Deeper Panic and More Restrictions Coming Over a Covid-19 Omicron Surge?

prumbly

4 years ago

Doesn’t seem sensible to force people to take ineffective, deadly vaccines when the disease they are supposed to prevent kills hardly anyone. Once again we have a huge, massively hyped over-reaction to a fairly benign pandemic. Makes you wonder what extremes of authoritarianism they would go to if a genuinely dangerous pandemic, like the 1918 Spanish flu, was to ever happen again.

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Jojo

4 years ago

Reply to prumbly

This has been just a preliminary dry run. There have been stories circulating that we are not ready for the next pandemic. Just saw one yesterday!

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Jojo

4 years ago

Vaccines Are Sabotaging the Immune System. Shingles May Hold Some Answers

History suggests the condition known as shingles could well represent a detoxification reaction to vaccination.

Dec 9, 2021

Long before the arrival of experimental COVID injections — which, let’s not forget, pharma executives refer to not as “vaccines” but as “cell and gene therapy” — the package inserts of licensed vaccines told the public a disturbing story.

The documentation of 400 different types of adverse reactions affecting virtually all organs and body systems, available to anyone willing to click on the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s links, offered “hidden-in-plain-sight” clues of countless ways in which vaccination’s aggressive immune-system intervention can cause fine-tuned immune responses to go awry.

Those package inserts, as damning as they still are, have just been eclipsed by shocking in-house Pfizer data forced into view by a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request.

The company’s confidential inventorying of reactions, which was “never supposed to see the light of day,” shows that in the first 90 days of the injection’s emergency use (through Feb. 28, 2021), Pfizer recorded more than 158,000 different adverse events — including 1223 deaths — distributed across 42,086 case reports.

While blood clots and heart problems following COVID vaccination have probably attracted the most widespread attention, Pfizer’s adverse event chart displaying 27 different “system organ classes” reveals wide-ranging problems — many of which highlight a disturbing “reprogramming” of recipients’ immune responses.

Post-vaccination shingles

Among the immune dysfunctions Pfizer noted to be “of special interest” (listed in the “other” category) were 281 events related to herpes zoster (popularly known as shingles), with a median onset of one day following COVID vaccination.

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https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/covid-vaccines-shingles-immune-system-detoxification/

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Jojo

4 years ago

CA has a law called Prop65, which requires warnings on anything sold in the state that has the potential to cause cancer or reproductive problems.

As soon as there is some confirmed medical research from anywhere in the world that the CoVax DOES increase the risk of cancer or cause ANY SORT of reproductive issues due to the contents of the shots, such as infertility or miscarriages, then this warning will be required for all CoVax shots administered in California.

When/if this warning gets attached to the CoVax shots, you can wave buh-bye to future CoVax shots, whether first shots or boosters. People will be panicking as their fear gets flogged by the MSM.

This may be one reason why the FDA and Pfizer are fighting tooth and nail to prevent the disclosure of what’s in the CoVax shots.

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Jojo

4 years ago

Big news here! I expect that there will be similar findings for the other Covid antiviral drugs and the CoVax shots themselves. We really don’t have enough knowledge to be messing with DNA/RNA outside of the lab, let alone with a full pseudo vaccine rollout to the entire population.

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Merck’s Covid Pill Might Pose Risks for Pregnant Women

Some
laboratory studies suggest that molnupiravir can insert errors in DNA,
which could in theory harm a developing fetus, sperm cells or children.

Dec 13, 2021

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/13/health/merck-covid-pill-pregnancy-risk.html

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tbergerson

4 years ago

Reply to Jojo

The Pfizer drug is an antiviral 3CL protease inhibitor, unlike the Merck drug. It may even be e better protease inhibitor than Ivermectin, if at hundreds of times the cost.

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Jojo

4 years ago

Reply to tbergerson

As noted on a news story this morning, one big problem with the antivirals is that they need to be taken ASAP once you start getting symptoms. But that is difficult to do here in the USA.

Imagine if you start getting sick. Now you have to reach out to your MD, which may take hours or days to get a response back. Then you have to convince them to issue a prescription. Then you have to get that script filled, arrange to pay any co-pays/deductibles and send someone to get it who is hopefully not infected themselves (or have it delivered). It’s not an easy process.

This would work better if you could get a proactive prescription but I don’t think many MD’s would do that.

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Scooot

4 years ago

The Health Secretary made a statement in The Commons this afternoon.

“Sajid Javid begins his statement by telling MPs that the current number of daily infections are around 200,000.

He says Omicron will become the dominant variant in London in the next 48 hours and represents 20% of cases in England.

Hospitalisations and deaths are expected to “dramatically increase” in the next few weeks and the NHS will return to its highest level of emergency preparedness, he adds.”

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RonJ

4 years ago

@biancoresearch: “Again, when cases rise, politicians panic and restrict the economy.

Hospitalizations, recoveries, and treatments matter, but POLICY is made by panicky politicians over rising case counts, like the panicky politician that is going to speak from #10 Downing in about 2 hours.”

Are politicians panicky, or is it something else? Power hungry?

A high vitamin D level helps protect against Covid-19. That doesn’t even require a prescription from a doctor. Neither does a nebulizer with food grade hydrogen peroxide, or zinc + Quercetin. Don’t need one for Aspirin, either. Even without the obstructed anti-viral therapies, one doesn’t have to be held helpless against Covid-19, vaxxed or unvaxxed.

Why is it that they want us held helpless against Covid-19, except for their rigid solution? In Oregon, 552 Covaxxed have officially died of Covid. They were denied early treatment, along with the unCovaxxed.

Government public health agencies should really be about public health, rather than political and financial agendas.

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Jojo

4 years ago

Reply to RonJ

Cases be gone! Lower case numbers might also look better for Dems in midterm elections.

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Why Hospitalizations Are Now a Better Indicator of Covid’s Impact

Dec. 11, 2021, 3:00 p.m. ET

By Monica Gandhi and Leslie Bienen

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/11/opinion/why-hospitalizations-are-now-a-better-indicator-of-covids-impact.html

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ohno

4 years ago

They really need these vaccine passports. “No federal passport” yet 30 suckass states are in on it. Same as with no vaccine mandates yet let companies do what they want. I am convinced these vaccines are bad for your heart. I hear heart warnings all the time at night on the radio now. I watched the 2nd dose nearly kill my neighbor. No thanks. I seen it first hand.

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Zardoz

4 years ago

Reply to ohno

The penis pills that radio station peddles will fix you right up…. If not, double down with some of their supplements and magic pillow.

Dr. Zardoz has spoken!

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Doug78

4 years ago

Reply to Zardoz

Viagra is a penis pill.

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tbergerson

4 years ago

Reply to Doug78

Actually there was a recent study that it may stave off alzheimers. Increases blood flow and helps brain clear junk. Helps with congnitive ability generally too.

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RonJ

4 years ago

Reply to Zardoz

Safe and effective are magic words.

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mrusa

4 years ago

Does anyone know if they are using the same PCR test from almost two years ago? That test was wildly inaccurate in distinguishing between actual COVID-19 and over seasonal forms of COVID. I’m curious how they are able to determine new variants?

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thimk

4 years ago

New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has granted permission for people to use the bathroom when visiting family and friends.

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1465394555864420356

Stated without additional commentary

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randocalrissian

4 years ago

Reply to thimk

LOL did you see her winky emoji at the end? Sincerely, Poe’s Law

Why so triggered by jokes?

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Zardoz

4 years ago

Reply to thimk

Instructions unclear: peed on my brother’s leg.

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FromBrussels

4 years ago

Reply to thimk

that s what democrazy is all about , innit ?

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Jojo

4 years ago

Reply to thimk

She also stated that orgies with up to 25 people are okay.

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KidHorn

4 years ago

Wonder when the common cold will be considered a covid variant.

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Blurtman

4 years ago

Dying with Covid versus dying from Covid – what is the standard?

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KidHorn

4 years ago

Reply to Blurtman

Anyone who dies within 30 days of a positive covid test died of covid. Even if they were killed in a car accident.

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Zardoz

4 years ago

Reply to KidHorn

Truly a man that speaks from his posterior. “I don’t know anything, but I like the way this sounds, therefore it’s gospel truth I will defend to the death!!!”

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FromBrussels

4 years ago

Reply to Zardoz

Why don t you stuff your silly rant where the sun don t shine ! FACT is that the so called vaccines DO NOT work …..the graphs are plain to see: the more shots the more covid ! Of course the ugly confronting truth hurts , but give it a try and face it for once and for fn all !…before going for your 4th one …

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Zardoz

4 years ago

Reply to FromBrussels

You don’t even know what a “fact” is. You just glom on to whatever your favorite kook of the moment spews on your word screen.

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KidHorn

4 years ago

Reply to Zardoz

30 days from the last positive test is the standard time period required to be considered to be covid free for most health authorities. Everyone in that period is considered to have covid. And anyone who dies with covid is reported to have covid as a cofactor in the death.

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Zardoz

4 years ago

Reply to KidHorn

… and I’m Prince Albert.

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Carl_R

4 years ago

Reply to Blurtman

Why are people even worried about the “count”? It’s an unofficial number, for tracking progress only. The final death tolls for pandemics are never determined by counts, for obvious reasons. First, some will be counted who should not be, but also, many will be missed who died at home without ever being tested. The only data that the CDC has that is accurate is the total number of deaths. Thus, for Covid, the same thing will be done that is done every year for the flu, and has been done for every pandemic, ever, and that is to replace the counts with a number computed from excess deaths.

In an average year, about 5-7,000 people are counted as dying of the flu, and via the use of excess deaths, the number is adjusted upwards by about 600%, to about 45-75,000. The same thing will happen with Covid. They will completely throw out the counts, and replace it with a new number. Obviously the adjustment will be a lot smaller for Covid than we see every year for the flu as they are working a lot harder to “count”. The official number could be higher or lower than the “count”, but most likely will be about 20% higher. Whatever it is, it will be more accurate.

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Jojo

4 years ago

Reply to Carl_R

CDC states that 375k died in 2020 of Covid. That means that despite the lockdowns, masks, social separation, vaccine passes and the CoVax shots, the 2021 Covid death count will exceed the 2020 count. How many of the dead are the unvaxxed and how many were fully vaxxed?

That has to be embarrassing for all public health officials, politicians and the MD TV whores.

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StukiMoi

4 years ago

When dunce A wakes up, fogs a mirror and “believes” something, on Twitter even; then whatever nonsense the indoctrinati does as a response to his arbitrary twitch, must be rewarded by theft from those who instead produce something. After all, that’s what “the system” is, and “the system collapsing” is, like, a scayiii thing!! That’s what the dupes have been told, after all…..

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tbergerson

4 years ago

Reply to StukiMoi

OK. indoctrinati. I am going to borrow that word. That is awesome

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Jojo

4 years ago

VAERS Data Indicates the Covid Vaccines Have Killed At Least 140,000 People

Vasko Kohlmayer

9 Dec 2021

https://vasko.substack.com/p/vaers-data-indicates-the-covid-vaccines

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davidyjack

4 years ago

Reply to Jojo

BS.

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RonJ

4 years ago

Reply to davidyjack

Prove it is BS. The fact is we don’t know what the truth is. The vaccines have not been proven safe. They were rushed through trials and into production. Pfizer had 4 heart attack deaths in the vax group and 1 in the placebo group. Apparently, no autopsy was performed on the vax deaths, to determine whether the vax had anything to do with it.

VAERS is under reported. The question is, what is the accurate multiplier? After the Harvard Patriot VAERS study, the CDC shut down any further study of other HMO’s, for comparison tests.

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Zardoz

4 years ago

Reply to RonJ

You seem to “know “ all about it.

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RonJ

4 years ago

Reply to Zardoz

I don’t claim to know all about it, which is why i said “we don”t know what the truth is.” As we don’t know what the truth is, there shouldn’t be a rush to get everyone in the world, Covaxxed. It could be a disaster in the making, not yet realized.

“Safe and effective” is nothing more than a marketing slogan. People are denied informed consent. What are they hiding from people, if the shot truly is safe and effective? From the trials, there were known potential adverse reactions. The FDA had a slide containing a list of 20, during an October 22, 2020 presentation. When the slide came up, the presenter quickly moved past it.

Steve Kirsch’s carpet cleaner had a heart attack 2 minutes after he got the shot. Unlikely it was a coincidence. His wife also had an adverse neurological reaction after the shot.

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Zardoz

4 years ago

Reply to RonJ

“We don’t know, so I get to make up whatever sounds good to me”

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Carl_R

4 years ago

Reply to Jojo

The first two words of your post are incorrect. VAERS does not contain data. It is merely a collection of anecdotes. It is not verified, and no attempt is made to determine causation. You could file a report saying that you took the vaccine, and that you died from it, and it would become a permanent part of the data. Without any verification, or attempt to determine causation, the information in VAERS is not data, and can not be used to reach any conclusions. So, if it’s not data, what is it’s purpose? It provides a place where anecdotes can be collected. Researchers can look at that information, and decide if there is a need to design research studies to explore if there a medicine is causing certain problems.

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Jojo

4 years ago

Reply to Carl_R

Yet another of your dumb posts Carl.

The CDC is the one who created the VAERS database back in 1990 and they DO examine it for vaccine problems and trends. However, they apparently don’t share their findings with the public. Apparently , THEY DO BELIEVE IT HAS A PURPOSE or they would have done away with it. They certainly aren’t keeping it open so that anti-vaxxers can load it with fake/false entries, as you are trying to imply.

Most every other country has a similar dB. Europe’s is called EUDRS and has over double the amount of deaths.

85% of the entries in VAERS are done by medical professionals.

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Carl_R

4 years ago

Reply to Jojo

It does have a purpose. If the collection of anecdotes it represents seems to show a trend, then research projects are initiated to collect actual data. The one thing they don’t do, however, is treat it as actual data, which it is not.

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Jojo

4 years ago

Reply to Carl_R

Here is a report stating Pfizer logged their side effect vaccine problems into VAERS. Pfizer would most certainly like these entries to be considered anecdotes rather than real data of dangerous side effects that actually occurred. And the entries ARE treated as real data, just data that needs to be verified.

Carl, go back to whatever your business is. You’re in far over your ability to understand what is happening and why.

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Pfizer documents reveal variety of vaccine side effects

12 Dec, 2021

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The first tranche of documents reveal that, as of February 2021, when Pfizer’s shot was being rolled out worldwide on an emergency basis, the drugmaker had compiled more than 42,000 case reports detailing nearly 160,000 adverse reactions to the jab.

These reactions ranged from the mild to the severe, and 1,223 were fatal. The majority of these case reports involved people aged between 31 and 50 in the United States.

More than 25,000 nervous system disorders were reported, along with 17,000 musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders and 14,000 gastrointestinal disorders. A range of different autoimmune conditions were reported, along with some peculiar maladies, including 270 “spontaneous abortions,” and incidences of herpes, epilepsy, heart failure and strokes, among thousands of others.

These side effects were previously known, and have all been logged on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database, which as of Sunday has tracked 3,300 deaths following vaccination with Pfizer’s vaccine, a figure broadly in keeping with the company’s own data.

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https://www.rt.com/usa/543001-pfizer-vaccine-side-effects/

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Jojo

4 years ago

Reply to Jojo

Here’s another similar estimate from Steve Kirsch. He also references other estimates inside the paper.

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Estimating the number of COVID vaccine deaths in America

By Steve Kirsch, Jessica Rose, Mathew Crawford

Last update: November 1, 2021

Abstract: Analysis of the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database can be used to estimate the number of excess deaths caused by the COVID vaccines. A simple analysis shows that it is likely that over 150,000 Americans have been killed by the current COVID vaccines as of Aug 28, 2021.

At this point, two separate stopping conditions have been satisfied:

1. The vaccines kill more people than they save

2. The vaccines have killed over 150,000 Americans so far.

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http://www.skirsch.com/covid/Deaths.pdf

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Dr. Odyssey

4 years ago

3 shots Pfizer COVID vax 4x less effective against Omicron than Delta.

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/two-covid-vaccine-shots-does-not-protect-against-omicron-sheba-688496

From the FOIA request:

Pfizer documents reveal variety of vaccine side effects.

First tranche reveal 42,000 case reports of about 160,000 adverse events from mild to severe including 1,223 deaths in the first 3 months.

https://www.rt.com/usa/543001-pfizer-vaccine-side-effects/

Japan study- Vaccines pose 7x higher risk than the virus itself for people in their 20’s.

https://www.npojip.org/english/MedCheck/Med%20Check%20Tip-20-2021-08&12.pdf

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Jojo

4 years ago

Japan Places Warning on COVID ‘Vaccines

December 12, 2021

While many countries are either voting and threatening to make vaccines mandatory, the UK being one of them, Japan allows individuals to choose whether to be injected with the experimental gene-therapies or not and also labels the vaccines with warnings.

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https$://daily$expose.uk$/2021/12/12/$japan-places-warning-on-covid-vaccines

Tip: Remove $’s to make URL live

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Jojo

4 years ago

Japan Places Warning on COVID ‘Vaccines

December 12, 2021

While many countries are either voting and threatening to make vaccines mandatory, the UK being one of them, Japan allows individuals to choose whether to be injected with the experimental gene-therapies or not and also labels the vaccines with warnings.

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https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/12/12/japan-places-warning-on-covid-vaccines/

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Jojo

4 years ago

Japan Places Warning on COVID ‘Vaccines

By Patricia Harrity on December 12, 2021

While many countries are either voting and threatening to make vaccines mandatory, the UK being one of them, Japan allows individuals to choose whether to be injected with the experimental gene-therapies or not and also labels the vaccines with warnings.

Additives Warnings

Even the additives in the vaccines are highlighted in the vaccines available in Japan. Three Covid-19 gene-therapy treatments are currently offered, they include the Pfizer/BioNTech (Comirnaty) and Takeda’s Moderna formulation. Vaxzevria (formerly AstraZeneca) is also administered but only recommended to people 40-year-old and over.

The product descriptions of Pfizer and Moderna state that: “This product contains an additive that has never been used in a vaccine before,” and reference is also made to the new type of additive in the Vaxzevria injections and Pharmaceutical companies urge individuals to consult their doctors about the additive if they plan to be injected with it.

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http://dailyexpose.uk/2021/12/12/japan-places-warning-on-covid-vaccines/

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Doug78

4 years ago

Like the governor of Colorado did, just declare it over and get on with your lives. There will always be another variation because all viruses evolve. Omicron spreads easier but is more benign and if it matches the hospitalization rates and lethality of a bad flu season then there is no reason to keep hyperventilating into a bag. This is how pandemics end, with a whimper and not a bang.

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Jojo

4 years ago

If you know someone who may have died from a Covid vax shot, let them know there is potentially big money available from the USA as partial compensation.

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Feds Pay Zero Claims For Covid-19 Vaccine Injuries/Deaths

Adam Andrzejewski – Senior Contributor

Nov 4, 2021

Each person with a “provable” injury from a Covid vaccine could claim up to $379,000 from a special Covid vaccine fund set up by the federal government. The payout for death could be as high as $370,376.

However, according to an http://openthebooks.com investigation, the federal government didn’t pay a penny for Covid-vaccine claims. The special fund for these claims is called the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP).

There were only 1,357 claims filed that alleged “injuries/deaths from the Covid vaccines,” and 53 were listed as deaths, according to recent reporting by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

By contrast, the self-reporting Vaccine Adverse Reporting System (VAERS) lists 16,310 deaths related to Covid vaccines. Of these, “5,326 of the deaths occurred on Day 0, 1,or 2 following vaccination[.]”

The low number of applicants to the CICP fund for injuries or death from the Covid vaccine suggests that people don’t know the special fund exists.

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2021/11/04/feds-pay-zero-claims-for-covid-19-vaccine-injuriesdeaths/

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Scooot

4 years ago

Omicron is much more infectious and most of those currently contracting it are younger, so the worry is that as it spreads to more vulnerable people it puts hospitals under more pressure. The politicians are advised by scientists so you’d like to think they know more than we do. They are damned if they do and dammed if they don’t.

Quotes from the BBC’s reporting

“No one should be in any doubt, there is a tidal wave of Omicron coming,” Boris Johnson said in a TV statement on Sunday evening.

“It is now clear that two doses of vaccine are simply not enough to give the level of protection we all need. But the good news is that our scientists are confident that with a third dose, a booster dose, we can all bring our level of protection back up.”

“we already know it is so much more transmissible that a wave of Omicron through a population that was not boosted would risk a level of hospitalisation that could overwhelm our NHS and lead sadly to very many deaths.”

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RonJ

4 years ago

Reply to Scooot

“we already know it is so much more transmissible that a wave of Omicron
through a population that was not boosted would risk a level of
hospitalisation that could overwhelm our NHS and lead sadly to very many
deaths.”

Hydroxychloroquine+zinc. Ivermectin. Fluvoxamine. Budesonide. Valid treatments for Covid-19, to help prevent hospitalization and death.

It is public health agency obstruction of early treatment therapies, which has been causing most of the deaths.

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Jojo

4 years ago

Reply to Scooot

Vaccinated English adults under 60 are dying at twice the rate of unvaccinated people the same age

And have been for six months. This chart may seem unbelievable or impossible, but it’s correct, based on weekly data from the British government.

Alex Berenson

Nov 20, 2021

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/vaccinated-english-adults-under-60

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Scooot

4 years ago

Reply to Jojo

I only posted to highlight our politician’s thinking to give some insight into their likely actions. US politicians will probably be doing the same in a month or so.

I don’t know enough to comment on the chart.

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Call_Me

4 years ago

As in economics, political theatre, or personal safety – pols must be seen as doing something soas to justify their existence. There isn’t a clear and present danger brought by this particular variation, but the arm waving began shortly after the ‘discovery’ of its existence. For those keeping track of things, that is about 6 months less than the time elapsed between the start of the pandemic and global panic.

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edk38

4 years ago

Our governor in Colorado just called the end to the pandemic…smart guy…

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/colorado-governor-covid-19-emergency-over-fault-unvaccinated-sick

Also UK’s John Campbell just called it as well…see his video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2vI4XczqZ8

“Omicron variant could be a natural vaccine for the unvaccinated” – U. of Edinburgh Professor, Immunology and Infections Disease

Despite this optimistic outlook, don’t expect Big Pharma to go down without a fight

“Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said Wednesday that people might need a FOURTH Covid-19 shot sooner than expected after preliminary research shows the new omicron variant can undermine protective antibodies generated by the vaccine” – CNBC (translation: Big Pharma team, we need hit those fourth quarter numbers because those stock options aren’t going to double by themselves.)

Whatever the outcome of Omicron, it looks like a better 2022…

Stay informed, humble and safe.

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Greggg

4 years ago

Reply to edk38

This is a typical news story out of the detroit area’s leading “news” station, WDIV. Just an excerpt to capture the narrative:

“Hertel said how easily the omicron variant spreads in comparison to other forms of COVID remains to be seen.“All indicators are that it is more transmissible than the delta variant,” she said. Bagdasarian said early data indicates vaccines will continue to offer protection against omicron, especially in terms of severe disease and deaths. She said booster shots are vital to that protection”.

There are no Omicrom deaths, there has been 1 hospitalization from in Colorado but no details of course, and by now because of it’s transmissibility, there are at least hundreds of thousands of cases world wide. So why do we supposedly need a vaccine for Omicron?

The joke around here is: WDIV – All Covid, All the Time!

https://www.clickondetroit.com/health/good-health/2021/12/10/8-michigan-covid-takeaways-omicron-fourth-surge-deeply-concerning-direction/

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Zardoz

4 years ago

Reply to edk38

It’s only an emergency for the unvaxxed, and they don’t seem to care. Good call.

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RonJ

4 years ago

Reply to Zardoz

It is not an emergency, when treated early.

I read the other day that 552 vaxxed in Oregon, died of Covid-19. That number would have been greatly reduced, if they had access to early treatment by their doctor. The vaxxed are denied early treatment, just as the unvaxxed are.

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Jojo

4 years ago

Reply to edk38

I’m with your Governor on declaring a pandemic end in CO. However, reading the article, the rest of the rest of his statement is standard misinformed Dem BS about Covid.

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Casual_Observer2020

4 years ago

Worst tornado month ever for December but climate change has nothing to do with it. Sure yeah.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/how-friday-night-e2-80-99s-rare-and-deadly-december-tornado-outbreak-unfolded/ar-AARIrrM

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TexasTim65

4 years ago

Reply to Casual_Observer2020

Note that ‘worst on record’ simply refers to deaths.

If you get unlucky and a tornado hits populated area you get a lot of deaths (and property destruction). Also as the US population has relentlessly increased it becomes more and more likely that you get increased deaths and property damage.

Neither of the above 2 causes has anything to do with climate change.

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Call_Me

4 years ago

Reply to Casual_Observer2020

You’re talking about a relatively short period of record (~60 years) and during that time remote sensing has greatly improved and population has significantly increased. This isn’t a climate issue, despite the unfortunate deaths. The annual number of twisters observed hasn’t been remarkable and their intensities hasn’t increased – in fact, the U.S. hasn’t seen an EF5 for a record amount of time-

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/05/22/ef5-tornado-drought-record/

https://www.spc.noaa.gov/wcm/newimgs/torn-counts.png

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Doug78

4 years ago

Reply to Casual_Observer2020

Why do you say Climate Change? Shouldn’t you be saying Global Warming? Anyway tornado deaths have been trending down since this whatever you want to call it has been happening according to NOAA.

https://www.weather.gov/media/hazstat/80years_2020.pdf

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KidHorn

4 years ago

Reply to Doug78

Yep. Major tornado outbreaks are becoming less common in the US. Not more common. People who don’t understand science have a kneejerk reaction to blame every weather event on climate change.

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Doug78

4 years ago

Reply to KidHorn

He was just repeating what Biden said yesterday and didn’t check to see if it was true before posting.

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KidHorn

4 years ago

Reply to Doug78

Makes sense since I think he works for the CIA or State Department.

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Doug78

4 years ago

Reply to KidHorn

No. I don’t think so. He is in IT from SF area.

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Zardoz

4 years ago

Reply to KidHorn

And monkeys are flying out of your butt.

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RonJ

4 years ago

Reply to Casual_Observer2020

Climate is not static. The U.S. 1930’s were hot, then it cooled down so much that talk in the 1970’s was of another ice age . This was in spite of increasing CO2 during that time.

Tornadoes decreased in number in the recent past. It’s funny how that gets ignored. It’s funny how a year without F4 or F5 tornadoes gets ignored. Its funny how a new record 12 year period without a major hurricane hitting the U.S. gets ignored.

How come we haven’t had the worst December tornado month on record, already? Global warming alarmism has been going on for decades now. Why isn’t it an annual occurrence now, if it is due to climate change?

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Zardoz

4 years ago

Reply to Casual_Observer2020

It’s god getting testy because we allow gay marriage, obviously.

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Greggg

4 years ago

CDC classification of sars cov2 virus deaths:

No covid vaccine – UNVACCINATED.

Only one dose of a 2 dose covid vaccine – UNVACCINATED.

Two doses of a 2 dose vaccine but last dose occurred less than two weeks before hospitalization – UNVACCINATED.

Two doses of 2 dose vaccine more than 6 months before hospitalization – UNVACCINATED.

Two doses of 2 dose covid vaccine and had a booster less than two weeks before hospitalization – UNVACCINATED.

One dose of J&J vaccine more than 6 months ago or less than 2 weeks before hospitalization – UNVACCINATED.

88% of covid 19 patients hospitalized really unvaccinated?

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Jojo

4 years ago

Reply to Greggg

And yet the NY Governor was on the TV this morning yet again referring to the root of the problem as “a pandemic of the unvaccinated”.

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Casual_Observer2020

4 years ago

The truth is the non MRNA vaccines suck. This is why omicron is worse in Europe, Australia and Asia and Africa. As usual it is the United States that has led out of this crisis. If the Trump admin had no torn up the pandemic playback and left it as part of the national security council then the deaths in the US could have been avoided much more and MRNA vaccines could have come out sooner. From asking friends across other continents, life sucks in most places because the vaccines they used just weren’t as effective as the mRNA vaccines. We are lucky here in the US that most of the R&D was done for decades before the MRNA vaccines came out.

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Siliconguy

4 years ago

Reply to Casual_Observer2020

The truth is that all the vaccines suck.

This report is from a local news site, note this is the total for two months in a rural county with about 100,000 people spread over 2800 square miles. The local vaccination rate is rather low, but I don’t know the percentage. I do know two fully vaccinated people who did have delta, and they both recovered without needing the hospital.

Of the 27 deaths confirmed Wednesday, 24 had underlying health conditions, 10 were fully vaccinated, 16 were unvaccinated and one was partially vaccinated. The deaths occurred in October and November.

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Jojo

4 years ago

Reply to Siliconguy

I do know two fully vaccinated people who did have delta, and they both recovered without needing the hospital.

But thanks to the CDC only counting breakthrough infections that wind up in the hospital, your two people count for nothing at all. Without full and good data, it is impossible to accurately assess the depth of the breakthrough problem.

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Dr. Odyssey

4 years ago

Reply to Casual_Observer2020

Good grief C_O2020,

The most common vaccines being used in Europe are mRNA’s. Pfizer and Moderna.

https://www.euronews.com/next/2021/11/30/omicron-variant-likely-to-resist-covid-vaccines-warns-moderna-ceo

Facts please.

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shamrock

4 years ago

Yeah, why bother doing anything to prevent the health care systems from being overwhelmed? *$#@ them and all the extra people dying from cancer and heart disease because of delayed treatment.

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Zardoz

4 years ago

Reply to shamrock

God wanted them dead. Who are we to go against His plan?

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Jojo

4 years ago

Reply to shamrock

Hospitals should have started building more bed space last year. More and more vaxxed people are going to die from Covid, while the unvaxxed will most gain immunity and move on with their lives.

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