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Trump Cancels “Operation Freedom” But We Have a new Goal

It took all of one day for Operation Freedom to fail.

Operation Freedom Cancelled

Truth Social: Based on the request of Pakistan and other Countries, the tremendous Military Success that we have had during the Campaign against the Country of Iran and, additionally, the fact that Great Progress has been made toward a Complete and Final Agreement with Representatives of Iran, we have mutually agreed that, while the Blockade will remain in full force and effect, Project Freedom (The Movement of Ships through the Strait of Hormuz) will be paused for a short period of time to see whether or not the Agreement can be finalized and signed. President DONALD J. TRUMP

May 05, 2026, 4:52 PM

Who Called This One?

Actually it was 2 ships with a mere 2,000 stranded. Had we kept at the same stunning pace, it would only have taken 1,000 day or so.

As of early May 2026, reports indicate that between 1,550 and 2,000 vessels are trapped or stranded in the Persian Gulf and near the Strait of Hormuz, with up to 20,000 seafarers affected.

But now it’s cancelled after just one day. So the final scorecard is 3 ships giving full credit for another one today.

I can’t explain to MAGA how significantly stupid this all looks. But hey, I am pleased to report we have a new goal.

New Goal Announced

Rubio: “The facts clearly bear out, the United States of America holds all the cards. … Our preference is for the Strait to be open, to the way it’s supposed to be, back to the way it was. … That’s what we have to get back to, and that’s the goal here.”

Once again, the MAGA cult is incapable of understanding just how stupid this is.

Q&A on Cards

Q: If the US held all the cards, would the strait be open?
A: Yes

Q: Is the strait open?
A: No

Q: Does the US hold all the cards?
A: No

Pentagon Says Iran Attacking US Ships Is Below Threshold for Renewed War

In case you missed it, please note Pentagon Says Iran Attacking US Ships Is Below Threshold for Renewed War

Suddenly, it seems the US is afraid of war and the higher oil prices that would come.

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Jeff Kassel
Jeff Kassel
28 days ago

I’m obviously in the minority, but degrading Iran’s military is good for the Middle East. It would be better to get rid of the IRGC and the mullahs, but that might take a ground war. If Iran keeps shooting rockets and drones at Arab Gulf countries, they might get a ground war. The blockade will grind Iran down further. There are obvious ruptures in the leadership of Iran, and it looks like the Republican Guard (the guys with guns) have taken control. I think we’re going to see more fireworks before this is done. It’s Iran against the world now. This country has been a problem for 50 years. Kushner, maybe Trump’s bagman, has raised over $6 billion from Gulf States. It would be a shame if Trump used our military in a scheme to get even richer.

‘Lil Mr.
‘Lil Mr.
28 days ago

No matter what deal ensues it will be the greatest of all time and way, way better than Obama’s deal. It will go so much further like keeping the Straight open, no nukes, and no sanctions. Like I said, totally superior to anything Obama ever did.

Nate Kirby
Nate Kirby
28 days ago

“…But We Have a new Goal”
Naahhh – Same goal – still trying to distract from Epstein and other things.

Frosty
Frosty
28 days ago
Reply to  Nate Kirby

Israel First is Trumps priority, regardless of what country he is president of.

Quatloo
Quatloo
28 days ago

Iran’s foreign minister is in Beijing right now, meeting with Xi. Trump knows China has been pushing Iran to try to make a deal to end the war. Iran has undoubtedly been telling China that the US is not serious about negotiating. Trump wants China to help push Iran to do a deal.

So Trump is broadcasting that he is trying to negotiate to end the war. Getting Iran to sign a meaningless MOU to begin a 30-day negotiating process would give Trump something he could misconstrue and distort into keeping the markets afloat and oil prices down for another month.

Last edited 28 days ago by Quatloo
why
why
28 days ago
Reply to  Quatloo

Think about what you are saying here: “China has been pushing Iran to try to make a deal…”

I hear this but the reality is pushing Iran to make a deal actually works against China’s short-term interests.

China sits on ~1.5 billion (that with a b-billions) barrels of oil in a reserve, and currently is buying oil from Russia, and whatever oil Iran can get out by rail. China has no issues with oil in the short-term.

Supporting Iran to resist the US helps China in the short-term: (1) it exhausts the extremely low supply of America munitions and missiles; and (2) this is important when China finally takes back Taiwan – there won’t be anyone who can fight for Taiwan.

So the whole idea China is pushing Iran to make a deal is quite the opposite, imo.

Last edited 28 days ago by why
Quatloo
Quatloo
28 days ago
Reply to  why

Hardly any American munitions are being used during this period while the US blockade is in place. Economically China still has plenty of goods to sell internationally. That is problematic if the Strait remains closed and countries are not in position to buy as much because the oil shortage is wrecking their economies.

Last edited 28 days ago by Quatloo
why
why
28 days ago
Reply to  Quatloo

The strait isn’t as big of a deal as you think for China getting goods out to the world. Think of it this way if China can get Iranian oil by rail it can definitely supply those parts of the world with it’s goods by rail as well.

As to the munitions, you really should look up the figures because since Ukraine and the mini wars with Iran America’s supply is essentially zero. So that means if an enemy bigger than Iran needed to be dealt with America would only have nukes to counter with. Why because America can’t produce fast enough to what it’s using, and had given away.

Think of that for a second because the US has been giving away most of since 2014. And yes it’s that bad. And the number reason why China is telling Iran, imo to keep up the resistance.

Quatloo
Quatloo
28 days ago
Reply to  Quatloo

The Iranians don’t trust Trump farther than they can throw him, all based on his past conduct. That is a huge obstacle to any agreement.

One of Trump’s problems in getting Iran to sign the MOU (now described as a 14-point plan) is that Iran has learned it is a mistake to agree to keep the MOU secret. Last time they ‘agreed’ to a plan, the US immediately claimed the deal agreed was completely different than what Iran and Pakistan thought was agreed to. This time Iran will probably insist on any agreement being made public immediately. If that is the case, Trump will insist there be nothing humiliating in it, which means it won’t get signed.

Last edited 28 days ago by Quatloo
El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
28 days ago
Reply to  Quatloo

There will be no agreement while Trumpstien is in office.

Frosty
Frosty
28 days ago
Reply to  El Trumpedo

Even if there is, Trump will break it. Not worth negotiating with a lying “Israel First” bully.

why
why
28 days ago
Reply to  El Trumpedo

I agree. Trump will be forced to leave the theatre of Iran eventually, likely end of the year or before summer of next year.

Dave Smith
Dave Smith
28 days ago

An interesting article on the war’s impact on oil and things related:

The US will suffer more from oil shock than China, Russia, or EU | Responsible Statecraft

Phil in CT
Phil in CT
28 days ago

Let’s just fast forward to the bit where Trump surrenders but calls it victory.

why
why
28 days ago

https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2026-05-06/senior-iran-mp-says-axios-text-of-us-proposal-is-more-of-a-wishlist-than-a-reality

I knew it, the stench of Trump’s words were so strong even a child could tell it was all bs.

Simmer and stew beware the month of june.

why
why
28 days ago
Reply to  why

There seems to be more to this story as some are saying Pakistani negotiators did indeed confirm Iran is looking at the proposal, but Trump admitted it’s to soon to believe Iran will accept the deal. Suggesting markets are overly optimistic.

The issue with the information is that it seems Trump is serious about the 48hr deadline with Trump saying, “failure to agree would trigger intensified military action.”

Would he attack before going to China? He’d be full on looney tune if he did.

Last edited 28 days ago by why
Frosty
Frosty
28 days ago

Trumps “Israel First” policy has resulted in US farm country’s, regular gas being at $5.00 and diesel over $6.00.

Fertilizer has gone up between 15% and 50% depending on what is used in the US and in other nations is up over 100%. In many areas globally, it is simply unavailable along with fuel.

Food crop plantings on a global basis are down roughly 15% putting 1.3 billion at risk. If the monsoon season does not work out perfectly, 3 billion people’s food supply in Western Asia is threatened.

Elections have consequences!

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
28 days ago
Reply to  Frosty

But you forget, those farmers got to own the libs so their bankruptcy is totally worth it!

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
28 days ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

Stupid Libs, making them force themselves in the bankruptcy! This conspiracy goes deep!

Frosty
Frosty
28 days ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

Interesting comment since I just bought a farm out of bankruptcy from the bank that was owned by a big time Trump supporter with a young son that drove around town in his (now-repossessed) “Rolling Coal” F-250 with Fuck Biden flags flying on the cab.

His MAGA hat turned out to represent MIG “Make Israel Great” instead.

Cleaning up the mess they left behind is quite the project and progressing nicely! I’ll have this place profitable within two years.

The soils will take another 5 years to get healthy as it is a depleted soil’s chemically dependent farming desert right now that can only produce if irrigated. Needs lots of organics and biologically active resetting inputs. Spreading previously windrowed organics and growing Heirloom Buckwheat will help.

Here’s to corn cob pipes, straw hats and Porsche Tractors!

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
28 days ago
Reply to  Frosty

And he will keep blaming Obama/Biden for his predicament and shower praises on Trump no doubt. A true MAGA moron.

todde
todde
28 days ago
Reply to  Frosty

Lots of farmers selling. They feel the time is right to get out.

geez, ya think so? Land prices still very high for now at least.

Frosty
Frosty
27 days ago
Reply to  todde

In my area, farmers are going bankrupt. They over leveraged themselves on equipment, fertilizers, pesticides and fuel.

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
28 days ago
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Quatloo
Quatloo
28 days ago
Reply to  Joe Penny
Feral Finster
Feral Finster
28 days ago
Reply to  Joe Penny

There is no deal with Iran that will satisfy Israel.

Trump is of course a puppet, a pathetic weakling cuck.

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
28 days ago
Reply to  Joe Penny
Last edited 28 days ago by Joe Penny
MPO45v2
MPO45v2
28 days ago
Reply to  Joe Penny

And are you positioned for profits? Just bought back oil stock calls dirt cheap after selling sky high. It’s gonna be a great week for profitgasms.

notmsn
notmsn
28 days ago

It would have been cheaper to pay the toll than to use extraordinarily expensive US warships to escort a couple of vessels through the straight.

The US military has proven in it’s interventions over the last 20 years that paying off the adversaries should be preferable to burning cash by deploying forces.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
28 days ago
Reply to  notmsn

Depends – the ship owners aren’t necessarily paying for US war budgets and Israel definitely isn’t, so letting the military fight it out may be cheaper for the ship owners, and costs Israel nothing.

David Heartland
David Heartland
28 days ago

I am no Genius, but in March I commented to a trading pal, after a few TACO’s: “They must be trading this????!!!”

It would be just TOO EASY, right? There was a bit of “noise” about an investigation into strange block trades coming through (THE SEC HAS A FEW DESKS ASSIGNED TO THE TASK) and WHAM: Story disappeared.

It is disgustingly easy to spot.

Theoriginaluke
Theoriginaluke
28 days ago

Axios reported the memo involves Iran committing to a moratorium on nuclear enrichment, the US agreeing to lift sanctions, and both sides lifting ⁠restrictions on the Strait of Hormuz.
Reacting to the report, Iranian lawmaker Ebrahim Rezaei said it “is more of an American wish list than reality”.
“The Americans will not achieve in a failed war what they did not gain in face-to-face negotiations,” Rezaei said on X.

Shelmas
Shelmas
28 days ago
Reply to  Theoriginaluke

Wow, this would be one huge TACO if the US agrees now to a memo of understanding. It doesn’t seem clear to me exactly what a memo gets the US, since memos generally just define what the points of discussion are rather than achieving specific agreements. My guess is that Trump really, really wants something prior to his going to China on May 14. If the US naval blockade of Iran is still in place then, I would expect some very tense discussions about it. Iran wants an end to the blockade, but China wants an end too. And China is tired of playing along, as shown by the Chinese government recently telling banks to ignore US sanctions and continue providing finances to the teapot refineries using Iranian oil. Or maybe we get a double TACO, nothing happens, and Trump again postpones his trip to China.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
28 days ago
Reply to  Shelmas

I hope he goes. I want to see his boo-boo face walking back to the airplane after Xi gives him a spanking and sits him down at the kids table.

CJW
CJW
28 days ago
Reply to  Theoriginaluke

Sounds a lot like the Obama deal which they already had in place and Trump ripped up. Now Trump’s Art of the deal can’t even get him back to what Obama achieved. Talk about a failed Presidency. Has there ever been a worse one?

and now JD Vance is next in line for the Crown? This is the best and brightest that America has to offer? Too many failed presidencies = a failed state.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
28 days ago
Reply to  CJW

Iran is angry about all those buildings they blew up and wants compensation for them. That deal is off the table.

CJW
CJW
28 days ago

Tremendous military success? I guess Trump doesn’t realize that a military operation is a tool used to achieve your goals. The measure of success is not how loud the bomb are, or how much damage they do, but in whether your goals were achieved. In this case, at least thus far, this has been a tremendous military failure, not due to the soldiers but due to the leaders.

David Heartland
David Heartland
28 days ago
Reply to  CJW

This can only mean one thing: We have NO goal of winning militarily. THE GOAL IS THE SPENDING and feeding the MIC.

pokercat
pokercat
28 days ago

That is the senior military goal (they’ll get their reward when they retire to cushy jobs) trumps goal is continued coverup of the Epstein/trump child rape and sexual crimes and possibly murder.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
28 days ago
Reply to  CJW

The only real goal was to get the Epstein files out of the news cycle, and prevent bibi from releasing what he has. Great success, so far.

njbr
njbr
28 days ago

Meanwhile, as the clock ticks, the economy is doing “great”…

Hassett on American consumers: “Credit card spending is through the roof. They’re spending more on gasoline, but they’re spending more on everything else too.”

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
28 days ago
Reply to  njbr

It’s the end of the world, and they know it. They feel fine.

PapaDave
PapaDave
28 days ago

Iran just launched a website to charge ships for passage through the Strait of Hormuz. Is that part of the deal?

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
28 days ago
Reply to  PapaDave

it looks like it was officially denied by Iran:

Informed Iranian sources to “The New Arab”: What is published by the American media about the details of the negotiations does not reflect the reality of what is going on

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/news/breaking#13665185

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
28 days ago

Keep in mind Israel is predictably demanding more escalation:
https://x.com/ME_Observer_/status/2051716003545928163

Quatloo
Quatloo
28 days ago

Israel’s Finance Minister says his son asked that they not destroy all of Lebanon before he has a chance to do some destroying himself
https://news.antiwar.com/2026/05/05/israeli-finance-minister-smotrich-says-son-asked-him-to-leave-some-of-lebanon-for-him-to-destroy/

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
28 days ago

Yep…TRUMP hyping up the market to new highs before the next rug-pull, count on it.

I’m back robbyrob
I’m back robbyrob
28 days ago

Yves Smith I do not see how Iran can accept a one-page napkin doodle from the US. This is unserious unless the US actually does set a timetable for releasing frozen asset. But this is politically untenable from the US end. So this looks like a big market (and China) appeasing headfake.

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
28 days ago

That’s a mike drop post and worthy of 2-star Mishelin award (would have been 3 with musical tribute 😆).

This morning Trump said he would bomb unless Iran accepted peace, the irony.

“That’s what we have to get back to, and that’s the goal here.”

Lol. Is that all, what a meager ask for someone holding all the cards.

Oil is down 10% today so a great time to reposition investments (sell puts, buy back calls or whatever banks profits). This is when the clown shines for a few minutes each day in an otherwise gloomy forecast.

Only thing now is to see what the clown breaks next….

Do worry, Trump will find a way to make things even worse.™ 

Dave Smith
Dave Smith
28 days ago

Several have replied about the US paying restitution for the damages done as a result of the Iran war. Fine, but with what? Contrary to the president’s claim that the economy is booming even better than his first term, the US is broke and the fiscal situation in our country is a mess swirling in the toilet bowl for a final flush that some refer to as a reset. We cannot pay our bills now, so why was it such a good idea to start this tragic war and create financial obligations that will almost assuredly initiate massive deficits with associated inflation and the associated collapse in our standard of living. Our country is run by economically delusional fools and we citizens are going to pay the price.

why
why
28 days ago
Reply to  Dave Smith

And with that Dave you show exactly why America won’t be giving restitution to Iran, and also why empires never go out with a wimper but with a bang.

(the only way to prove one is right is by killing off all that prove one to be wrong; the only problem is the sheer size of those who think one is wrong. – they alway catch up in the end and the one is left hanging by their neck on a rope)

CJW
CJW
28 days ago
Reply to  Dave Smith

Record corporate profits combined with record high government debt. What is wrong with this picture? Oh ya, tax cuts for the wealthy in the BBB.

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
28 days ago
Reply to  CJW

kleptocracy in action.

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
28 days ago
Reply to  Dave Smith

That’s why Iran wants to open the toll plaza on the Hormuzzy, to fund their restitution/rebuild…the Strait will be around long after the US has been ground to dust or becomes a Planet of the Apes hellscape.

Last edited 28 days ago by Joe Penny
pokercat
pokercat
28 days ago
Reply to  Dave Smith

Not GOING to, we have already started to pay the price.

Theoriginaluke
Theoriginaluke
28 days ago

Looking at the last post of Trump it is quite possible that Iran is going to decline the proposal….

Common Sense
Common Sense
28 days ago

Now that we’ve stepped in it, there’s only one solution: work with the government in exile to get them to agree to: internationally, supervised, elections, accept Israel, stop funding terrorists, amnesty to the regime except for the top leaders if they swear loyalty to the democratic government.
Then supply the people with millions of small arms and let them convince the regime their days are over.

pokercat
pokercat
28 days ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Afghanistan, Iraq and Vietnam all rolled into one.
We’ll be lucky if Iran doesn’t physically invade the continental US./s

Last edited 28 days ago by pokercat
todde
todde
28 days ago
Reply to  Common Sense

youre going to have to stop with the bullshit and fairy tales and start dealing with reality.

none of that is going to happen.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
28 days ago
Reply to  Common Sense

Because none of that ever was tried before.

PapaDave
PapaDave
28 days ago

Trump just posted on Truth Social that Fury and Freedom are over. Assuming they can get a deal with Iran. Which in his own words “is a big assumption”.

From Javier Blas:

“ According to the @Axios report, the Strait of Hormuz would only re-open “gradually” during a 30-day period of negotiations *if* an initial deal on a single page memorandum of understanding can be achieved in the next few hours/days.”

1. IF a MOU is agreed upon
2. THEN negotiations can begin for 30 days

Negotiations have happened twice before. What was the result?

Pedro
Pedro
28 days ago
Reply to  PapaDave

They are clearly just playing for time. This will go on until August at least. Their main goal is political devastation for Trump in the midterms. They know they can’t win on the Battlefield, so they are influencing the empire politically to further their goals. It’s really their only option

Stu
Stu
28 days ago
Reply to  Pedro

The Billions I heard tossed around, would buy a lot of weapons, and with sharpened skill sets, like remote detonations for example, and Drones galore, and the more sophisticated ones available with money, I could see a phony surrender of sorts…

Quatloo
Quatloo
28 days ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Trump would love to get Iran to sign an MOU (to keep stock markets up and oil prices down for 30 days) in exchange for…nothing.

Good luck.

William Jackson
William Jackson
28 days ago

Thank Goodness Kamala and Biden are gone—by now Iran would have a bomb to hit Europe –ships would be paying a million per passage and billions of cash at the airport

PapaDave
PapaDave
28 days ago

Lol! Good one!

CJW
CJW
28 days ago

I will take stupid over crazy every time.

todde
todde
28 days ago

roflmao.

strongGnu
strongGnu
28 days ago

To sum up – nothing changed but the price of oil. IMAGINE IF YOU COULD SAY A FEW WORDS AND THE WORLD BENDS TO YOUR WILL. Mish is jealous. Buy oil.

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
28 days ago
Reply to  strongGnu

The only one bending over is Orange Julius, taking a dreidel straight up the pooper

PapaDave
PapaDave
28 days ago
Reply to  strongGnu

You said oil was going down to $40 by years end. Now you say buy? I assume you mean for a trade.

We can agree on one thing. Buy oil stocks. Preferably Canadian oil stocks, and some US.

Dave Smith
Dave Smith
28 days ago
Reply to  strongGnu

Come back next fall and let us know what has not changed with respect to food supply and prices, general supply of all things relying on petroleum energy and the derivative products and the electronics’ industry ability to manufacture products to name a few. The great recession of 2008 might be recollected as pretty good times.

George
George
28 days ago
Reply to  strongGnu

The bond market is telling what’s next…

Peace
Peace
28 days ago

Ohhhhh…. Trump.
I thought this time Trump is coming with latest AI warfare
and fight decisively and clear the strait.
TACO – You’re joking again.

John Overington
John Overington
28 days ago

Where have all the Trump supporters gone? Am I all alone? Another great trading day.

Jon
Jon
28 days ago

Yes, you will be the single vote for Republicans in the mid-terms!

El Trumpedo
El Trumpedo
28 days ago

The unpaid and non-robotic ones are all snug in their safe spaces, having the circle jerk of their lives.

Stu
Stu
28 days ago

One could look at this entirely different than proposed. What if the Administration wishes to have a reason, to do what the President just referenced recently. “blow Iran off the face of the earth“ He has said repeatedly. Of corse Iran needs to give him a reason (done), and he needs others to agree (done), Trump needs a plan as well, if this is the avenue they wish to pursue. IMO it may be the only solution at this point. Perhaps they have been planning the entire plans method of the attack, what, where, and whomever even. This would take about as much time as has been given to achieve such an action.

Q&A on Cards:

Q: Does the US hold all the cards?
A: No

Q: If a massive and final military strike was accomplished, would the US hold all the cards?
A: Yes

Q: what else?
A: The entire clean-up of what they accomplished, caring and feeding for the survivors, and help from whomever they can to do so very quickly.

Q: can it be done?
A: Yes, but only with a perfectly executed strike plan, and accomplishing it once and for all, with no need to do so again, in my lifetime anyway.
> Food, clothing, accommodations are going to be required as well, after this. They will need to have all of this in place from the start, and before a shot is fired. I will assume, if they do so, it has been the plan for many months, and the US was simply buying themselves some time to get things into place.
Possible? I think so, but we shall shortly see… if not, then what is up next?

pokercat
pokercat
28 days ago
Reply to  Stu

What is up next should be a three step plan, simple, direct and successful.

  1. Surrender, stop all military action in the region and withdraw.
  2. make restitution for damages and deaths, hold tribunals for war crimes
  3. Bring all US military personnel and equipment back inside USA borders
why
why
28 days ago
Reply to  pokercat

Though I agree that the US should withdraw (Trump has no cards and this is putting many countries into a recession if not depression), and that the US should pay for or help in the rebuilding of Iran.

The problem is history shows this rarely happens unless the aggressor is defeated, and by that it’s meant with a lot of losses to it’s civilian population (dying in war or by a devastating attack that makes the aggressor “cry uncle” or both).

Stu
Stu
28 days ago
Reply to  pokercat

1. Surrender, stop all military action in the region and withdraw. > We have tried this over and over, and offered to do so, but without the handing over, of ALL Nuclear forms in there possession, it’s not a viable option, with us being blown off of the Earth, and especially now!

2. make restitution for damages and deaths, hold tribunals for war crimes > For everyone killed or just whom the US did, and self defense or for all regardless? This is not something that has even a prayer (Iran does so well, but to no avail on this topic imo) of happening…

3. Bring all US military personnel and equipment back inside USA borders > From everywhere but the U.S. itself? That would be silly? How do we defend ourselves? We NEED troops in the region and especially right now? Do you actually trust Iran to do anything they say they will? They have not as of yet, but hold out hope…

Sentient
Sentient
28 days ago
Reply to  Stu

Iran has does exactly what they said they would. Trump lies about everything and has used negotiations to set up sneak attacks.

Stu
Stu
28 days ago
Reply to  Sentient

Iran has repeatedly lied about all sorts of things, or if you prefer, distorted or manipulated the truth, for their own political gain.
We do too, so not surprising. It is a war strategy that’s been utilized forever. Don’t act like Iran is not doing so as well. This is also only what we know or have been told, what about what we don’t know yet?

P.S. During Wartime, everybody lies…

pokercat
pokercat
28 days ago
Reply to  Stu

Regardless of Iran’s or other countries crimes like Israel in Gaza America should hold it’s self and it’s leaders both civilian and military to the highest standards. We should not lower ourselves to be the worlds most powerful terrorist nation.

why
why
28 days ago
Reply to  Stu

Q: can it be done?
A: Yes with nukes.

That’s the only way I can see your plan working.

Stu
Stu
28 days ago
Reply to  why

I hope you’re wrong, as that is the last, and only method I totally am against.

Trump would be exceedingly hypocritical to use Nuclear Weapons, against a Country he wants never to posses themselves. Not to mention, it would never, ever be forgotten, until the favor was exceedingly repaid imo.

why
why
28 days ago
Reply to  Stu

One thing to note is that in this excursion with Iran Trump isn’t the only one with nukes that could attack Iran. Also we must accept that nukes could mean tactical, which would be the better of the nuclear options to use as the fallout is reduced to blocks not hundreds of miles.

But I agree using nukes really shouldn’t be an option (that is if you care about humanity and the world) because doing so opens the door for anyone with a nuke to use them after.

Last edited 28 days ago by why
Frosty
Frosty
28 days ago
Reply to  Stu

Genocide is genocide. Nuclear weapons used by the US or Israel are the same as the indiscriminate bombing or starvation in Gaza, bombing and invasion of Lebanon and the destruction of Irans infrastructure. You are condoning the US bombing school children and hospitals, but saying nucs are off limits? Killing is killing by any method and Trump is a war criminal by any standard.

This from an American farmer and former Republican.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
28 days ago
Reply to  Frosty

Damn straight.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
28 days ago
Reply to  Stu

Trump already is a hypocrite and liar, not to mention a thug and a puppet.

He does not care.

Stu
Stu
28 days ago
Reply to  Feral Finster

I agree with a liar, as I already stated. Hypocrite is a worthy title at times, but sometimes it is said as such, but it really isn’t necessarily. One thing Trump is definitely not, is a Puppet. He answers to Trump, and Only Trump!!! Please don’t use the bogus Israel connection, that doesn’t truly exist. They follow his lead if you pay close attention. They have a mind of their own too, so if a hole is left (Ex. Lebanon), they will quickly exploit it, just as Trump does. That have a mutual respect and understanding on this I do believe.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
28 days ago
Reply to  Stu

One word: Epstein.

Trump most assuredly is a puppet, a weakling, a pathetic little cuck. Hell, Rubio admitted that the US went to war for Israel.

Tollsforthee
Tollsforthee
28 days ago
Reply to  Stu

None of that explains why he is so slavishly devoted to Russia.

Six000MileYear
Six000MileYear
28 days ago
Reply to  why

The whispers were top brass discouraged Trump from a nuke attack. Within the past week there were reports of seismic activity indicative of an underground nuclear detonation in the southwest US. I interpret such an act as a projection of force.

why
why
28 days ago
Reply to  Six000MileYear

I didn’t realize that there may have been a potential nuclear testing in the past week by the US.

That’s very odd the given the timing, Trump soon to be in China and all.

Last edited 28 days ago by why
Frosty
Frosty
28 days ago
Reply to  why

China has nothing to gain by talking to our liar in chief. Perhaps they will simply humiliate him by not showing up when he lands?

A nice “WAR MONGERING PEDOPHILE’S NOT WELCOME” billboard would be a good touch!

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
28 days ago
Reply to  Frosty

Or just “Release the Epstein Files! What are you so scared of?

Shelmas
Shelmas
28 days ago
Reply to  Stu

In terms of your question “Can it be done?”, you really haven’t defined the “it”, but let’s go with something akin to complete surrender by Iran (i.e. US gets everything it wants.) Air power has never caused a country to surrender with perhaps one exception. Take WWII. Germany’s blitz of England didn’t do it. The Allies bombing of Germany didn’t do it. The US fire bombing of Japan didn’t do it. The possible exception–the US nuclear bombing of Japan, although even that was not a stand alone event but accompanied by the certainty of a future US ground invasion. Let us pray that your “perfectly executed strike plan” being planned by Trump does not include a nuclear option.

Stu
Stu
28 days ago
Reply to  Shelmas

It’s not a surrender they are necessarily looking for. It’s the Uranium, and any ability left to be able to have Nuclear capabilities. They are trying the easy way, to have a surrender of it all, and inspections to follow, but Iran won’t move on that.
So what may happen imo, is another round of bombs that penetrate deeply inside, and along with that, enough damage within the Country to allow the people of Iran and there already trained, and a large number of them as well, to do the takeover of power. Not much to take and own at this point, but someone will claim it.

Can it be done? Not so sure, but it’s going to be tried if it’s the only option left for America. I guess it’s up to Iran now, full capitulation, OR Annihilation of anything you think you saved, and bits and pieces of all important infrastructure as well, to further cripple the build back up potential.

Theoriginaluke
Theoriginaluke
29 days ago

A Pakistani source involved in peace efforts has been quoted by Reuters as saying the US and Iran are closing in on a one-page memo to end the war.
“We will close this very soon. We are getting close,” the source told Reuters, confirming a separate report from Axios.

Theoriginaluke
Theoriginaluke
28 days ago
Reply to  Theoriginaluke

Cited two US officials and two other sources ⁠briefed on the discussions, Axios said the the deal would, among others, involve Iran committing to a moratorium on nuclear enrichment, the US agreeing to lift its sanctions and release billions of dollars in frozen Iranian funds, and both sides lifting ⁠restrictions around transit through the Strait of Hormuz.

Woodsie Guy
Woodsie Guy
28 days ago
Reply to  Theoriginaluke

So pretty much back to where we were before this all started. Trump is a pathetic at negotiating. What a moron.

Stu
Stu
28 days ago
Reply to  Woodsie Guy

Exactly! I also think the amount of money is a much, much higher amount perhaps, than I recall…

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
28 days ago
Reply to  Woodsie Guy

wrong post

Last edited 28 days ago by Feral Finster
Raj Kumar
Raj Kumar
28 days ago
Reply to  Theoriginaluke

So in a word. JOPCA is reinstated and the current regime in Iran wins this round. The US looses because it wasn’t able to achieve its stated goal of regime change.

All the US has managed to do is to make it self look foolish and all its global allies are left wondering at the reliability of the US

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
28 days ago
Reply to  Raj Kumar

There is no deal that the United States will not break at the first opportunity, and there is no deal that will satisfy Israel.

Stu
Stu
28 days ago
Reply to  Theoriginaluke

No mention of handing over the Nuclear dust, and any other remnants of such? That would be very odd imo? This was the entire purpose after all.

JCH1952
JCH1952
28 days ago
Reply to  Stu

It had no purpose. General Bone Spurs wanted to play war this afternoon. Now he’s tired and cranky and needs a nap.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
28 days ago
Reply to  Stu

Nonsense. “Nuclear dust” was a pretext. So was “protesters” “mullahs” “the Straits” and everything else.

The real goal was ever always only to turn Iran into a failed state. Any “deal” simply means that the neocons will shift to Plan B.

pokercat
pokercat
28 days ago
Reply to  Feral Finster

That is most probably Israel’s goal and maybe some in the US Govt but trump’s main and maybe only goal was to continue the Epstein/trump coverup.

Feral Finster
Feral Finster
28 days ago
Reply to  pokercat

The only way Trump can do that is to keep on dancing like a marionette while Netanyahu jerks the strings.

Flavia
Flavia
28 days ago
Reply to  Theoriginaluke

Axios, lol.
Trump’s little squawkbox.

cambeiu
cambeiu
29 days ago

Sounds like the U.S. dared Iran to shoot at them, they did and Trump isn’t ready to restart the war so Project Freedom is over.

Stu
Stu
28 days ago
Reply to  cambeiu

He has the excuse now…

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
29 days ago

US Gasoline Stocks Rapidly Disappearing

https://imgur.com/screenshot-ZOvwz8f

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
29 days ago

“May 05, 2026, 4:52 PM”

…and he did it on TACO Tuesday…what a f__king LEGEND !!!!

Wait, he paused it, not cancelled…more FAKE NEWS

“Project Freedom (The Movement of Ships through the Strait of Hormuz) will be paused for a short period of time”

Last edited 29 days ago by Joe Penny
Oldbuckeye
Oldbuckeye
29 days ago

Two comments: First, Orange clown says ‘oil could be $250-$300/barrel, so it’s not bad’. Just check historical data. I found (in 2014 indexed $) the price has never gone over $150/ barrel. Why does anyone take this psycho seriously, or even listen?! Second, there is no intent to ever reach an agreement with Iran. Orange Bozo did the same thing with Ukraine in negotiating with Putin. In both cases, ‘our adversaries’ had existential, sovereign rights that were non-negotiable. And maga never had any intention of having honest dialogue.

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
29 days ago
Reply to  Oldbuckeye

His “some people said energy would be $300” comments are just him doing his best NYC shyster routine. Over ask and under pay.

Oldbuckeye
Oldbuckeye
28 days ago
Reply to  Joe Penny

Amen! He has a bs degree!

Tenacious D
Tenacious D
28 days ago
Reply to  Oldbuckeye

Off topic but given your moniker, are you looking forward to having tech carpetbagger Vivek Rama-lama-ding-dong as your next governor? All those data centers will look nice next to your utility bills that start feeling like car payments.

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
28 days ago
Reply to  Tenacious D

“Do not redeem, sir….DO NOT REDEEM!!!!”

Oldbuckeye
Oldbuckeye
28 days ago
Reply to  Tenacious D

Yep, Vivek is more of the same maga-trump cabal. Can’t get a decent candidate thru the primaries. But of course if trump endorses him, he’s gotta be good, right!(pure sarcasm here) watch lady graham get re-elected to the senate. I had thought they would make him a rear admiral LOL!

Jeffery Whitaker
Jeffery Whitaker
29 days ago

It’s hard not to notice that Trump’s plans for the Iran war don’t seem to be working out. Hence, his cancellation of “Operation Freedom”. Also, since when is shooting at US military assets not an act of war? The Trump folks are playing word games because our Congress wants some answers, and the present administration doesn’t have very many.

Tollsforthee
Tollsforthee
28 days ago

That was one of the biggest TACOs ever, sailing a US warship under enemy fire, and doing… nothing.

J. Traveler
J. Traveler
29 days ago

Netanyahu has been awful quiet …

Joe Penny
Joe Penny
29 days ago
Reply to  J. Traveler

His prostate hasn’t

Sentient
Sentient
28 days ago
Reply to  J. Traveler

Netanyahu is awful.

jackula
jackula
29 days ago

In Trump’s fantasy world where he controls the narrative he’s won the war. I think in the real world Trump’s hands are tied, period. Iran can instruct the Houthis to close access to the Red Sea, can close the Straight of Hormuz at will, and can destroy ME infrastructure with missiles and drones in retaliation to any attacks. What options does he have? Next up Operation Market Manipulation 2…

Fubar111111
Fubar111111
29 days ago

Trump’s hand of cards: 2, 5, 6,7,10 of 4 suits, no wildcrads

Iran’s hand of cards: 5 Aces

Of course cards don’t matter when you are playing 2 differing games – Trump is playing checkers at Grade 2 level, Iran is playing chess at GrandMaster level

One of these sides has suffered total strategic defeat, the other side has achieved resounding victory. In the vast empty spaces inside Trump’s head, he is the winner, while it is obvious to the rest of the world he is the loser.

One side lives in the real world, where actions matter more than words, and the other is in a delusional dream-world of imagined past glories where it is believed that whatever bullshit statment is made it is somehow a fact.

why
why
29 days ago

I actually read, after my past post in another thread, that the US govt actually admitted to getting attacked by Iran. But due to the greatness of the American military not a ship was harmed.

Less than 12hrs and we have this?

All the cards you say? You realize Trump you can’t play with a stack of uno cards when playing poker, right?

Anyways simmer and stew beware the month of june.

Jack
Jack
29 days ago

Rubio and team have all the cards but they are playing Uno.

Fubar111111
Fubar111111
29 days ago
Reply to  Jack

Rubio’s business card says “MIA – if you see this man, call police””

For a guy who’s business card says “National Security Advisor” and “Secretary of State”, where has he been hiding the last few months? Florida, looking longinglky towards Cuba, from his yacht? A bunker in an undisclosed location?

Maybe he’s just the invisible man, he is there, somewhere, but you just can’t see him.

Sentient
Sentient
28 days ago
Reply to  Jack

Rubio is so inauthentic. He always inserts some gibberish that he think makes him sound smart – “the facts bear this out”… Mr Soundbite.

Flavia
Flavia
28 days ago
Reply to  Sentient

And where’s he been for the last few months? Why didn’t he attend negotiations in Pakistan?

Tony Frank
Tony Frank
29 days ago

Taco does have a long time record of one failure after another. Why should he change now?

Art
Art
29 days ago
Reply to  Tony Frank

I does appear that all major policy announcements occur over weekends. Maybe Mish can verify.

Fubar111111
Fubar111111
29 days ago
Reply to  Tony Frank

Well at least he is consistent, though being wrong about everything is not a good track record to brag about.

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