savings and/or debt” this long. Is there some information you are seeing that shows this? Why do you think they will be returning to the workforce soon?
JackWebb
JackWebb
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt3
The savings rate went way up. Mainly stim, but I don’t think entirely. Now it’s back down.
Credit card use declined during the pandemic and is rising.
Labor participation has not returned to the pre-virus level, and you have a bunch of people living on stored fat and/or credit. My point is that covid screwed up the numbers, so it’s quite dicey to look at the jobs numbers and somehow think the economy is booming. I think we’re going to see a very different picture in the relatively near future. Not tomorrow, but it’s gonna happen.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
4 years ago
Reply to  JackWebb
I wish I could live on stored fat. I need to lose about 45 pounds I gained because of this dang virus.

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